Bob Barr Sues Texas

[constituent]

It is not a frivolous lawsuit. There are state election laws in place. Either there are laws, or there are not. Laws either must be followed by everybody, or anybody can break them without repercussion.

Well, naturally all actions have repercussions.

That said, i think this continued lawlessness seen at all levels of government will do more to wake people up to the true nature of government than any number of well-thought out essays and eloquent speakers.

A good thing, imo.

I commend Barr for making this stance to uphold the law.

Yea me too. And when the state of Texas proudly displays that middle-finger, I think it will make for an epic showdown between our republic and America's.

One of the first of many to come (and not just in Texas), of that I'm quite certain.

The lawmakers in Texas may be no better than those in D.C. (in fact, i'm quite certain that they aren't), but if we can peel back government's outer shell that'll be an excellent start.

 

[Knightskye]

The only thing that bothers me about barr is that he tends to try and solve every issue with a lawsuit.

That's the only way to solve this one.

Other than that, give some examples please. I'm not complaining that a third party's trying to play by the rules.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Uh, guys....

http://www.kxan.com/global/story.asp?s=9023493

 

[RickyJ]

http://www.kxan.com/global/story.asp?s=9023493

Bob Barr even sued a church in California because they didn't invite him. Talk about frivolous lawsuits! The guy sounds kind of psycho to me with the way he dissed Ron Paul at the last minute then claimed he never said he was going and suing everybody over virtually nothing. He is making the libertarian party look really bad by choosing him to be their nominee.

 

[Minuteman]

No, it would be the denying the people of Texas a complete choice of who they want to be President. I don't want McCain or Obama to win but I don't want to deny sheeple that want to vote for one of them that opportunity on a technicality. And that is all this is, a meaningless technicality. Bob Barr should be ashamed of himself, but considering the way he treated Ron Paul I doubt he ever feels shame. He has really showed himself to be just yet another slimy lying politician.

So, do you believe Barr should have been kept off the ballet in WV I believe it was? Or, are you a hypocrit? Shouldnt the same laws be applied across the board?

 

[kathy88]

No, it would be the denying the people of Texas a complete choice of who they want to be President. I don't want McCain or Obama to win but I don't want to deny sheeple that want to vote for one of them that opportunity on a technicality. And that is all this is, a meaningless technicality. Bob Barr should be ashamed of himself, but considering the way he treated Ron Paul I doubt he ever feels shame. He has really showed himself to be just yet another slimy lying politician.

I have to disagree. If it was RP that filed late you bet your ass he wouldn't get on the ballot.

 

[RickyJ]

I have to disagree. If it was RP that filed late you bet your ass he wouldn't get on the ballot.

If RP was the nominee of the Republican party then yes, he would have got on the ballot too despite the fact that he couldn't have filed until after the convention. The Republicans and Democrats have extensions for filing for this very reason. Nothing illegal took place here and Bob Barr of all people knows it. He is just trying to get his name in the press anyway he can.

 

[Razorback Fan]

I don't understand why so many people are using this to denegrate Bob Barr. Whether you like the man or not, you've got to admire, grudgingly if necessary, anyone who stands up to the hyposcrisy of the two-party system. This lawsuit is not going to make Bob Barr the next President, and he knows that as well as we all do. But it might, just might, make it easier for someone other, future candidate from outside the establishment to make it.

So what's the point of all this "Bob Barr is slimy," "Bob Barr is just trying to get his name in the press?" Of course he's trying to get his name in the press, and it's going to help Ron Paul and everyone like him in future elections. So for God's sake, come off it.

 

[Knightskye]

Bob Barr even sued a church in California because they didn't invite him. Talk about frivolous lawsuits!

A debate. No debates = Bob Barr at 5% in the polls.

suing everybody over virtually nothing. He is making the libertarian party look really bad by choosing him to be their nominee.

They broke the rules and he's taking them to court. That's how things are supposed to work. It's making the Libertarian Party look like they chose someone who cares about accountability. Bug off.

 

[georgiaboy]

kick their Texas asses, Bob!

 

[LibertiORDeth]

I talked to the campaign yesterday. They said lawyers did try to talk to Texas but Texas would not respond. A lawsuit is the only way to go seeing as there is not much time left before absentee ballots are printed. If Barr wins we might get to see an election settled by the House of Representatives.

I don't see how, even if he polls at 10% nationally (a very liberal estimate) with Texas he can't win...

 

[The Lantern]

I don't see how, even if he polls at 10% nationally (a very liberal estimate) with Texas he can't win...

If Bob Barr wins his lawsuit, the Republicans and Democrats will be denied 34 electoral votes. If the election is as close as it has been in previous years, neither party will have 270 votes to win. The election would be settled by the House.

 

[qh4dotcom]

Here's another article about it

http://norris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/disenfranchise-texas

Since Obama is unlikely to win Texas, it should be to his advantage for the law to be enforced even if his name is removed from the ballot...because McCain would lose the Texas 34 electoral votes and McCain would be unlikely to get the 270 electoral votes needed to win the election.

 

[BeFranklin]

I talked to the campaign yesterday. They said lawyers did try to talk to Texas but Texas would not respond. A lawsuit is the only way to go seeing as there is not much time left before absentee ballots are printed. If Barr wins we might get to see an election settled by the House of Representatives.

That would be significant. Texas is large. If neither party can get votes from Texas, it is more likely to be thrown to the house.

As the credit crisis depends, the idea that the "political parties" are too large for the rules (like banks are too large to fail) will fall by the way side.

This isn't just a valid lawsuit on a real legal issue, but it has political validity. People are going to get increasingly angry as they realize what has happened. Texas will have a reason to throw the parties that caused it off the ballot.

 

[BeFranklin]

FYI: Bob isn't the only one that can file a lawsuit on this issue, and I think its too important to put in the hands of one man.

A bunch of groups can separately sue and join forces later.

 

[georgiaboy]

I wonder if any Texas Congressfolk would be willing to bolster this effort alongside the Barr campaign? Anyone?

 

[kirkblitz]

270 votes is only needed in a TWO way race.

 

[pacelli]

This is the kind of stuff third parties should be fighting for. Not agreeing on some vague Four Points that each person interprets differently.

Maybe if Bob showed up, he could have used some of his speaking time to promote the fight. I still haven't seen a video of his post-RP press conference.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I'd love to see the law upheld, but for some reason I doubt that it will.

 

[georgiaboy]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=156055