Bloomberg releases gun control roadmap for Biden and Harris

[Matt Collins]

https://everytown.org/press/everyto...arch-highlights-critical-need-to-move-quickl/

 

[Matt Collins]

Here is the plan explained in video format:






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgFdER5joPU

 

[Anti Globalist]

This roadmap will probably be completely within the first year of Biden's presidency.

 

[Matt Collins]

This roadmap will probably be completely within the first year of Biden's presidency.

One source said the first 100 days

 

[eleganz]

Oh yea but get mad that Trump threw a bone to the mob by banning bumpstocks even though there are other devices that can do the same thing bumpstocks do.

Libertarians have no idea how to prioritize.

 

[Contumacious]

Yet more reasons for President Trump to unleash the military on these treasonous/Seditious bastards.

 

[Matt Collins]

Oh yea but get mad that Trump threw a bone to the mob by banning bumpstocks even though there are other devices that can do the same thing bumpstocks do.

Never give the enemy an inch, never compromise, never violate the Constitution. Ever. Trump is a traitor for that.

 

[eleganz]

Never give the enemy an inch, never compromise, never violate the Constitution. Ever. Trump is a traitor for that.

lmao. enjoy your first 100 days of Biden.

 

[Contumacious]

Never give the enemy an inch, never compromise, never violate the Constitution. Ever. Trump is a traitor for that.

Indeed


The NRA and the 2AF have been doing that for years.

It’s really a sad state of affairs

 

[Occam's Banana]

Oh yea but get mad that Trump threw a bone to the mob by banning bumpstocks even though there are other devices that can do the same thing bumpstocks do.

It's nice of you to grant your permission and all, but I think I'll just go ahead and be mad at all the gun-grabbers (including the half-assed ones like Trump) - with or without your approval. And their apologists can go to hell, too.

 

[PAF]

Oh yea but get mad that Trump threw a bone to the mob by banning bumpstocks even though there are other devices that can do the same thing bumpstocks do.

Libertarians have no idea how to prioritize.

It's nice of you to grant your permission and all, but I think I'll just go ahead and be mad at all the gun-grabbers (including the half-assed ones like Trump) - with or without your approval. And their apologists can go to hell, too.

Never give the enemy an inch, never compromise, never violate the Constitution. Ever. Trump is a traitor for that.

+ REP [MENTION=991]Matt Collins[/MENTION] and [MENTION=28167]Occam's Banana[/MENTION]


You forgot the NEVER Fund the Enemy part. OWS, for example.

 

[eleganz]

It's nice of you to grant your permission and all, but I think I'll just go ahead and be mad at all the gun-grabbers (including the half-assed ones like Trump) - with or without your approval. And their apologists can go to hell, too.

Please do share with the class exactly which gun Trump grabbed?
I'll even tag you [MENTION=28167]Occam's Banana[/MENTION] so you get the notification.

Trump quietly used regulations to expand gun access
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/trump-gun-access-restrictions-1449663

Federal agencies have implemented more than half a dozen policy changes — primarily through little-noticed regulatory moves — that expand access to guns by lifting firearms bans in certain locations and limiting the names in the national database designed to keep firearms away from dangerous people. The administration asked the Supreme Court to overturn New York City restrictions on transporting handguns outside homes. And it pushed to allow U.S. gunmakers to more easily sell firearms overseas, including the types used in mass shootings.

“This president has in a very intentional, sweeping way made it easier for people to access firearms, not more difficult,” said Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.), a vice chairman of the House Gun Violence Prevention Task Force. “He’s systematically gone and undone all the protections that were put in place to try to limit the ability of dangerous people to access firearms.”

 

[Occam's Banana]

Please do share with the class exactly which gun Trump grabbed?

He didn't. But he encouraged it ("take the guns first, due process later") and established Executive Orders as an extra-legislative means which others will surely take even further. That's why I call him a half-assed gun-grabber (he couldn't even get that shit right).

There are some positive things to say about Trump (I for one like that he didn't start any new wars), but a champion (or even weak-sauce defender) of the Second Amendment he ain't. People should just stop pretending that he was. They're embarrassing themselves.

 

[fedupinmo]

The instructions are already out there...

 

[Intoxiklown]

Please do share with the class exactly which gun Trump grabbed?

As long as we're intellectually honest with his actions along with knowing that any new precedent to abuse a power set by a predecessor is the ultimate gift that keeps giving....the "class" may be relaying that list for a good while.

With their creative wording to magically classify a bump fire stock as an illegal machine gun on it's own they made the definition of what can be construed to constitute a firearm or a firearm accessory as an illegal machine so vague and left to how a lawyer wants to to interpret and/or utilize that EO as a foundation to ban some more stuff. Of course, none of that even compares to Trump deciding there was no need for Congress to weigh in....why include our elected state representatives on things as trivial as issues pertaining to the Bill of Rights? He turned hundreds of thousands of legal and law abiding Americans into felons overnight, and added the cherry by deeming a legally bought firearm accessory illegal with no grandfather clause or financial compensation for the property he just decided to deprive people of.

If you look at the link posted by Matt if you haven't already, you'll see the title of their memo that lays out a course of actions that Biden could take to bypass Congress just like Trump did. It's called, "How the Strongest Gun Safety Administration in American History Can Address Gun Violence Through Executive Action" and while temptation to use EOs for something along these lines isn't exclusive to Trump...he is the only President to ever use an EO to attack parts of the gun industry and by virtue gun owners. So he's now supplied the anti-gun crowd with a source to cite when/if Biden does the same thing with an EO. Just remember that when that happens with something you can't easily with other options like your belt loop that you completely supported that kind of Executive BS.

Trump quietly used regulations to expand gun access
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ctions-1449663

Federal agencies have implemented more than half a dozen policy changes — primarily through little-noticed regulatory moves — that expand access to guns by lifting firearms bans in certain locations

He sure did. But that is a misleading statement as granting access to guns isn't the case. Rather, he gave gun owners access to certain federal lands for hunting. The only access to certain things relating to firearms he granted was by repealing a ban on sales to people that are neither US citizens and not within the US itself. So Joe Bob Frenchie can now buy a firearm, yet I'm a felon over a piece of plastic.

People that call Trump a supporter of the 2nd amendment and it's supporters seriously remind me of the Obama supporters who defended Obama for murdering an American citizen and his 16 year old son two weeks later as a champion for American safety. Because nothing protects individual safety like wiping your ass with their right to due process.

 

[Intoxiklown]

Anyone sitting on some rep to spread cover me on Banana. A statement like this....

It's nice of you to grant your permission and all, but I think I'll just go ahead and be mad at all the gun-grabbers (including the half-assed ones like Trump) - with or without your approval. And their apologists can go to hell, too.

.......demands some love. And all I got right now is...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Occam's Banana again.

 

[jmdrake]

Oh yea but get mad that Trump threw a bone to the mob by banning bumpstocks even though there are other devices that can do the same thing bumpstocks do.

Other manufactured devices (hellfire switches) were already banned. You can't ban rubber bans. So the next logical step, once Trump took advanced the ball the wrong direction to the enemies 50 yard line, is to by executive order ban any gun capable of rapidly firing 10 or more rounds. And what you are unable to grasp is the "bone" had meat on it. A lower court upheld what Trump did as constitutional and the U.S. Supreme Court refused certiori of that case despite there being a "conservative" majority. If you had more than two brain cells to rub together you would be able to see the problem. When the Harris/Biden executive orders on 80 percent lowers, for example, are challenged in court, the ruling on the Trump bumpfire stock ban will be cited. You can take that to the bank.

Libertarians have no idea how to prioritize.

Well you wouldn't know since you aren't a libertarian.

Never give the enemy an inch, never compromise, never violate the Constitution. Ever. Trump is a traitor for that.

^This.

lmao. enjoy your first 100 days of Biden.

Fat lot of good Trump's "bone" to the "mob" did him then.

Indeed


The NRA and the 2AF have been doing that for years.

It’s really a sad state of affairs

^This

It's nice of you to grant your permission and all, but I think I'll just go ahead and be mad at all the gun-grabbers (including the half-assed ones like Trump) - with or without your approval. And their apologists can go to hell, too.

And ^this.

 

[jmdrake]

Please do share with the class exactly which gun Trump grabbed?
I'll even tag you [MENTION=28167]Occam's Banana[/MENTION] so you get the notification.

LOL. I read through the Politico argument. So Trump made it easier for people overseas to buy semi automatic rifles, fugitives who don't cross state lines to buy guns, and people receiving mental disability payments to buy guns. Okay. The last one is arguably good since that could be vets with PTSD. (Could also be some 16 y/o kid with schizophrenia.) Compared that to making it a crime for ordinary law abiding citizens with no mental health issues to buy a gun accessory because "Hey! You can always use a rubber band." Next on the chopping block! Laser sights. But it's okay. You can always use a laser pointer and duct tape. And Trump opening up wilderness areas for hunting? Obama opened up federal parks to gun carrying as well as Amtrak.

 

[Contumacious]

Other manufactured devices (hellfire switches) were already banned. You can't ban rubber bans. So the next logical step, once Trump took advanced the ball the wrong direction to the enemies 50 yard line, is to by executive order ban any gun capable of rapidly firing 10 or more rounds. And what you are unable to grasp is the "bone" had meat on it. A lower court upheld what Trump did as constitutional and the U.S. Supreme Court refused certiori of that case despite there being a "conservative" majority. If you had more than two brain cells to rub together you would be able to see the problem. When the Harris/Biden executive orders on 80 percent lowers, for example, are challenged in court, the ruling on the Trump bumpfire stock ban will be cited. You can take that to the bank.



Well you wouldn't know since you aren't a libertarian.



^This.



Fat lot of good Trump's "bone" to the "mob" did him then.



^This



And ^this.

The absolute, unalienable right to bear arms is our property right .

We are going to exercise the right even if we have to resort to the blackmarket .

We will not be disarmed.


.

 

[Occam's Banana]

As long as we're intellectually honest with his actions along with knowing that any new precedent to abuse a power set by a predecessor is the ultimate gift that keeps giving....the "class" may be relaying that list for a good while.

With their creative wording to magically classify a bump fire stock as an illegal machine gun on it's own they made the definition of what can be construed to constitute a firearm or a firearm accessory as an illegal machine so vague and left to how a lawyer wants to to interpret and/or utilize that EO as a foundation to ban some more stuff. Of course, none of that even compares to Trump deciding there was no need for Congress to weigh in....why include our elected state representatives on things as trivial as issues pertaining to the Bill of Rights? He turned hundreds of thousands of legal and law abiding Americans into felons overnight, and added the cherry by deeming a legally bought firearm accessory illegal with no grandfather clause or financial compensation for the property he just decided to deprive people of.

If you look at the link posted by Matt if you haven't already, you'll see the title of their memo that lays out a course of actions that Biden could take to bypass Congress just like Trump did. It's called, "How the Strongest Gun Safety Administration in American History Can Address Gun Violence Through Executive Action" and while temptation to use EOs for something along these lines isn't exclusive to Trump...he is the only President to ever use an EO to attack parts of the gun industry and by virtue gun owners. So he's now supplied the anti-gun crowd with a source to cite when/if Biden does the same thing with an EO. Just remember that when that happens with something you can't easily with other options like your belt loop that you completely supported that kind of Executive BS.

Other manufactured devices (hellfire switches) were already banned. You can't ban rubber bans. So the next logical step, once Trump took advanced the ball the wrong direction to the enemies 50 yard line, is to by executive order ban any gun capable of rapidly firing 10 or more rounds. And what you are unable to grasp is the "bone" had meat on it. A lower court upheld what Trump did as constitutional and the U.S. Supreme Court refused certiori of that case despite there being a "conservative" majority. If you had more than two brain cells to rub together you would be able to see the problem. When the Harris/Biden executive orders on 80 percent lowers, for example, are challenged in court, the ruling on the Trump bumpfire stock ban will be cited. You can take that to the bank.

With "friends" like Trump, who needs the NRA?