Bob Barr DEBATES - Chuck Baldwin and Ralph Nader TODAY LIVE! LINK HERE

Ahh a question was just asked about whether they would consider joining forces. :D
The guy who asked that was an idiot. Probably one of the morons in this forum who are still insisting RP should run 3rd party, even today.

Why not ask a substantive question of one of these guys? Challenge them on their positions. Challenge them on their records.

LAME.
 
The guy who asked that was an idiot. Probably one of the morons in this forum who are still insisting RP should run 3rd party, even today.

Why not ask a substantive question of one of these guys? Challenge them on their positions. Challenge them on their records.

LAME.

Actually I think it was a good question. Not because I think Ron Paul should necessarily run as a 3rd party but to see their response.

Are these third party candidates so used to losing that they would rather continue this charade of getting 1-5% of the vote every 4 years while making absolutely NO progress whatsoever and changing ANYTHING? I listen to all three of them agree with about 90% of what each other says yet STILL profess that "they" are the best candidate.

It is already hard enough to fight the two major political powers when they control the debate commission but that question right there showed me exactly why they will NEVER challenge the major two parties. These third parties have their own egos and agendas just like the Republicans and Democrats. They seem generally content with losing and have really NO interest in any real change. They'd rather just sit up there and give the dog & pony show in their 15 minutes in the spotlight while spouting the "message" to people that probably already know it (and in some cases know more than they do).

It isn't unlike the various types of personalities in these forums. We all strive for Liberty. We all want Freedom. But it seems that everyone has a different theory about how to achieve it and rather than uniting around that which we share in common, we constantly fight about the things we disagree with.

That question told me exactly what I needed to know.
 
a socialist and a theocrat

decisions decisions


yeah u know ur right. i dont 100% back either of these guys. damn dr. paul, just when i thought id actually be able to really support someone in our whitehouse, where are you??? this sucks. :mad: maybe i wont even bother to vote at all.

I missed this event today, i forgot is wasnt on at night. anyways.

baldwin has way too much religion, and i do believe in seperation of church & state.
nader, from what i remember was gonna give us the carbon tax and in some ways is way to socialist/spread the wealth.

Vote for NObody! :(
 
cspan or no?

C-SPAN will broadcast it this weekend.

If you miss it this afternoon, C-Span will be running it over the weekend.

That was from an e-mail I got from the Nader campaign.

And this press release says Barr and Nader confirmed:
http://www.votenader.org/media/2008/10/30/debate/

No idea if Baldwin was there. He hasn't sent out a press release in over a month (http://baldwin08.com/Press-Releases.cfm).

EDIT: Okay, there was a Campaign Update that said all three were there:
http://campaign.blog.bobbarr2008.com/2008/10/30/the-debate/
 
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looks like tobin has burned to many bridges

she declined to debate and her VP Rosa declined to be in the VP deabte this Sunday!



Looks like the forum in cleveland was well done with the three parties participation and word is that cynthia was across the US and asked to see if they could bring her in by video link but wasnt possible.

Real bummer that free and equals christina tobin burned so many bridges and lost rosa, hopefully she doesnt loose root as well.

Not too smart to advertise people to be at events when they havent said they can be there.

Hopefully darrell and gonzalez have a good debate in vegas.

Nevada really needs other options for sure.
 
Looks like the forum in cleveland was well done with the three parties participation and word is that cynthia was across the US and asked to see if they could bring her in by video link but wasnt possible.

Real bummer that free and equals christina tobin burned so many bridges and lost rosa, hopefully she doesnt loose root as well.

Not too smart to advertise people to be at events when they havent said they can be there.

Hopefully darrell and gonzalez have a good debate in vegas.

Nevada really needs other options for sure.

There's a VP debate too? Cool.

Root's always in Vegas. Hah. He should be a firecracker.
 
their should be four candidates..and that is it

Actually I think it was a good question. Not because I think Ron Paul should necessarily run as a 3rd party but to see their response.

Are these third party candidates so used to losing that they would rather continue this charade of getting 1-5% of the vote every 4 years while making absolutely NO progress whatsoever and changing ANYTHING? I listen to all three of them agree with about 90% of what each other says yet STILL profess that "they" are the best candidate.

It is already hard enough to fight the two major political powers when they control the debate commission but that question right there showed me exactly why they will NEVER challenge the major two parties. These third parties have their own egos and agendas just like the Republicans and Democrats. They seem generally content with losing and have really NO interest in any real change. They'd rather just sit up there and give the dog & pony show in their 15 minutes in the spotlight while spouting the "message" to people that probably already know it (and in some cases know more than they do).

It isn't unlike the various types of personalities in these forums. We all strive for Liberty. We all want Freedom. But it seems that everyone has a different theory about how to achieve it and rather than uniting around that which we share in common, we constantly fight about the things we disagree with.

That question told me exactly what I needed to know.

The truth is fusion candidacy should be happening for the mirror image of the democrats and the mirror image side of the republicans.

Barr/Baldwin are somewhat close so are nader/mckinney.

Barr/Baldwin will go on for a while, but nader is nearly done given his age he doesnt have any choice but to hand off the mantle. Whether it be mckinney or ventura, or a combined ticket of those two together we only need two more choices besides the democrats and republicans for fusion tickets.

They should in the future think that way. Their social party stances can not be brought together as saw when attempted in the past with the reform party it does not last to bring together buchanan's and ventura's like tickets.
 
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