Black This Out Rally in NYC, OCT 19 6am to 12am

[lucky_bg]

Bump!

 

[speciallyblend]

blimpin

 

[acptulsa]

Occupy? I'm thinking AlexMerced is right, and we need to think not in terms of occupation, but in terms of liberation. Has the deliberate trashing of the economy left us with enough scratch to pull off a Buy Rupert's Ass Out And Gain Control Of Fox Moneybomb?

 

[orenbus]

Ron Paul Sign Bomb Monday October 10, 2011
in less than 24 hours...



http://www.ronpaulsignbomb.com/

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?320314-Video-Ron-Paul-Sign-Bomb-Coming-October-10th

 

[rob7779]

I think its a brilliant idea!

 

[No Free Beer]

Holy poopers, good idea

 

[lucky_bg]

Occupy? I'm thinking AlexMerced is right, and we need to think not in terms of occupation, but in terms of liberation. Has the deliberate trashing of the economy left us with enough scratch to pull off a Buy Rupert's Ass Out And Gain Control Of Fox Moneybomb?

Let's not miss our objective here - it's to promote BTO menybomb - not to try to change the way CNN or FOX or MSNBC treat Ron Paul and his Presidental campaign. We know that would be lost cause. And where is more logical to promote it then at the headquarters of the MSM whose ignorance and bias is sole cause for BTO moneybomb in the first place. This way we would just use MSM, to promote BTO. They would be instrument to promote BTO, not the goal of our gathering, protest, occupying, liberating, call it whatever you want.

As I think more about this idea, I like it much more. With every moneybomb, we have two objectives - main objective to collect money for Ron's Presidental campaign and secondary objective to gain some positive media exposure about moneybomb AFTER it happens. This way, we would try and certainly get some level of media exposure for the moneybomb BEFORE it happens, which would certainly increase number of people donating to moneybomb and total amount of donated money.

Right now, we are promoting BTO mainly online, and just sporadically offline - mostly at some campaign related events. This would be quite a big and lasting event with sole purpose to promote BTO, and to hopefully gain some media promotion for it before it happens. We can argue what kind and level of media exposure would it get, but it certainly would get some level. Ofcourse CNN, FOX and MSNBC wouldn't be so keen to report about protest against them, happening at their doors, but it would last 4 or 5 days. They can ignore it first day, maybe even second, but they can not ignore it altogether for a 4 or 5 consecutive days. Especialy as some other media would certainly report about that. And it would help people working at MSM that are sympathetic to Ron Paul and his campaign, to promote BTO. Like Judge Napolitano, or Jack Cafferty, or some others. I can already see one segment of Cafferty file dedicated to this. And Jack would do it real good and push BTO, I know. We would be able to push on Drudge, Reddit, etc any kind of reports about this protest, and it would certainly create additional buzz BEFORE BTO moneybomb happens.

Point is, we need to think out of the box. Right now we are promoting BTO mainly online, and it's good and effective, but not enough effective, and not as effective as it can be. I follow progres on main thread dedicated to BTO moneybomb, and at this pace we won't reach preset goals before 19th. This would add different kind of promotion, force media to promote BTO moneybomb and help it become biggest moneybomb ever.

 

[lucky_bg]

Speciallyblend, can you please add a poll to this thread, so that we can have clearer picture about RPFs members opinion on this initiative, and hopefully get people more energized about it.

Edit: Also, if You agree, maybe it would be good for this thread to be moved in Grassroots central, where it should been from the start, IMHO, and maybe it wouldn't be bad to change thread title, to make it more appealing for all people that don't like OccupyWallStreet and anything that resembles in any way to OWS, and to underline that it would be BlackThisOut moneybomb promotional event.

Something like: "Occupy MSM/FOX/CNN/MSNBC as a way to promote BTO" or something like that.

 

[Fr0m_3ur0pe]

"Occupy" and "liberate" the press? I don't like those wordings at all, remainds me from what happened in Eastern Europe... And about the plan, maybe there could be some push for local media? Like mails to the papers and calls to the radio.

 

[Shane Harris]

good idea. i would love to see the media have to report on themsleves being occupied. priceless.

 

[lucky_bg]

As I see it we have 10 more days before BTO moneybomb. If we decide to make this event happen, then it's, let's say, 5 days to prepare it, and 5 days for actual event happening, including 19th ofcourse.

As with Ready, Ames, Fire moneybomb, we can have some kind of RadioThon or live feed at 19th from one of three locations in NY ( from one in front of FOX headquarters, let's say) with guests, and live reports on all events related to BTO moneybomb around the country. And at all three locations we can have big screens with RonPaul2012 front page on it, showing counter and ticker with donations.

Also, we would need huge amounts of BTO flyers during 5 days, at three locations in NY, as well as one flyer especially created to illustrate most blatant examples of media bias and ignorance towards Ron Paul and his campaign.

It would be nice, if we would be able to provide speciall BTO black and white T-shirts, for all participatians (I hope young people mostly), either free or to be bought on the spot as cheap as possible. That way, events will look more impresive and well organized, and participants wouldn't look like some crazy hippies at OWS.

And it can last from noon to 6 pm, lets's say, from 15th till 18th, and during all day, till midnight at 19th.

And of course, official name for the 5-day event would be "BlackThisOut!"

Just some thoughts on my part, feel free to make your suggestions.

 

[acptulsa]

Let's not miss our objective here - it's to promote BTO menybomb - not to try to change the way CNN or FOX or MSNBC treat Ron Paul and his Presidental campaign.

I do agree with you to a point. But, you know, we have been trying to change the rhetoric for four long years now, and a bunch of us haven't lost sight of that goal. When I think of how much better shape we'd be in if the broadcast media--specifically the broadcast media--weren't specifically blocking facts about Ron Paul and us out from the older voters who know full well that our values are the ones that made this nation great and that the things we want to do away with are things that the nation can survive without (because they lived here during a time when the nation didn't have them) it makes me crazy.

But, for the short term, yes let's make this moneybomb a success by any means. It is brilliant just because of the name--daring the media not to cover a fundraising event this successful and yet ensuring that they will ridicule themselves if and when they do.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Focus on the moneybomb, yes. As for Occupy MSNBC/CNN/FOX, it's a bad idea, as what we should be occupying is BROADCAST FOX, NBC, CBS and ABC, the Times, Post, and AP. The blackout of Paul coverage by the TOP tier media that most viewers follow is the real issue, the cable news shows that less than 10% of that group watch is NOT relevant. Let's not be distracted by cable shows that as few as 100,000 people watch. Go offline and off TV. Occupy local Republican clubs, occupy community centers, occupy talk radio phone lines, occupy every neighborhood where likely GOP voters are. That's where the battlefield is.

 

[speciallyblend]

Focus on the moneybomb, yes. As for Occupy MSNBC/CNN/FOX, it's a bad idea, as what we should be occupying is BROADCAST FOX, NBC, CBS and ABC, the Times, Post, and AP. The blackout of Paul coverage by the TOP tier media that most viewers follow is the real issue, the cable news shows that less than 10% of that group watch is NOT relevant. Let's not be distracted by cable shows that as few as 100,000 people watch. Go offline and off TV. Occupy local Republican clubs, occupy community centers, occupy talk radio phone lines, occupy every neighborhood where likely GOP voters are. That's where the battlefield is.

the whole point of it is to call out the media and promote the moneybomb!! blackthisout , which they are.

 

[speciallyblend]

poll added

 

[justinpagewood]

Yes please, we need to do an event Oct 19th. Can we get a group consensus soon so we can all start helping each other promote this? I am ready to do graphic design whenever the details are ironed out.

 

[lucky_bg]

Bump!

 

[kahless]

What do you think of when protesting Foxnews studies some of us have protest signs that also include pictures of Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes?

I am guessing the treatment of Paul by the network is coming from up top. It can work one of two ways, piss these guys off enough where they change their policy with the staff. If it is not an edict then piss them off enough where they get on the staff so they provide fair and balanced coverage. Worst case we pissed them off enough where the blackout is much worse.

 

[speciallyblend]

Yes please, we need to do an event Oct 19th. Can we get a group consensus soon so we can all start helping each other promote this? I am ready to do graphic design whenever the details are ironed out.

thanks ,we need some feet on the ground in nyc, Who in rpf is from nyc and can help get this organized with feet on the ground!!! A good Map for folks to get to the fox,cnn and msnbc hq..

 

[wgadget]

How far is it from Wall Street to these networks? Is a march doable?