Blowback from Recount = End of Us!!

[Ron2Win]

Guys, if we demand a recount we are fringe, it's over.

On top of that we are cry babies. Buh buh buh we didn't beat the Ghoul!

Think Kucinich buh buh buh but the debate. What did that got him? What did it get us?

Stop hanging in these forums. Look around you, have you ever seen a car with a Ron Paul bumper sticker?

Keep spreading the message. Email people with Youtube links, keep handing out self printed flyers. 10 people X 100 flyers = 1000 flyers. Print them out on your local printer. Or go to kinkos and spend U$10 for christs sakes.

Just do your jobs. Get out of this place.

What you can do is contact the media. Let them run with the story. Let them get busted, if it is false. Where is DIGG.COM when we need it? We can cast doubt, that is important. And that furthers our cause. Call a radio talk show. Plant the scrutiny seed into people. Cast doubt. We must undermine the trust in the system. If we go all the way to Nov 4th and we have A DAY WHERE AMERICA STOPPED, TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL, THERE IS NO DENYING THAT

 

[hayeksrevenge]

Guys, if we demand a recount we are fringe, it's over.

On top of that we are cry babies. Buh buh buh we didn't beat the Ghoul!

Stop hanging in these forums. Look around you, have you ever seen a car with a Ron Paul bumper sticker?

Keep spreading the message. Email people with Youtube links, keep handing out self printed flyers. 10 people X 100 flyers = 1000 flyers. Print them out on your local printer. Or go to kinkos and spend U$10 for christs sakes.

Just do your jobs. Get out of this place.

I agree with you Ron2Win. Imagine if the recount came back with zero or very little difference. The media would have a field day with that one... people would lose trust in Dr. Paul's judgement.

No recount. On to Michigan and SC.

 

[Onslaught_Fei]

Lets stop fighting for scraps. We're not dogs. Let's be real and lets keep fighting for what we believe in. Spread the idea. Spread the message. Do not be spastic.

 

[werdd]

I agree entirely.

If we independently fund the recount, we will get the same results, minus the blowback.

This is important, but not so important to tarnish the dr's name.

Alex jones is supposedly getting in touch with Lyman to get this thing set up.

Until then, stop wasting the HQS resources.

 

[rwl4]

Exactly.

 

[Sam_Adams]

Finally some sense appears in the midst of the fog.

 

[FrankRep]

Blowback from election fraud??????

 

[Menthol Patch]

If the campaign does not demand a recount in New Hampshire we will be sending a message to every neo-con in this nation that we don't care if votes are stolen from us and we will NOT take action. That's right! We will be telling them they can steal our votes and we will do NOTHING! However, by demanding a recount NOW the campaign can set a PRECEDENT that if anyone tampers with our votes there WILL be a recount, people WILL be prosecuted, and people WILL end up in prison!

Ron Paul is almost certainly the most HATED candidate in decades. Why? Because he promotes freedom! It's OBVIOUS that the neo-cons would try and tamper with his votes! Ron Paul is a THREAT to them!

We need to all call the campaign and demand they pay for a recount in New Hampshire!

Ron Paul HEAD QUARTERS

703-248-9115

If there is not a recount then we can COUNT on more votes being stolen on Super Tuesday!

 

[Sam_Adams]

You can't independently fund the recount. The candidate has to request it. Sorry guys.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

Some things are more important then the campaign. This is fucking America where EVERY vote should count. I agree it would kill the campaign to ask for a recount, its just a shame that the PEOPLE have no recourse.

 

[Onslaught_Fei]

Some things are more important then the campaign. This is fucking America where EVERY vote should count. I agree it would kill the campaign to ask for a recount, its just a shame that the PEOPLE have no recourse.

This is not a presidential election. This is the Republican sponsored and funded primary. This is not part of the constitution or what the people demand. This is what the party demands.

 

[Ron2Win]

Blowback from election fraud??????

You really think there is time?

 

[nate895]

You can't independently fund the recount. The candidate has to request it. Sorry guys.

Get Keyes to demand it then.

 

[sharedvoice]

You can't independently fund the recount. The candidate has to request it. Sorry guys.

Ridiculous. Individuals can file a complaint with the State Elections Board, and the FEC. As a voter you are entitled the right to have your vote counted. The candidate does NOT have to request it. Sorry you are misinformed.

Onslaught_Fei you are wrong. The same rules do apply. If there are significant voting discrepancies and voter irregularities the State is obligated to take a look at it. Especially if there is enough evidence to back it up and a subsequent legal action taken.

 

[nate895]

This is not a presidential election. This is the Republican sponsored and funded primary. This is not part of the constitution or what the people demand. This is what the party demands.

The Primaries are state ran elections, and the state parties say yes or no on if they count before the election process.

 

[Aldanga]

Get Keyes to demand it then.

That's exactly what I've been thinking.

 

[NoMoreApathy]

Just tell me one thing then..

If this type of thing happens again in another primary, THEN WHAT?

Still don't demand a re-count?

And then if it happens again after THAT, we still don't demand a re-count?

I mean, it's almost 6 one, half a dozen the other. Either we demand a re-count, and potentially get lambasted and the campaign gets hurt, or we continue to allow the shenanigans because we're afraid of our image being tainted, in which case, the campaign will be getting hurt, because we are losing actual votes that were cast.

I think, when you weigh both of those decisions, the re-count wins out, because that way, we stood up for ourselves, and let the establishment know that we won't tolerate it.

This isn't all just about Ron Paul, and right now...it's about all the FUTURE Ron Paul's that may come along, and us making sure the path for them to run for president clear of all manipulation.

 

[Quantumystic]

Guys, if we demand a recount we are fringe, it's over.

On top of that we are cry babies. Buh buh buh we didn't beat the Ghoul!

Stop hanging in these forums. Look around you, have you ever seen a car with a Ron Paul bumper sticker?

Keep spreading the message. Email people with Youtube links, keep handing out self printed flyers. 10 people X 100 flyers = 1000 flyers. Print them out on your local printer. Or go to kinkos and spend U$10 for christs sakes.

Just do your jobs. Get out of this place.

What you can do is contact the media. Let them run with the story. Let them get busted. We can cast doubt, that is important. And that furthers our cause.

I don't think you're keeping up on this. The Greenville instance is far worse, and literally affects the outcome of the race.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#val=NHREP9
vs
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=news0807

McCain, Huckabee, Giuliani, and Hunter are all correctly reported. 86,32,16,and 5 votes respectively. Romney, Paul, and Thompson are all reported as ZERO by CNN claiming 100% reporting. But the Nashua Telegraph reveals that Romney actually WINS Greenville w/ 124 votes, and Paul beats Giuliani w/ 25. Thompson received 2 votes.

THIS was no "accident". And the end result is that 52% of the Greenville vote wasn't reported AT ALL (by CNN). Just as with Sutton. So who knows if this has been corrected with the Secretary of State.

I'm sure that knowledge of such flagrant errors in the reporting process will of great interest to both the Romney and Obama camps. Unfortunately, the Romney campaign has a single phone listing and the voicemail is FULL. At least until tomorrow morning.

These other campaigns have just as big a stake in accurate vote counting as we do. I for one, intend to make contact and point out the misreporting to them as a matter of their own self-interest.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

This isn't all just about Ron Paul, and right now...it's about all the FUTURE Ron Paul's that may come along, and us making sure the path for them to run for president clear of all manipulation.

No truer words have been said.

 

[Ron2Win]

Just tell me one thing then..

If this type of thing happens again in another primary, THEN WHAT?

Still don't demand a re-count?

And then if it happens again after THAT, we still don't demand a re-count?

I mean, it's almost 6 one, half a dozen the other. Either we demand a re-count, and potentially get lambasted and the campaign gets hurt, or we continue to allow the shenanigans because we're afraid of our image being tainted, in which case, the campaign will be getting hurt, because we are losing actual votes that were cast.

I think, when you weigh both of those decisions, the re-count wins out, because that way, we stood up for ourselves, and let the establishment know that we won't tolerate it.

This isn't all just about Ron Paul, and right now...it's about all the FUTURE Ron Paul's that may come along, and us making sure the path for them to run for president clear of all manipulation.

Spread the message. Enlighten people. Take charge and be empowered.