Bloomberg Poll - Rand in the lead nationally

[Foreigner]

So while not a traditional poll, as one can vote for multiple candidates, this is very encouraging results! In the lead both with "Seriously consider" and "Might consider".

The poll: http://images.businessweek.com/cms/...-Poll-Apr-2015-for-methodology-attachment.pdf

But the bloomberg article accompanying it was pretty slated against Rand as he had a large gender gap in this poll. (11%-22%, but when you add in the "might consider" category, there is no actual gender gap) It also spend a good amount of digital ink on the unpopularity of Jeb Bush:

Bloomberg Politics National Poll: Rand Paul, Jeb Bush Face Primary Obstacles

There's good news for the Kentucky senator, though: More Republicans and independents say they'd consider supporting him than any other potential GOP candidate.

Republican presidential candidate Rand Paul may have a problem with women, and Jeb Bush already has been written off by a large share of potential primary voters, according to a new Bloomberg Politics national poll that underscores the wide-open nature of the race four months before the first primary debate.

Just 11 percent of Republican and independent women in the poll said they'd seriously consider supporting Paul, a U.S. senator from Kentucky who announced his presidential bid last week, compared to 22 percent of men. No other Republican contender has a worse spread.

Among all Republicans and independents in the poll, 42 percent said they would never consider voting for Bush, a former Florida governor and brother and son to former presidents.

The news is not all bad for Paul, and in fact, when Republicans and independents were asked whom they would potentially consider supporting, Paul topped the field with 58 percent. At least 50 percent of those same voters said they'd also be willing to consider five other aspirants—former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, former Texas Governor Rick Perry, Florida Senator Marco Rubio, Texas Senator Ted Cruz, and Bush—showing that the party has several visible, viable, and worthy candidates and signaling a potentially lengthy nomination battle.

More: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...oll-rand-paul-jeb-bush-face-primary-obstacles
(Not breaking the link since it's mostly positive news for Rand)

 

[francisco]

Great info here!

Not only does Rand lead all others in the "seriously consider" category--

He's tied for the lead in the "might consider" category (with Perry and Rubio)--

AND--very important IMNSHO opinion--

When you add "seriously consider" and "might consider" numbers for each candidate, and subtract the "never consider", Rand and Rubio are tied for the lead at 25%. Only Walker is close on this calculated metric, at 23%. Huckabee is 19%, Perry is 17%, and Cruz is only 14%. Bush rates a mere 10%. Trump, Graham, Pataki and Pence are actually negative.

 

[Superfly]

Rubio has the personality of a wet fucking carrot. I just don't get it.

 

[65fastback2+2]

Great info here!

Not only does Rand lead all others in the "seriously consider" category--

He's tied for the lead in the "might consider" category (with Perry and Rubio)--

AND--very important IMNSHO opinion--

When you add "seriously consider" and "might consider" numbers for each candidate, and subtract the "never consider", Rand and Rubio are tied for the lead at 25%. Only Walker is close on this calculated metric, at 23%. Huckabee is 19%, Perry is 17%, and Cruz is only 14%. Bush rates a mere 10%. Trump, Graham, Pataki and Pence are actually negative.

another note, Rand is the only one with serious consider + might consider that is over 50% combined.

 

[francisco]

another note, Rand is the only one with serious consider + might consider that is over 50% combined.

Not really (examples, Huckabee 55%, Perry 54%, Rubio 53%, Perry 54%, Bush 52%)-- but it is true that Rand leads at 58%

 

[anaconda]

Rubio has the personality of a wet fucking carrot. I just don't get it.

I watched some of the first season of Alpha House, and it seemed perfectly clear that the young, handsome, airhead Senator from Florida was a complete lampooning of Rubio.

 

[Bergie Bergeron]

The results for Trump are hilarious.

 

[hells_unicorn]

The results for Trump are hilarious.

Trump is never going to run for office. The guy is a shameless attention whore, nothing more. The fact that Fox News keeps entertaining his nonsense is more a reflection on their lack of journalistic ethics than anything else. People watch him for a giggle, but they'd entertain electing Tom Cruise president before they'd give Trump's comb-over a shot at the oval office.

 

[Uriah]

Trump is never going to run for office. The guy is a shameless attention whore, nothing more. The fact that Fox News keeps entertaining his nonsense is more a reflection on their lack of journalistic ethics than anything else. People watch him for a giggle, but they'd entertain electing Tom Cruise president before they'd give Trump's comb-over a shot at the oval office.

Trump has hired staff in Iowa and I've been contacted.

 

[jbauer]

Rubio has the personality of a wet fucking carrot. I just don't get it.

Jeb has the last name Bush and somehow they found enough stupid people to actually say they'd consider him. He belongs down in Lindsey land.

 

[jbauer]

Trump has hired staff in Iowa and I've been contacted.

Right, because it buys him cheap air time for all his other endeavors.

 

[William Tell]

Cool! I wish it showed first choice though.

 

[William Tell]

ooooooo, gotta love the Never Considers on Trump, Lindsey, and Shrub III

Oh, and of course the Bacon King.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Every time I read one of these polls, I am shocked by how well Jeb Bush does. It totally blows my mind that he is even in the slightest consideration. I feel like I've stumbled into some strange, bizzaro universe where nothing makes sense anymore. There are people that ACTUALLY want a single powerful family to politically dominate the nation for years and years unending. I'm sure if we didn't have term limits on Presidents, they would keep a Bush in office for 50 years straight.

These people deserve to be ruled. I suppose these are the descendents of 1/3 of Americans who were British sympathizers in the Revolutionary War.

 

[eleganz]

Every time I read one of these polls, I am shocked by how well Jeb Bush does. It totally blows my mind that he is even in the slightest consideration. I feel like I've stumbled into some strange, bizzaro universe where nothing makes sense anymore. There are people that ACTUALLY want a single powerful family to politically dominate the nation for years and years unending. I'm sure if we didn't have term limits on Presidents, they would keep a Bush in office for 50 years straight.

These people deserve to be ruled. I suppose these are the descendents of 1/3 of Americans who were British sympathizers in the Revolutionary War.

Why is it so hard to accept that Republicans actually like Bush?

You guys need to get active around your local Republican party more to get a real sense of the electorate.

 

[JohnGalt1225]

Every time I read one of these polls, I am shocked by how well Jeb Bush does. It totally blows my mind that he is even in the slightest consideration. I feel like I've stumbled into some strange, bizzaro universe where nothing makes sense anymore. There are people that ACTUALLY want a single powerful family to politically dominate the nation for years and years unending. I'm sure if we didn't have term limits on Presidents, they would keep a Bush in office for 50 years straight.

These people deserve to be ruled. I suppose these are the descendents of 1/3 of Americans who were British sympathizers in the Revolutionary War.

I feel the same way. When I first heard Jeb was considering a run I laughed because I thought, "no way, no way anyone other than his family a few delusional neocons would ever support him. The Bush name is tarnished." But then my mother-in-law, your typical GOP'er, hopped on board that train.

 

[JohnGalt1225]

Why is it so hard to accept that Republicans actually like Bush?

Because his family ruined their party and ushered in the era of Obama? I mean had we come off a mediocre GOP president Obama could have been beaten in 2012 (McCain was never going to win, no one likes McCain). GWB destroyed the GOP and his specter is just now receding. If the GOP is dumb enough to nominate Jeb and the American public is dumb enough to vote for him, than we deserve Hillary Clinton. H.L. Mencken was right, democracy really is just the theory that public knows what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Why is it so hard to accept that Republicans actually like Bush?

Reagan hated Bush Sr with a purple passion, Bush was forced on Reagan against his will lest they throw the whole 1980 election in the garbage.

Bush Sr and Jr have been some of the most progressive liberal holders of Republican Office in American history. They are just (barely) conservative enough to not get tossed out of the GOP on their ears.

Bush Jr's insanity brought us Obama.

America is no place for Kings, 'Deciders,' Rulers, or ruling dynasties.

You guys need to get active around your local Republican party more to get a real sense of the electorate.

The fact that there are people who do like him in the real world, does not make that fact any less blitheringly insane.

 

[eleganz]

Guys...guys,

My point was missed here...

I think its safe to say most of us here know about Bush, we're not fans of the Bush family but there are plenty of Republicans out there that like W and his name helps Jeb with favor.

Republicans still like Bush and that's not really changing anytime soon, not even if we tell each other how much the Bush's suck~.

 

[CPUd]

They haven't had a GW Bush speak live in person at the RNC since 2004.

Something to be said about having 2 former presidents in the party not getting stage time at the national convention.