Boehner: Republicans must be "adults" about raising debt ceiling.

[Agorism]

Boehner: Republicans must be "adults" about raising debt ceiling.


Boehner Warns GOP on Debt Ceiling
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Washington Wire
November 18, 2010, 7:39 PM ET
By Naftali Bendavid

Raising the debt ceiling is shaping up as a difficult early vote for the new House GOP majority. Many of the new Republican lawmakers harshly criticized their Democratic opponents during the campaign for voting to raise the limit in the past, citing it as an example of the Democrats’ recklessness with federal tax dollars.

But on Thursday, Minority Leader John Boehner (R., Ohio) said he’s been talking to the newly elected GOP lawmakers about the need to raise the federal debt ceiling when it comes up early next year.

“I’ve made it pretty clear to them that as we get into next year, it’s pretty clear that Congress is going to have to deal with this,” Mr. Boehner, who is slated to become House speaker in January, told reporters.

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[RileyE104]

All I can say is FUCK this guy..
Is that 'adult' enough for his hypocritical ass?

 

[Yieu]

“I’ve made it pretty clear to them that as we get into next year, it’s pretty clear that Congress is going to have to deal with this,” Mr. Boehner, who is slated to become House speaker in January, told reporters.

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Yes, it is pretty clear that if they can't get the ceiling raised, they're going to have to deal with it and find out where to make some cuts.

What happened to Rand's "adult conversation" about not raising it?

 

[hamilton1049]

The 1994 replay begins now.

 

[Stary Hickory]

DO you expect them to balance the budget in two months? Just curious? If you want to see a hypocrite look at yourselves.

Do you honestly think Ron Paul would balance the budget in two months? It kind of gets ridiculous around here, think about it. I am all for a balanced budget....but it is not going to happen in two months..with two wars going on, and at the very least a costly withdrawal would be necessary.

Just going leave the troops over in Iraq and Iran to die? Things cannot simply be dropped all at once so quickly.

 

[Southron]

I'm not sure what benefit, if any, will be gained by raising the ceiling. If the Republicans don't at least pretend they are acting differently, they will just get thrown out next election.

I don't think the voters have enough patience to wait for more Republicans to get elected before they take action.

 

[hamilton1049]

DO you expect them to balance the budget in two months? Just curious? If you want to see a hypocrite look at yourselves.

Do you honestly think Ron Paul would balance the budget in two months? It kind of gets ridiculous around here, think about it. I am all for a balanced budget....but it is not going to happen in two months..with two wars going on, and at the very least a costly withdrawal would be necessary.

Just going leave the troops over in Iraq and Iran to die? Things cannot simply be dropped all at once so quickly.

Nope, don't even expect it to be fixed in 2 yr.s but with this rhetoric we won't have 2 yr.s.

The American people have a very large, very ugly, and bitter pill to swallow, and not very many of them are going to swallow it voluntarily. In 2 yr.s they won't even have to bother pretending any more.

 

[Cowlesy]

I'd almost be willing to give them a pass on this one as they'll be in office for less than thirty days, but the thing is, in six-eight months when they bump up against the limit again, then what is the deal?

They need to have a come to Jesus moment real soon or in two years we're going to elect more leftists as the herd moves back in the other direction.

 

[moostraks]

This will be so they can make sure to have the wiggle room to be able to protect the lobbyists while screwing their constituents. Yes everyone needs to be adults and realize that the GOP has their own long list of needs.

 

[V for Voluntary]

"One of the most curious, and least edifying, sights in the Reagan era was to see the Reaganites completely change their tune of a lifetime. At the very beginning of the Reagan administration, the conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives, convinced that deficits would disappear immediately, received a terrific shock when they were asked by the Reagan administration to vote for the usual annual increase in the statutory debt limit. These Republicans, some literally with tears in their eyes, protested that never in their lives had they voted for an increase in the national debt limit, but they were doing it just this one time because they "trusted Ronald Reagan" to balance the budget from then on. The rest, alas, is history, and the conservative Republicans never saw fit to cry again. Instead, they found themselves adjusting rather easily to the new era of huge permanent deficits. The Gramm-Rudman law, allegedly designed to eradicate deficits in a few years, has now unsurprisingly bogged down in enduring confusion."

http://mises.org/daily/1544

 

[awake]

Like an adolescent with his parents credit card..." the credit card is full, can I have more?", "I promise this is the last time that I will drink and party it all away... I have changed "

 

[QueenB4Liberty]

Like an adolescent with his parents credit card..." the credit card is full, can I have more?", "I promise this is the last time that I will drink and party it all away... I have changed "

Yes. It's sick.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

NO MORE DEBT... we must hold the line.. if congress has no money then they need to work without a salary... cut the budget and from there find the money to pay themselves..

not one more stinking federal reserve note


HOLD THE LINE

 

[osan]

All I can say is FUCK this guy..
Is that 'adult' enough for his hypocritical ass?

+1

Traitorous, treacherous, two-faced, pragmatist bastards.

 

[LibertyEagle]

DO you expect them to balance the budget in two months? Just curious? If you want to see a hypocrite look at yourselves.

Do you honestly think Ron Paul would balance the budget in two months? It kind of gets ridiculous around here, think about it. I am all for a balanced budget....but it is not going to happen in two months..with two wars going on, and at the very least a costly withdrawal would be necessary.

Just going leave the troops over in Iraq and Iran to die? Things cannot simply be dropped all at once so quickly.

Stary, are you sure there is not already quite a bit of money in the pipeline for the troops? Remember when Dr. Paul voted against new spending bills for the war? Do you remember what he said? Maybe we should check to see what the situation is right now before we so eagerly agree to raise the debt ceiling.

I think it's way past time to hold the line.

No new debt.

 

[speciallyblend]

my prediction, the gop is screwed!! I hope delegates get with the program asap!!

If I get it but these republicans do not? Then our country is already F'ed!!!


I need to start researching my costs to move to costa rica!!

 

[osan]

DO you expect them to balance the budget in two months? Just curious? If you want to see a hypocrite look at yourselves.

Talk about nonsequiturs - first of all, who said anything about balancing the budget in two months? That aside, what does it have to do with the issue of the debt ceiling?

...with two wars going on, and at the very least a costly withdrawal would be necessary.

Hello? Costly withdrawal? It is the war that is costly, in both $ terms, lost national security, the thousands of American lives lost, the tens of thousands of American lives destroyed through maiming, divorce, orphanage of children, bereavement of friends and family, and the murder (that's right murder) of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians.

Costly withdrawal - where the hell do people get such ideas?

Just going leave the troops over in Iraq and Iran to die?

Iran? We have troops in Iran? When did this happen?

Things cannot simply be dropped all at once so quickly.

Actually, they pretty much can. Put me in charge and in six weeks or less I will have every scrap of humanity and materiel out of Eye-Rack and Afghanistan.

I don't know what it is you are smoking, but you should be in a more sharing mood.

 

[silverhandorder]

Talk about nonsequiturs - first of all, who said anything about balancing the budget in two months? That aside, what does it have to do with the issue of the debt ceiling?



Hello? Costly withdrawal? It is the war that is costly, in both $ terms, lost national security, the thousands of American lives lost, the tens of thousands of American lives destroyed through maiming, divorce, orphanage of children, bereavement of friends and family, and the murder (that's right murder) of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians.

Costly withdrawal - where the hell do people get such ideas?



Iran? We have troops in Iran? When did this happen?




Actually, they pretty much can. Put me in charge and in six weeks or less I will have every scrap of humanity and materiel out of Eye-Rack and Afghanistan.

I don't know what it is you are smoking, but you should be in a more sharing mood.

QFT

I am sick and tired of excuses. If there was any time for rpg to flex our muscle this would be the time. We need to try and put them through he'll who knows we might win.

 

[osan]

my prediction, the gop is screwed!! I hope delegates get with the program asap!!

This is what I have been saying for what, the past year almost? We will see the SOS as when GW took over, when Reagan took over, Clinton... it's all bullshit.

The question this raises should be troubling to everyone here. These people are not stupid, all popularity of asserting the contrary notwithstanding. Therefore, the apparent stupidity of pulling the same shit over and over again, ever increasing the risk that we will finally put a stop to it all, must be compensated for by some other factor. There must be a good reason why these guys are risking mass revolt, possibly very violent revolt. It could be hubris at work, but I am not yet convinced this is so. But what else, then? Could the leadership know something the rest of us do not? Something waiting in the wings such that this whole circus is just a play for time; something that, when rolled into action, will leave us all hog-tied and unable to do anything about it? Or could violent revolt perhaps be what they are looking for? If people get violent, say, in the large cities then what might be awaiting us in response?

What "they" are doing makes precious little sense from the standpoint of political (and possibly even physical) self preservation, so why are they doing it?

 

[speciallyblend]

This is what I have been saying for what, the past year almost? We will see the SOS as when GW took over, when Reagan took over, Clinton... it's all bullshit.

The question this raises should be troubling to everyone here. These people are not stupid, all popularity of asserting the contrary notwithstanding. Therefore, the apparent stupidity of pulling the same shit over and over again, ever increasing the risk that we will finally put a stop to it all, must be compensated for by some other factor. There must be a good reason why these guys are risking mass revolt, possibly very violent revolt. It could be hubris at work, but I am not yet convinced this is so. But what else, then? Could the leadership know something the rest of us do not? Something waiting in the wings such that this whole circus is just a play for time; something that, when rolled into action, will leave us all hog-tied and unable to do anything about it? Or could violent revolt perhaps be what they are looking for? If people get violent, say, in the large cities then what might be awaiting us in response?

What "they" are doing makes precious little sense from the standpoint of political (and possibly even physical) self preservation, so why are they doing it?

i hear ya, I will still do my duty as a Ron Paul delegate but i feel we are already past the point of repair!! I am strongly considering moving out of the country after my 1yr lease is up!!