Breaking CNN: Gadhafi Targeted by NATO

[flightlesskiwi]

Question, Is the soldier's duty first to the Constitution, or is it to "The Commander-in-Chief" ? How many young men want to go through what Gary Manning has in being tortured?

enlisted personnel:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

officers:

I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

therein lies the rub. implicitly, it is an officer's duty to see to it that, by upholding the Constitution, he never complies with an unconstitutional order nor allows those orders to be forwarded to enlisted personnel (who owe "allegiance", if you will, to the President). thus, his duty is to defend the Constitution, not obey the president. i like to think of the implication of the difference of oath like this: the officer as a hired shepherd ensuring the best for his flock (enlisted personnel and lower-grade officers). sure, the flock is not his, but he is tasked with watching over them, even (and especially) if the owner goes bat shit crazy and starts needlessly slaughtering them.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

this is why SecDef gate's quote about the "doves" in washington being the military is a lie. if these officer (especially general officers) were actually upholding the Constitution and honoring their oath, this s*&t wouldn't be happening.

but, it's all about promotion. once you are at a certain level, if you don't drink the kool aid and play the "game", you don't get promoted. officership is VERY political. especially once you make the field grade rank.

has anyone read "war is a racket" by MajGen. Butler??? if not, it's an excellent read. military officers, lt. col and above especially, benefit very much from war. even if they don't stay in. "consultation" jobs are very lucrative. staying involved in the military-industrial complex is something that i would say most of them do even after retirement/separation. money, money, power, power.

seriously, take a peek at the thread i posted. the attitudes there will scare you more than the CIA stuff. promise.

 

[galantarie]

Lawyer Vitaly

Since the beginning of the aggression by the American empire against Libya, almost all Libyan sites of Internet media have been blocked, as happened too in the war on Iraq. Bourgeois (even Russian) media have arranged a global information blockade of Libya.

However, the Libyans still broke into the Internet, so that, for all who care, I believe it necessary to point links to the information first hand. So:

1) Site of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has moved to a Russian server and is available at http://www.algathafi.org — This is not an information site, but a collection of publications Gaddafi (including a Russian language and other language versions), showing his views on various matters.

2) http://www.mathaba.net/news/libya — site of the Libyan news agency Mathaba, now is the most important source of objective information about what is happening in Libya. Mathaba has a page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/mathaba.net
For feedback there is a Mataba forum: https://mathaba.org
E–Mail: [email protected]
and the page: http://pub.mathaba.net for publishing readers.

3) Sites of Libyan television stations were immediately frozen at the beginning of the war against Libya, but their page on Facebook works and some sites are open to new servers. TV program “the sons of Libyan” has three sites: http://www.libya-sons.com , http://www.libya-sons.tv , http://www.libyasons.com
Page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/libyasons and e-mail [email protected]
Libyan satellite channel Al-Libya TV (Allibiya TV) has a page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AllibiyaTV
Website: http://www.allibiya.com and e-mail: [email protected]

4) News Service Al-Shabab has a page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/shababiya and e-mail: [email protected]

5) The organizers of the resistance against the aggressors who attacked Libya, Mohammed Wizards (he lives in Tripoli) has a page on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=540306232

6) In these left side of these pages Facebook in the “like” section are displayed links to other Facebook pages, many of whom belong to the Libyan patriots, patriotic organizations and the media.

DISTRIBUTE THIS INFORMATION!

News taken from here: http://ja-za-kaddafi.livejournal.com/

Mathaba Note: as can be seen, from the above, a few conclusions may be drawn:

1) so long as things are on the CIA platform of Facebook they are allowed to continue: so that the CIA can spy on every comment and every visitor and also know who all their contacts and circles of friends are.

2) Libyan media are too incompetent, lazy and unprofessional to do anything other than set up a Facebook page (which anyone can do, even an 8 year old kid), and free emails such as hotmail. They don’t know how to keep servers running and secure in the face of attack.

3) Only Mathaba runs a professional service on the Internet at ALL levels except 24/7 live video broadcast, which Libya Sons TV takes care of (in Arabic).
#http://www.mathaba.net/news/libya