Bob Barr Sues Texas

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Bob Barr Files Suit in Texas to Remove McCain, Obama from Ballot

Suit alleges that McCain, Obama knowingly missed filing deadlines

Atlanta, GA - Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party's nominee for president, has filed a lawsuit in Texas demanding Senators John McCain and Barack Obama be removed from the ballot after they missed the official filing deadline.

"The seriousness of this issue is self-evident," the lawsuit states. "The hubris of the major parties has risen to such a level that they do not believe that the election laws of the State of Texas apply to them."

Texas election code §192.031 requires that the "written certification" of the "party's nominees" be delivered "before 5 p.m. of the 70th day before election day." Because neither candidate had been nominated by the official filing deadline, the Barr campaign argues it was impossible for the candidates to file under state law.

"Supreme Court justices should recognize that their responsibility is to apply the law as passed by the Legislature, and the law is clear that the candidates cannot be certified on the ballot if their filings are late," says Drew Shirley, a local attorney for the Barr campaign, who is also a Libertarian candidate for the Texas Supreme Court.

A 2006 Texas Supreme Court decision ruled that state laws "does not allow political parties or candidates to ignore statutory deadlines."

Orrin Grover, attorney for Bob Barr and Wayne Root, said that he believes that the Texas Secretary of State is bound by Texas law to remove the Republican and Democratic nominees from the November ballot. "Either we have rules and deadlines, or we do not," Grover said.

The Chairman of the Texas Libertarian Party, Pat Dixon stated, "Libertarian principles require personal responsibility for your acts and failures. Obama and McCain failed to meet the deadlines. They must follow the law like everyone else."

The petition also alleges that the Democratic Party's late presidential filing falsely claimed under oath that Senator Obama had been nominated hours before the nomination actually occurred.

"The facts of the case are not in dispute," says Russell Verney, manager of the Barr campaign. "Republicans and Democrats missed the deadline, but were still allowed on the ballot. Third parties are not allowed on the ballot for missing deadlines, as was the case for our campaign in West Virginia, yet the Texas secretary of state's office believes Republicans and Democrats to be above the law."

Barr will be holding a press conference this Thursday at the Texas Supreme Court at 11:00 a.m.

Libertarian Party presidential candidate Bob Barr represented the 7th District of Georgia in the U. S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003.
 
The only thing that bothers me about barr is that he tends to try and solve every issue with a lawsuit. Not saying it isn't a good idea BUT he tends to jump straight to it, or it is just me?
 
I just read this piece in my e-mail. Wouldn't it be sweet if it worked?
 
The only thing that bothers me about barr is that he tends to try and solve every issue with a lawsuit. Not saying it isn't a good idea BUT he tends to jump straight to it, or it is just me?

I talked to the campaign yesterday. They said lawyers did try to talk to Texas but Texas would not respond. A lawsuit is the only way to go seeing as there is not much time left before absentee ballots are printed. If Barr wins we might get to see an election settled by the House of Representatives.
 
I talked to the campaign yesterday. They said lawyers did try to talk to Texas but Texas would not respond. A lawsuit is the only way to go seeing as there is not much time left before absentee ballots are printed. If Barr wins we might get to see an election settled by the House of Representatives.

I doubt they will even judge on the case until AFTER the elections.
 
I talked to the campaign yesterday. They said lawyers did try to talk to Texas but Texas would not respond. A lawsuit is the only way to go seeing as there is not much time left before absentee ballots are printed. If Barr wins we might get to see an election settled by the House of Representatives.

i very much doubt that they will respond to a lawsuit either.
 
I hope he wins. Lawsuits are good for certain things like this and help show the hypocrisy of the election laws and practices in this country.
 
Bob Barr WINS LAWSUIT!!!


After the Presidential Election... that's how the Dictatorship of Socialists and Fascists work.
 
he wont win, this issue came up about 10 years ago and texas allowed them on the ballot because big partys are allowed mistakes or somethen like that? It was odd.
 
This is the kind of stuff third parties should be fighting for. Not agreeing on some vague Four Points that each person interprets differently.
 
This is the kind of stuff third parties should be fighting for. Not agreeing on some vague Four Points that each person interprets differently.

I wonder which of the four "points" Barr has such a problem with.

my guess, the federal reserve and non-intervention.
 
"The seriousness of this issue is self-evident," the lawsuit states.

Bob Barr has no time for a proper investigation of 9/11 but he has time for frivolous suits like this one calling it serious. Bob Barr won't change anything, he is just another puppet of the elite.
 
I just read this piece in my e-mail. Wouldn't it be sweet if it worked?


No, it would be the denying the people of Texas a complete choice of who they want to be President. I don't want McCain or Obama to win but I don't want to deny sheeple that want to vote for one of them that opportunity on a technicality. And that is all this is, a meaningless technicality. Bob Barr should be ashamed of himself, but considering the way he treated Ron Paul I doubt he ever feels shame. He has really showed himself to be just yet another slimy lying politician.
 
No, it would be the denying the people of Texas a complete choice of who they want to be President. I don't want McCain or Obama to win but I don't want to deny sheeple that want to vote for one of them that opportunity on a technicality. And that is all this is, a meaningless technicality. Bob Barr should be ashamed of himself, but considering the way he treated Ron Paul I doubt he ever feels shame. He has really showed himself to be just yet another slimy lying politician.

Do the people of Texas have a complete choice of who they want to be president now? How many parties are on their ballot?
 
Bob Barr has no time for a proper investigation of 9/11 but he has time for frivolous suits like this one calling it serious. Bob Barr won't change anything, he is just another puppet of the elite.


It is not a frivolous lawsuit. There are state election laws in place. Either there are laws, or there are not. Laws either must be followed by everybody, or anybody can break them without repercussion. I commend Barr for making this stance to uphold the law. Something you obviously have no clue about or care for.... :rolleyes:
 
The best possible outcome of this lawsuit is NOT that Obama and McCain are kept off the Texas ballot. The best possible outcome, for the long-term integrity of our electoral system and for third parties, is that Obama and McCain are allowed on the ballot AND the ruling is worded in such a way as to set a precedent that can be used to force greater inclusion for all parties in the future. We want the justices to say, "The ballot access laws in Texas are invalid for [specific reason]."

The only bad outcome is a ruling that says, essentially, "Obama and McCain must be placed on the ballot because lots of people want to vote for them, and it would be a disservice to the public not to include them."

In fact, I think this is the most likely outcome, because I have little faith in the Texas Supreme Court's willingness to exhibit some balls. I pray I'm wrong.
 
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