Black patriot carries rifle to Obama rally/speaks against health care

then blood shed it will be.

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That would certainly discredit the movement and would play right into their hands. If anything like that were to happen the opposition would dry up and Obama could probably pass whatever he wants.
 
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That would certainly discredit the movement and would play right into their hands. If anything like that were to happen the opposition would dry up and Obama could probably pass whatever he wants.

I do believe slaves have a right to rebel against their masters.
I will not condemn a man who defends his life against those who wish to enslave him.. regardless of what MSNBC reports.
 
I was going to digg that article down since I thought TPM is a left wing site. Also, on the home page of TPM they have this.

"AZ Gun-Toters Tied to Violent 90s Era Militia
It was only a matter of time."

Wait Wait Wait, What?
What Violent 90s militia?
Do you mean the LIES of the 90s.
They have been pushing that for years. The only violence associated with the militia was Government initiated. A lot of Patriots have been murdered.
A False Flag was blamed on the "militia" and a patsy was tried and convicted.


And it IS expected again.
 
Wait Wait Wait, What?
What Violent 90s militia?
Do you mean the LIES of the 90s.
They have been pushing that for years. The only violence associated with the militia was Government initiated. A lot of Patriots have been murdered.
A False Flag was blamed on the "militia" and a patsy was tried and convicted.


And it IS expected again.

I agree that liberals through media outlets like MSNBC have been vilifying patriots since the 90s. I did not say I agreed with the article and I did not even read it due to the source ("a liberal web-based political journalism organization").

My point was not to help them by giving TPM traffic by added diggs and that violence at this point would likely play right into their hands which would destroy the mass support we currently have.
 
My point was not to help them by giving TPM traffic by added diggs and that violence at this point would likely play right into their hands which would destroy the mass support we currently have.

If there's to be a 'shot heard 'round the world' I do sincerely hope it isn't one of us that pulls that trigger. I don't want to have to try a case of self-defense in the court of public opinion. I'd rather sell the non-agression axiom unimpeded.
 
I'm sorry, I have to disagree with everyone here.

Sure, he should have the right to carry an automatic rifle wherever he wants but it doesn't make it a good idea. At a political even you should be fighting with ideas. You and I might see this and think that it is a great show of patriotism and exercising rights but everyone else is going to think it is someone trying to bully, intimidate, and end debate.

How would we feel if a bunch of neocons decided to show up at a Ron Paul rally with AKs. This thing just feels like a can of worms that shouldn't be opened.
 
How would we feel if a bunch of neocons decided to show up at a Ron Paul rally with AKs. This thing just feels like a can of worms that shouldn't be opened.

I imagine we would be delighted if neocons suddenly became in favour of open carry and the 2nd amendemnt.
 
I'm sorry, I have to disagree with everyone here.

Sure, he should have the right to carry an automatic rifle wherever he wants but it doesn't make it a good idea. At a political even you should be fighting with ideas. You and I might see this and think that it is a great show of patriotism and exercising rights but everyone else is going to think it is someone trying to bully, intimidate, and end debate.

How would we feel if a bunch of neocons decided to show up at a Ron Paul rally with AKs. This thing just feels like a can of worms that shouldn't be opened.

I see your point, but that's why we just have to start doing it more. If there are 4 or 5 people with guns at every protest, people will just get used to it. That way, the stigma will gradually go away, and there will be less pressure for new gun laws.

As you saw, Chris debated a liberal woman just fine when he had the gun strapped to his back. I think the key thing, as I've been saying for weeks now, is to not come across as angry and disrespectful. The best way to get liberals on our side is through exposure. We need to be seen by them, and we need to talk to them.

And one more thing, we all need to be aware of agent provacatuers. You know if this thing takes off, somebody will try to give a crazy guy a gun and send him to a town hall meeting.
 
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