BREAKING: All 100 Senators called into intel meeting Re: Iran - War imminent? :/
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Bosco Warden
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I dont want war but I say lets go, lets everyone put some skin in the game then we can see who says what then. Then we see a different opinion. trust that.
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He signed on to a letter begging Obama to put tougher sanctions on Iran some time ago, so don't hold your breath.
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I would rather be locked up in prison, or flee to another country. A draft is of the most heinous violations of individual liberty, and when there is a draft, there is a mass socialization of the country, of the economy, and State power grows enormously. There is no way I will ever willfully submit myself to following their tyrannous edicts.
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Think of it this way: France invades Russia in 1812 - Talleyrand to Napoleon "Sire, what you have done is worse than a crime, you have made an error."
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I ain't draft dodging. I ain't burning no flag. I ain't running to Canada. I'm staying right here. You want to send me to jail? Fine, you go right ahead. I've been in jail for 400 years. I could be there for 4 or 5 more, but I ain't going no 10,000 miles to help murder and kill other poor people. If I want to die, I'll die right here, right now, fightin' you, if I want to die. You my enemy, not no Chinese, no Vietcong, no Japanese. You my opposer when I want freedom. You my opposer when I want justice. You my opposer when I want equality. Want me to go somewhere and fight for you? You won't even stand up for me right here in America, for my rights and my religious beliefs. You won't even stand up for my right here at home.~Ali film quote
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Preface: This "plot" is likely a smoke screen of some sort, and I really do not support starting another war over this.
They were plotting to blow up a Washington D.C. restaurant to affect the assassination of the Saudi Diplomat. That would have been an act of war.
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Certainly not when other countries loan us the money to fund our wars, other countries build the arsenal of our military for us to fight our wars, and we will not create a single job from yet another war, save the lives of the people who fight the wars are playing russian roulette and someone else is holding the gun.
Nothing good will come from yet another war with another country that has had it with our bullshit.
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Interesting times, for sure. SCOTUS rulings a year ago only apply today when the judges want it to. There could be massive protests against a draft, but at least the Boston mayor "won't tolerate civil disobedience." Will the government again jail anti-draft activists? An online post is the equivalent to indiscriminately handing out pamphlets... Will they continue their history of claiming an IP address is a positive ID? Will they jail everyone who posts anti-draft communications? Will the gov't continue their history of holding site-owners liable for users' posts, proceeding to shut down sites based on content not hosted on their servers?
There are so many implications of instating a draft than infringing on folks' rights who don't successfully evade. The USG has a history of effectively ignoring all Constitutional protections during war-time. It could lead to much more ambitious USG censorship of the Internet, the last mostly-free media around. Other side of the coin - this leads to many new innovations to subvert the USG. Online black markets, easier-to-use (and more secure) encrypted communications, p2p DNS, and perhaps even creating our own Internets by connecting Intranets. Community Internets... how awesome would that be? No connection to gov't-controlled international Internet where ISPs regularly give out user info based on weak suspicions by LEOs, so the FBI operatives in HQs could never work out what we're doing or planning. We could go so much further in ignoring gov't mandates with such communication methods, and if the technology is as solid as the 20-year-old PGP encryption scheme, irreversible in how they empower individuals. Can you imagine a revolution where rebel forces claim territory by connecting a copper or fiber line from their previously-secured territory to the new territory's "Community Internet," thus liberating the people from gov't media, encouraging loyalists to defect and providing crucial communication on how to defend against gov't technology?
Uhhh... no, but a draft would be awful... for most people. Gives me an idea for a video game, though....
There are so many implications of instating a draft than infringing on folks' rights who don't successfully evade. The USG has a history of effectively ignoring all Constitutional protections during war-time. It could lead to much more ambitious USG censorship of the Internet, the last mostly-free media around. Other side of the coin - this leads to many new innovations to subvert the USG. Online black markets, easier-to-use (and more secure) encrypted communications, p2p DNS, and perhaps even creating our own Internets by connecting Intranets. Community Internets... how awesome would that be? No connection to gov't-controlled international Internet where ISPs regularly give out user info based on weak suspicions by LEOs, so the FBI operatives in HQs could never work out what we're doing or planning. We could go so much further in ignoring gov't mandates with such communication methods, and if the technology is as solid as the 20-year-old PGP encryption scheme, irreversible in how they empower individuals. Can you imagine a revolution where rebel forces claim territory by connecting a copper or fiber line from their previously-secured territory to the new territory's "Community Internet," thus liberating the people from gov't media, encouraging loyalists to defect and providing crucial communication on how to defend against gov't technology?
Uhhh... no, but a draft would be awful... for most people. Gives me an idea for a video game, though....
Think like a Keynesian politician. There are reasons why Obama would want both a war and high oil prices.
1. Obama's approval ratings have been equal to or below his disapproval ratings for the last four months. Last month a McClatchy poll put him at 39 approve/52 disapprove. Obama has an election in a little more than a year. What happens to a President's approval rating when a country first goes to war? The Bush's both had approval ratings around 90% at one point.
2. High oil prices are strongly desired by a large segment of Obama supporters - the radical environmentalists - because they believe that is the only way the country will be motivated to switch to an alternative energy based economy and more sustainable communities. As a 2008 article from Scientific American said "In the 1970s Americans responded to high oil prices with alternative energy projects and more fuel-efficient cars. But when prices dropped in the 1980s, we threw caution to the wind—along with the energy projects. We purchased ever larger cars and SUVs and moved to ever more distant suburbs... Two years of lower prices can turn hybrid cars into a bad financial proposition for consumers, and green technology start-up companies could go bankrupt as demand for their goods dries up. Even a temporary decrease in petroleum prices would undermine the long-term development of the alternatives we all know we need."
3. Keynesians believe war stimulates the economy. Says Paul Krugman in 2008 "I’d say that the sources of the economy’s expansion from 2003 to 2007 were, in order, the housing bubble, the war, and — very much in third place — tax cuts." They've tried inflating a bubble and it hasn't worked. They may be trying to kick start the economy with a war.
Obama would have to start a war early enough that it wouldn't look like he was doing it for election purposes and to give the war economy and alternative energy investment initiatives time to kick in, but late enough that he still had the war bump come election time.
But there will be no draft. The backlash would hurt Obama's election chances.
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Why? because President Obama is against the wall. THE PLAN NWO is falling apart quickly. The gig is up and he is determined not to stop. He needs to be ordered to cease and desist.
Draft would be called National Service Jobs Act, and would be passed by a Republican neo-con house. It would provide free college, and replace student loans. House co-sponsors will be Rangel and McKeon; Senate McCain, Lieberman, Schummer, and Graham
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any further update on this session?
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why do they let collins' sockpuppets spam so much?
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