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[CPUd]

I'm not looking to exterminate anybody.

But I think that it has gone beyond "pre-crime".

I happen to think we are being robbed.

I would very much like to separate, peacefully.

I believe the search for peaceful solutions should be the default position, all the way up to the point where someone directly threatens my life.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I believe the search for peaceful solutions should be the default position, all the way up to the point where someone directly threatens my life.

And the "progressive left" has done just that...the more vocal ones have stated in no uncertain terms they want me, individually, and me as a demographic group, dead.

Now, granted, it's all just talk for the most part...but so is the masked mugger telling me "your money or your life".

Since I'm not a cop, just a mere Mundane, I'm not justified in shooting.

Yet.

But I am drawing...literally and figuratively.

An operative of the progressive left opened fire, in a targeted assassination attempt, on the son of the man I most respect in politics today and a sitting US Senator. (And to be clear, I have a great deal of respect for Rand as well.)

That alone is enough for me to say, war has been declared.

Now, I'm a nobody, a Mundane, and as such I don't rate 24/7 government bodyguards.

So, that leaves it up to me... as unlikely as it would be, being a nobody, if I see an unhinged leftist lunatic gunning for me or my family, I'm neutralizing the fucker or die trying.

If that's "advocating violence", well, so be it.

 

[CPUd]

And the "progressive left" has done just that...the more vocal ones have stated in no uncertain terms they want me, individually, and me as a demographic group, dead.

Now, granted, it's all just talk for the most part...but so is the masked mugger telling me "your money or your life".

Since I'm not a cop, just a mere Mundane, I'm not justified in shooting.

Yet.

But I am drawing...literally and figuratively.

An operative of the progressive left opened fire, in a targeted assassination attempt, on the son of the man I most respect in politics today and a sitting US Senator.

That alone is enough for me to say, war has been declared.

Now, I'm a nobody, a Mundane, and as such I don't rate 24/7 government bodyguards.

So, that leaves it up to me... as unlikely as it would be, being a nobody, if I see an unhinged leftist lunatic gunning for me or my family, I'm neutralizing the fucker or die trying.

If that's "advocating violence", well, so be it.

He believed he was being robbed, too.

 

[Swordsmyth]

He believed he was being robbed, too.

No he believed his agents were not robbing us enough.

 

[nikcers]

And the "progressive left" has done just that...the more vocal ones have stated in no uncertain terms they want me, individually, and me as a demographic group, dead..

Their elected officials say it all the time. What do you think the term "domestic terrorist" really means?

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

The people that brought us that peace 'movement' are the same ones that are now pushing the LGBTQRSTXYZ rights, BLM, safe spaces and 'wokeness'.

And where's your proof of that?? I'm part of the peace movement. Are you saying that describes me? Osan and I certainly have different views of what happened in the 60's. Perhaps you guys were Nixon types which would explain your hatred. I really don't know. This generalization of the movement is extremely narrow for a movement that included millions of people with no single motivator. As I stated before, Leary was perhaps the most likely "representative" of the movement and he clearly taught that you should "question authority - even mine". That means he questions the authority of the Marxists as well as the establishment...

 

[Anti Federalist]

He believed he was being robbed, too.

Yeah, well, he was wrong.

He wasn't being robbed...he was pissed that the armed government proxies were not robbing enough from me.

 

[Anti Federalist]

No he believed his agents were not robbing us enough.

Yeah, what he said.

 

[Origanalist]

And where's your proof of that?? I'm part of the peace movement. Are you saying that describes me? Osan and I certainly have different views of what happened in the 60's. Perhaps you guys were Nixon types which would explain your hatred. I really don't know. This generalization of the movement is extremely narrow for a movement that included millions of people with no single motivator. As I stated before, Leary was perhaps the most likely "representative" of the movement and he clearly taught that you should "question authority - even mine". That means he questions the authority of the Marxists as well as the establishment...

What peace movement, today's? It only matters anymore if it's your guy bombing or theirs, as long as it's the right side it's all good. (I know you don't fall in that characterization, just speaking about the general population)

None of these groups gave a shit about war when Obama was in office.

I'm referring to the 60's. I wasn't a Nixon type, I was a starry eyed youngster caught up in the 'movement'. Where do you think it gained it's momentum? By being pushed in the schools by progressives just like they are doing today. Please provide any example of Timothy Leary questioning the authority of the Marxists directly.

 

[osan]

The people that brought us that peace 'movement' are the same ones that are now pushing the LGBTQRSTXYZ rights, BLM, safe spaces and 'wokeness'.

Agreed. We may call them "globalists".

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

What peace movement, today's? It only matters anymore if it's your guy bombing or theirs, as long as it's the right side it's all good. (I know you don't fall in that characterization, just speaking about the general population)

None of these groups gave a $#@! about war when Obama was in office.

I'm referring to the 60's. I wasn't a Nixon type, I was a starry eyed youngster caught up in the 'movement'. Where do you think it gained it's momentum? By being pushed in the schools by progressives just like they are doing today. Please provide any example of Timothy Leary questioning the authority of the Marxists directly.

Don't know if such exists and is really not necessary. Look at what he taught. Look at the fact that he supported Ron Paul...

 

[AuH20]

The progressive left will wilt and die without their shadowy handlers who both finance and lead them by the nose. They aren't smart enough to chart their own course. I don't really loathe the average leftist since I view them as useful imbeciles, but I absolutely have no regard for the lives of the D.C./Davos/Deep State crowd. The world would be much better with them dead. They have forcefully injected themselves into the lives of billions and for that monumental crime, no one should shed tears for them.

 

[CPUd]

The progressive left will wilt and die without their shadowy handlers who both finance and lead them by the nose. They aren't smart enough to chart their own course. I don't really loathe the average leftist since I view them as useful imbeciles, but I absolutely have no regard for the lives of the D.C./Davos/Deep State crowd. The world would be much better with them dead. They have forcefully injected themselves into the lives of billions and for that monumental crime, no one should shed tears for them.

Then you are no better than the people you claim to hate.

 

[AuH20]

Then you are no better than the people you claim to hate.

I haven't murdered countless millions through various cruel endeavors. That's for certain. These people have charted their own course and willfully chose the path of self-adulation and exploitation. They pose a continued threat to the entire species. We have an entire class of cold blooded killers that rarely do their own dirty work.

 

[CPUd]

I haven't murdered countless millions through various cruel endeavors. That's for certain. These people have charted their own course and willfully chose the path of self-adulation and exploitation. They pose a continued threat to the entire species. We have an entire class of cold blooded killers that rarely do their own dirty work.

You don't do your own dirty work either, you promote violence in the hopes that others will do it for you.

 

[osan]

You don't do your own dirty work either, you promote violence in the hopes that others will do it for you.

Are you for real? AuH2O gave a very clear account of his points and all you have done is respond as if instead of "apples", he'd written "oranges".

What brand of trollery is this? If he writes 'A', respond to 'A' instead of 'Z', which has no connection to 'A'.

 

[osan]

And where's your proof of that?? I'm part of the peace movement. Are you saying that describes me?

Speaking only for myself, I am saying it describes the mean of the movement. It was the result. What difference does it make that you may have been off on one of the tails of the distribution? It means NOTHING. Why? Because it is the MEAN that defines what that movement is. The MEAN dictates the quality and character of the gestalt, which in turn leads to whatever outcomes are to be realized. Fliers like you are irrelevant, unless the Gaussian is so narrow that your qualities closely reflect those of the average man's. From what you have written, I deeply doubt that it was the case. I was there and I watched closely. Those people were simplistic thinkers, wholly incapable of squeezing out an original thought of their own, even if it was that they had to go take a crap. As for the smart(er) members of that movement, all I can say is that they both had no palpable effect on outcomes because the cows were running the slaughterhouse.

Osan and I certainly have different views of what happened in the 60's.

So it appears. You seem to think great things happened. I am of a very different mind on that point. About the best thing to come out of that era was the music. No sane and decent man can argue against Jimi, and if they do, I will beat them with an iron bar.

Perhaps you guys were Nixon types which would explain your hatred.

Interesting choice of words. Firstly, Nixon was a neurotic and a crook so no, I was not a fan.

Hatred? It is amusing how casually people throw that word around. In my world, if I hate you it means I want to kill you. Short of that, hatred is not in evidence. I despise the peace movement because it was a load of crap, on average.

This generalization of the movement is extremely narrow for a movement that included millions of people with no single motivator.

The generalization speaks to the mean, and as such it is dead-on accurate. The outliers mean nothing.

As I stated before, Leary was perhaps the most likely "representative" of the movement and he clearly taught that you should "question authority - even mine". That means he questions the authority of the Marxists as well as the establishment...

No he wasn't. He was an outlier at least three sigmas off the mean. It's the dumbass smack in the middle of the distribution that defines the "movement", and he is a royal nitwit; a perfect example of the "useful idiot".

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Speaking only for myself, I am saying it describes the mean of the movement. It was the result. What difference does it make that you may have been off on one of the tails of the distribution? It means NOTHING. Why? Because it is the MEAN that defines what that movement is. The MEAN dictates the quality and character of the gestalt, which in turn leads to whatever outcomes are to be realized. Fliers like you are irrelevant, unless the Gaussian is so narrow that your qualities closely reflect those of the average man's. From what you have written, I deeply doubt that it was the case. I was there and I watched closely. Those people were simplistic thinkers, wholly incapable of squeezing out an original thought of their own, even if it was that they had to go take a crap. As for the smart(er) members of that movement, all I can say is that they both had no palpable effect on outcomes because the cows were running the slaughterhouse.



So it appears. You seem to think great things happened. I am of a very different mind on that point. About the best thing to come out of that era was the music. No sane and decent man can argue against Jimi, and if they do, I will beat them with an iron bar.



Interesting choice of words. Firstly, Nixon was a neurotic and a crook so no, I was not a fan.

Hatred? It is amusing how casually people throw that word around. In my world, if I hate you it means I want to kill you. Short of that, hatred is not in evidence. I despise the peace movement because it was a load of crap, on average.



The generalization speaks to the mean, and as such it is dead-on accurate. The outliers mean nothing.




No he wasn't. He was an outlier at least three sigmas off the mean. It's the dumbass smack in the middle of the distribution that defines the "movement", and he is a royal nitwit; a perfect example of the "useful idiot".

Wow! You're so smart with your scientific jargon... I guess that means you won and I'm totally off base... Thanks for being the genius we need to set us straight!

 

[osan]

Wow! You're so smart with your scientific jargon... I guess that means you won and I'm totally off base... Thanks for being the genius we need to set us straight!

As for the jargon, I use it precisely because it describes the truth with accuracy and precision. Looking at the world and describing it in statistical terms, where appropriate, is the way one sees the truth of things and separates it from the noise. It is so very easy to be confused by noise, which is why I have dedicated some nontrivial portion of my life to discovering my methods of noiseless analysis. Confusion by noise can be demonstrated in countless billions of exchanges between human beings daily precisely because it is so common and the method of using statistical eyes can be so powerful when used properly. The statistical view doesn't apply to all situations, but those where large populations of people are in question, it oftentimes does and that is why I use it.

My purpose in engaging in these conversations is not to show how smart I am - I am not terribly smart in fact - but because I like getting to the truth of matters I think important to the quality of our lives. I like giving examples of how to see through the bullshit that flies all around us - bullshit that obscures truth and keeps the vast and overwhelming majority of the people of this world impotently chasing their tails. I choose my methods because they work and I want to share them with everyone. Just as I have been able to see what others here have done in terms of their apparent analytic methods and add them to my own, everything I do here I offer for the world to make its own, for whatever they may be worth.

Don't take anything I write here personally, because I don't offer it in the spirit of being mean.

You think the peace movement was a wonderful thing. The idea of it is - on that you and I agree as I assume we do on the value of peaceable relations between all men. We depart where the notion ends and the subsurface realities underpinning the real-world events begin.

This isn't about winning - at least not for me. It's about better understanding the world around us.

 

[Anti Federalist]

You don't do your own dirty work either, you promote violence in the hopes that others will do it for you.

And if he, or someone else did, and cleared out a particularly nasty and violent nest of street Bolsheviks, would you be here supporting that?