Bob Barr Ad: "Sad Ron Paul is out of the race? Learn more about Bob Barr!"

[Sentient Void]

I don't trust Bob Barr. Why exactly - I don't know... but I just don't. Call it "thin-slicing" the situation. If any of you have ever heard of it.

I'd only support him if Ron Paul gives an endorsement.

I have not yet heard of Ron Paul doing so.

Be careful of this Bob Barr... mark my words,

 

[Kotin]

same here...

i just dont trust him.

 

[Cinderella]

However, I fell head over heels for Ron Paul the very first time I heard him open his mouth.

i agree....i have never had any unexplained negative feelings toward paul....barr on the other hand gives me an evil butterfly feeling in my tummy....

he was probably put in there by the neocons to take any attention away from Dr. Paul.....its all a part of their plan

 

[0zzy]

You guys are ridiculously doubled standard. His campaign is doing it, therefore it's Barr's fault. Well, Paul's campaign and staff have done far worse, but it's not Paul's fault just his staff.

Barr is no perfect man, but you guys hate him for no reason that has inspired me to hate him too. I hate men who need hating, those who advocate total war and crap on the constitution. Barr does neither of those things, but I should hate him cause his staff said Paul is out of the race (and mathematically, he is. get used to it). blah blah blah. cry cry cry.

 

[Cinderella]

i dont think we ever said we hated him.....weve just expressed that he gives us a bad vibe....and i trust my intuitions

 

[Alex Libman]

Ron Paul is running in the sense that he didn't officially withdraw, but he's only running for the GOP nomination, which at this point is mathematically impossible. If McCain dies, someone like Romney will jump back into the race. It's over. Barr is running for a Libertarian Party nomination, which means that unlike Paul he can be on the ballot in November. Though there are lots of other good LP candidates to consider, like Ruwart and Root.

 

[pinkmandy]

i dont think we ever said we hated him.....weve just expressed that he gives us a bad vibe....and i trust my intuitions

Exactly. Maybe RP has raised the "barr" too high and we expect more. I love RP for his wisdom over the years, his foresight, and his willingness to stand up for his principles. It is displayed in every thing he does and says. I can't say that about Barr. How many wives has he had? 3? Sounds like a man who can't make a good decision in the first place or doesn't stand for certain morals some of us hold dear. That's a major character issue for me- so is adultery. If you can't uphold your marriage vows...

These things may not seem like a big deal to some but I do judge those I support based on how they live their lives.

 

[acptulsa]

Ron Paul is running in the sense that he didn't officially withdraw, but he's only running for the GOP nomination, which at this point is mathematically impossible. If McCain dies, someone like Romney will jump back into the race. It's over. Barr is running for a Libertarian Party nomination, which means that unlike Paul he can be on the ballot in November. Though there are lots of other good LP candidates to consider, like Ruwart and Root.

The neocons are trying to spread the disinformation that Dr. Paul dropped out because they full well realize that Sen. McCain has violated FEC rules (including, apparently, the law he co-sponsored) and was born in the Republic of Panama. Either could see him disqualified before November. And since the G.O.P. rank-and-file hate quitters, painting Dr. Paul as one of the quitters is an obvious tactic to immunize the party against the possibility of his nomination in this event.

You are an obvious supporter of the Libertarian Party. Promoting this neocon company line may be good for your cause, but in the event McCain must drop out the propogation of this false message will be bad for the greater cause of liberty because the Republican Party has always done better in the general election than the Libertarian Party and almost certainly will this year, also. At least as simple and undeniable a truth as your "mathematical impossib[ility]".

He used to toe the neocon line, and in this sense he's still at it. He needs to get his story straight or go to hell.

 

[Elwar]

Barr shows why Ron Paul's campaign was so important.

There will be NO candidate for decades with the principled track record that Ron Paul has. We've all heard every candidate talk about small government and then get into office and show that they're the same as everyone else "The era of big government is over" -Bill Clinton

Barr's track record while in Washington shows that he cannot be trusted. Would you vote for Hillary Clinton if she lost her Senate seat (because she was targeted by libertarians) and then tried to tell everyone that she is now a libertarian?

The American voters had a chance at freedom, they opted against it.

You're trying to sell false freedom to the wrong people.

 

[Exarel]

I don't trust him 1/100th as much as i do Ron Paul.

 

[weslinder]

Ron Paul is running in the sense that he didn't officially withdraw, but he's only running for the GOP nomination, which at this point is mathematically impossible. If McCain dies, someone like Romney will jump back into the race. It's over. Barr is running for a Libertarian Party nomination, which means that unlike Paul he can be on the ballot in November. Though there are lots of other good LP candidates to consider, like Ruwart and Root.

Dude, seriously. Either join us in a legitimate fight within the Republican Party or go somewhere else to fight windmills. This isn't bobbarrforums.com or wayneallynrootforums.com. We're fighting for a candidate with a chance and a movement that is gaining ground every day. We'd like to have you on board instead of fighting for a party that isn't going anywhere.

(And if by chance Ron Paul isn't the GOP nominee, you can still make a statement vote for Root or Barr in November. I'll do that, but I'm part of a movement to change the country, not just make statements.)

 

[acptulsa]

Why on earth are so many people here who refuse to give up and jump on whatever bandwagon looks halfway promising? Why are we so determined to drive home the seemingly esoteric point that he hasn't dropped out?

There will be NO candidate for decades with the principled track record that Ron Paul has.

Ronald Reagan was one of thousands who talked the talk. For well over twenty years, Dr. Paul has demonstrably walked the walk. In an age when, even more than ever before, politicians are bought and sold, what is that worth?

 

[Vet_from_cali]

lol what a idiot

 

[Aratus]

there are reasons why i thought bob barr and his strong ego that at times
is not into ayn rand's egoism does indeedy deserve his own merrie forum!!!
each time someone creates a bob barr thread, here we go again! admittedly
we get to crack borat and bruno if not cheese jokes, or even debate the long
career of charlton heston and the ten commandments, however if a PAC person
around bob barr tried to take advantage of the BS coming off of the mainstream
media at a time when ron paul people are into gettin' delegates to the convention,
this is why i think all these BOB BARR threads most pro and con NEED A NEW FORUM!

 

[Aratus]

it can also have a sub-forum for people like jesse ventura and all likely running mates!

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Why don't we get a sub-forum specifically for "Other Liberty Candidates" rather than the sort that only specify "other races" or "other campaigns" now? This seems like a happy medium.

The threads for Barr, Ron Paul Republicans for lower offices, and similar outsiders like Ventura who might run for Senate could concentrate there.

 

[0zzy]

Your guys ignorance astounds me.

1) Ron Paul WILL NOT GET THE NOMINATION! He is mathematically out, he will not be the Republican GOP. It is impossible. If McCain died, Romney (who suspended his campaign) would jump back in or they would get someone else to take his place.

2) To vote for the Libertarian Party and November and participate delegate process for the GOP primary are two separate things. You can do both. One does not destroy the other. Stop whining that this is taking precious time, it isn't. You're all making up excuses.

3) This movement is not about Ron Paul, it's about liberty. Paul will forever be our hero, but even heroes die. He will not be president via GOP, it won't happen. We can't have the "Paul or die". Those who dislike Barr, I'm sorry. I just don't understand but to each their own.

4) THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY. STFU! Barr is not here to destroy our movement, he is not in the LP to destroy the party. He is just a man, a man with with flaws, thinking about running for the presidency on the libertarian ticket.

5) I'm going to reiterate this: YOU CAN FIGHT WITHIN THE GOP AND VOTE FOR THE LP IN NOVEMBER! We must remember party loyalty is not a litmus test for voting. We shall not vote for McCain to "fight within the GOP", makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[ItsTime]

The Libertarians trying to grow their base will destroy this movement, period. This movement is the RON PAUL movement. If Ron Paul wanted the movement to take place in the Libertarian Party he would have run as a Libertarian.

But Ron Paul is a smart man and knows that there is ZERO CHANCE of getting a "liberty minded person" elected as a Libertarian. So what was the plan? To bring the Republican Party back from the grips of neo-conservatism and back to core Republican values and the constitution.

Vote for what ever candidate you want but remember the movement and keep working within the Republican Party.

 

[syborius]

Given Barr's flip-flopping and pandering, I wouldn't vote for him for dogcatcher, much less POTUS.

In private he dislikes Ron Paul....most likely jealousy. If Bob Barr gets 100 people to a rally I will be impressed. He panders and there is no way in hell the RP people will support such a guy. Barr is just another bureaucratic trying to recapture some of the disgust the American people have right now for politics, he's an opportunist that wants to ride the path RP has blazed. I doubt he will get any airtime, and it will be a HUGE mistake for any RP people to support his candidacy for POTUS. I see him as a two-faced fake with little interest in helping the people get out of the mess we are in right now.

 

[Richie]

In private he dislikes Ron Paul....most likely jealousy. If Bob Barr gets 100 people to a rally I will be impressed. He panders and there is no way in hell the RP people will support such a guy. Barr is just another bureaucratic trying to recapture some of the disgust the American people have right now for politics, he's an opportunist that wants to ride the path RP has blazed. I doubt he will get any airtime, and it will be a HUGE mistake for any RP people to support his candidacy for POTUS. I see him as a two-faced fake with little interest in helping the people get out of the mess we are in right now.

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