Boehner: Cruz is 'Lucifer in the flesh'

With the revelations about Speaker Hastert, now we know why Boehner cries so often...

Boehner attended a Jesuit school, somebody got to him long before he ever met Hastert in congress. :p

With regards to the words of the "illustrious" ex-speaker with regard to Ted Cruz, I don't think that he has the competency to be running things south of heaven, but I will concede him the miserable S.O.B. part, his being a drunken, vindictive, cry baby, petty tyrant naturally not withstanding.
 
Boehner expressing his envy

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The ten billion are from government documents with criminal penalties for lying on. The government can easily cross reference those figures with his income tax statements which are continuously monitored. If you think Trump has lied and money is just some illusion that grows on trees - you ought to contact the government with your proof :rolleyes:

Edit: Here's the filing - all 92 pages of it. Go to it.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2171250-donald-trump-financial-disclosure.html

lol are you being serious right now? Honestly, I can't tell.

There is a very good chance that this dude might not even be a billionaire.

Even if you believe everything on this disclosure, it would put his net worth at only $1.35bn.

Yea yea, I know. Trump's claim is that the report wasn't designed for a man of his "immense wealth". Give me a break.

Show me one reputable financial reporting organization that thinks this disclosure has proven The Donald is worth $10 billion.

Forbes said:
“We reviewed Mr. Trump’s latest filing with the FEC and find no basis to revise our estimate of his net worth at this time. We’re in the process of updating our valuations for our annual Forbes 400 list,” the magazine said in a statement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/donald-trump-financial-disclosure-120472

cnbc said:
Like almost everything associated with billionaire real estate tycoon and Olympic-level narcissist Donald Trump, the financial disclosure form he filed with the federal government this week in support of his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination was large, hard to believe, and self-referential to the point of parody.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/24/7-revelations-from-donald-trumps-financial-disclosure.html

Please tell me, why won't Trump release his tax returns? He wouldn't even release them to help him win a libel lawsuit that was based on how wealthy he was. I'll tell you why. His image is based entirely on his "wealth", of which he does not have nearly what he claims.
 
This seems to be uniting the conservatives behind Cruz

 
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lol are you being serious right now? Honestly, I can't tell.

Anyone can say anything they want and make up anything they whim.

However, reality doesn't work that way, it is the way it is no matter what you want to think it is. Rational men use facts to decide what they think. Irrational men uses grunts, fantasy, and think their feelings and what they can convince others matters.

If you have stunning research that somehow has beaten all the experts and government employees that Donald Trump's filings are wrong - then Trump has violated the law. And you can complain if you have valid proof that has escaped everyone else.

Here is how to initiate the complaint process. You'll need a lot more proof then you have offered here - and a notarized signature.

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/complain.shtml
I. Filing a Complaint
Any person may file a complaint if he or she believes a violation of the Federal Election Campaign Laws or Commission regulations has occurred or is about to occur. The complaint must be made in writing and sent to the Office of General Counsel, Federal Election Commission, 999 E Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20463. The original must be submitted along with three copies, if possible. Facsimile or e-mail transmissions are not acceptable. A complaint must comply with certain requirements. It must:
Provide the full name and address of the person filing the complaint (called the complainant); and
Be signed, sworn to and notarized. This means that the notary public's certificate must say "...signed and sworn to before me...," or words that connote the complaint was affirmed by the complainant, (such as “under penalty of perjury”).
Furthermore, in order for a complaint to be considered complete and proper, it should:
Clearly recite the facts that show specific violations under the Commission's jurisdiction (citations to the law and regulations are not necessary);
Clearly identify each person, committee or group that is alleged to have committed a violation (called the respondent);
Include any documentation supporting the allegations, if available; and
Differentiate between statements based on the complainant's (the person who files the complaint) personal knowledge and those based on information and belief. Statements not based on personal knowledge should identify the source of the information.
For self-reported complaints (called "sua sponte" submissions), the submission should include an admission of the violation(s), a complete recitation of the facts along with all relevant documentation that explains how the violation was discovered, the internal actions that were taken in response to the violation and what other agencies, if any, are investigating the violation (or facts surrounding the violation).
The Commission seeks to increase the number of self-reported submissions in order to expedite enforcement of the law. To encourage self-reporting, the Commission will generally negotiate penalties between 25 and 75 percent lower than those for matters arising by other means, such as through complaints or the Commission’s own review of reports. In certain circumstances, the Commission may allow committees who voluntarily report their violations and make a complete report of their internal investigation to proceed directly into conciliation before the Commission makes a finding as to whether there is reason to believe the committee violated campaign finance laws or Commission regulations.3

Please post what you file and what the FEC's reply is.
 
Anyone can say anything they want and make up anything they whim.

However, reality doesn't work that way, it is the way it is no matter what you want to think it is. Rational men use facts to decide what they think. Irrational men uses grunts, fantasy, and think their feelings and what they can convince others matters.

If you have stunning research that somehow has beaten all the experts and government employees that Donald Trump's filings are wrong - then Trump has violated the law. And you can complain if you have valid proof that has escaped everyone else.

Here is how to initiate the complaint process. You'll need a lot more proof then you have offered here - and a notarized signature.

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/complain.shtml


Please post what you file and what the FEC's reply is.

SpiritOf1776_J4 bravely continues posting numbers when every major news analyst at every major news site disagrees.

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See what I did there?

All you have to do is a simple google search and read pretty much any article by any respectable financial news outlet. No one on this planet seriously believes that Trump is worth 10 bn but Trump. The very documents that you cite don't even show this. Who is the one here using facts and who is the one using fantasy?

Please, tell me what you know that CNBC, Forbes, Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, The NY Times, and Fox Business do not know.
 
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SpiritOf1776_J4 bravely continues posting numbers when every major news analyst at every major news site disagrees.


Please, tell me what you know [some not all] media know

You don't seem to know that Trump has to comply with laws when he files statements - he's legally liable. Media outlets can report any opinion they want.

Here's the FEC site again if you really have any solid facts that Trump filed a false statement in his 95 page disclosure:
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/complain.shtml

No one on this planet seriously believes that Trump is worth 10 bn

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/donald-trumps-personal-wealth
Last week Trump announced he had filed the details of his personal finances, as all presidential candidates must, and was worth "in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS" (his emphasis). On Wednesday, his financial disclosure form was released by the Federal Election Commission, and it backs up his bluster. It also tells the complicated—and entertaining—story of Trump's financial life.

If you keep repeating things that are wrong when shown facts to the contrary, you just look bad.
 
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You don't seem to know that Trump has to comply with laws when he files statements - he's legally liable. Media outlets can report any opinion they want.

Here's the FEC site again if you really have any solid facts that Trump filed a false statement in his 95 page disclosure:
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/complain.shtml





If you keep repeating things that are wrong when shown facts to the contrary, you just look bad.

Trump values his brand at $3.3 billion. Besides that number being insanely high and based on nothing, who puts their brand as part of their net worth? Trump is saying he has a net worth in the ballpark of the market cap of major companies. He doesn't though and the reason people don't grasp this is because they are financially illiterate. Green Mountain Coffee has a market cap of $13 billion. That is a major company. Chipotle is valued at $12 billion. Trump is saying he is worth almost what Chipotle is worth. Use some commonsense.

I am not one of these people who rags on Trump as a businessman,. Trump is nowhere near as successful as Mitt Romney. It isn't even close. He has only has more money because he inherited money but by using actual business success Mitt Romney is far more accomplished.

Steve Jobs was worth $10 billion when he died and he founded and was the CEO of the largest company in the S&P 500. Donald Trump is probably worth about $2 billion which is what Bloomberg puts it at. And he is worth that because he was able to buy Manhattan real estate and leverage it as it appreciated because his father helped him get loans.
 
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Trump on Price of Bel Air - 1994


Prince song based off Donald Trump (Black Version) - 1990


I'm just pointing out that Trump has been known to be rich for a very long time in the public eye. Some of the posters have no conception that Trump has been the same way in the news because it was before they were even born.
 
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Trump values his brand at $3.3 billion. Besides that number being insanely high and based on nothing, who puts their brand as part of their net worth? Trump is saying he has a net worth in the ballpark of the market cap of major companies. He doesn't though and the reason people don't grasp this is because they are financially illiterate. Green Mountain Coffee has a market cap of $13 billion. That is a major company. Chipotle is valued at $12 billion. Trump is saying he is worth almost what Chipotle is worth. Use some commonsense.

I am not one of these people who rags on Trump as a businessman,. Trump is nowhere near as successful as Mitt Romney. It isn't even close. He has only has more money because he inherited money but by using actual business success Mitt Romney is far more accomplished.

Steve Jobs was worth $10 billion when he died and he founded and was the CEO of the largest company in the S&P 500. Donald Trump is probably worth about $2 billion which is what Bloomberg puts it at. And he is worth that because he was able to buy Manhattan real estate and leverage it as it appreciated because his father helped him get loans.

In b4 Trump sues you for defamation.
 
I'm just pointing out that Trump has been known to be rich for a very long time in the public eye. Some of the posters have no conception that Trump has been the same way in the news because it was before they were even born.

I'm not arguing that Trump isn't rich. He's certainly a very wealthy man.

He's just not $10B wealthy. Not even remotely close. That's just a fact.
 
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