Black Education Tragedy

[QuickZ06]

One other question--how does someone take notes during a lecture if they don't use cursive? It's much faster to write that way, illegible as it may be to someone else.

I do not know how people still write when you can type faster. But not many still hand write in these days. And more and more schools are using tablets and PC in class below the college level.

 

[tod evans]

I do not know how people still write when you can type faster. But not many still hand write in these days. And more and more schools are using tablets and PC in class below the college level.

I type one-fingered...

It's actually faster for me to write.:o

 

[QuickZ06]

I type one-fingered...

It's actually faster for me to write.:o

You ole chicken pecker

 

[tod evans]

You ole chicken pecker

The moniker given to Naval Corpsman when I was in was "pecker-checker" due to the prevalence of gonorrhea..

 

[Ender]

None of the wealthy kids I taught in a private school, could read or write cursive.

I had them turn assignments in to my classes in cursive, which caused a bit of a ruckus at first. But my experience is that cursive writing helps connect the brain and makes learning easier. This, along with the arts and languages, is a simple way to begin to become whole brain thinkers. Many of them thanked me later.

Technology and computer skills are important and many older folks cannot even handle email, let alone any thing like Adobe or PowerPoint- nevertheless, cursive is an important part of brain development and should not be neglected. I learned to write cursive as a home-schooler and am eternally thankful to my mother for that.

 

[amy31416]

I type 130-150wpm

I'm a fast typer as well, but I draw a lot too and use arrows when I take notes to connect various concepts, box something when the prof is giving a "tell" that something would be on an exam, stuff like that. I suppose there are some adaptations, but I can't imagine it being faster--and I don't like the idea of putting all my "data" on one piece of equipment that could be stolen/lost/fail.

IDK, I think technology will make even writing obsolete as it has with cursive. I think I would rather spend time teaching my kids coding vs. things that will not matter to them in the future. I want to make sure my kids will be advanced enough to be able to fill the new demanding jobs that will exists or have the tools to start their own business. But a big reason is these standardized tests and the studying they do for them is taking up most of the class time.

I'm fine with teaching coding or using programs to create art, but there's something wrong with constantly being "plugged in." I'm not raising my daughter to be a working stiff (though there's nothing wrong with ensuring your kids have all the tools they need), I'm raising her to use her mind and her imagination (I hope.) And nothing beats a handwritten journal that you can take anywhere with you and write anything in, draw anything in, design anything in. Power goes out, no problem. They're generally not stolen, and they don't crash and lose data.

I do not know how people still write when you can type faster. But not many still hand write in these days. And more and more schools are using tablets and PC in class below the college level.

My major was chemistry, so I drew a LOT when taking notes. Many different styles of drawing, from diagramming electrical boards, to molecules, electron movement, etc. I'd have to have a different drawing program for each course, and it'd be difficult to link the text from one program to the drawings in another program.

I guess I'm too much of an old-timer for all this whippersnapper nonsense.

 

[Xhin]

To be fair, I have no idea how to write cursive and I got all A's throughout elementary school. They should really have a refresher course in high school or something if they expect it to be common knowledge.

 

[Xhin]

One other question--how does someone take notes during a lecture if they don't use cursive? It's much faster to write that way, illegible as it may be to someone else.

For me, my print has evolved into a semi-cursive style itself. I can write extremely quickly and it's still (mostly) legible.

 

[juleswin]

My mother still takes notes shorthand...

Nice, I got an A in my shorthand class in high school and up until 2 weeks ago I didn't know that style of writing was called cursive writing. I should buy a "Honk if you know shorthand" and see how many honks I get.

Anyway, I really believe the problem with blacks in education is that the black family is in such a bad state that its unable to cultivate good students. I was a horrible student when I was young, I hated doing my homeworks and preferred playing soccer instead of studying. Luckily for me, I had parents who guided me up until I realized the important of education. They stood beside me during my first years of high school and without then, I could have easily ended up like Jentel.

 

[Pericles]

Personally, I think it's something that parents should teach their kids as a hobby that preserves a tradition. In the next ten years it'll probably be considered "quant," if it isn't already.

I don't care if it's taught in schools.

If nothing else, it is a necessary skill to read historical documents, such as the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. If your only knowledge of such documents is a transcription, and you can't read the original (A) how does one know that the transcription is correct, and (B) does not being able to read the document in the original lead to some loss of spiritual connectivity with the author?

 

[AuH20]

Ummm,

Walter is on point as usual but it's not just blacks that are leaving public school semi-literate...

We're all blacks now. It really is sad when you think about it. They beta tested this tyranny on African-Americans and now it's come full circle. A nation of idiots.

 

[tod evans]

Nice, I got an A in my shorthand class in high school and up until 2 weeks ago I didn't know that style of writing was called cursive writing. I should buy a "Honk if you know shorthand" and see how many honks I get.

Anyway, I really believe the problem with blacks in education is that the black family is in such a bad state that its unable to cultivate good students. I was a horrible student when I was young, I hated doing my homeworks and preferred playing soccer instead of studying. Luckily for me, I had parents who guided me up until I realized the important of education. They stood beside me during my first years of high school and without then, I could have easily ended up like Jentel.

The "shorthand" of which I speak; (Pitman style)

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

The "shorthand" of which I speak; (Pitman style)

ya, not happening. I'd rather write in morse code

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Russian Cyrillic alphabet in cursive:

You'll see variations on this from person to person (as with English script), but everyone uses basically this. I'm a tad sloppier myself, but all the Russians I know can read what I write.

 

[FrankRep]

 

[Nobexliberty]

FrankREP

 

[paulbot24]

Strangely, the art of cursive is still alive and well in our prison system, at least here in Arizona. Maybe if they end up in prison for a while, they can finish off their education. Here's an excerpt from the article and the link below. Talk about irony.

I found an online comment from a California English teacher who said that most of her high-school students can't understand cursive.
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"But the kids I teach who can produce the most lovely cursive are the family members of criminals. Gang members practice gorgeous cursive in prison," she wrote, "then pass it on to their sons and nephews when they get out."
My mother, who was often recruited to write invitations and thank-you notes for the Phoenix Symphony Guild, would turn in her ashes if she knew the future of cursive in these United States was possibly in the hands of gangbangers.


Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...100828cursive-joanie-flatt.html#ixzz2Yb6OWn3q
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[amy31416]

Strangely, the art of cursive is still alive and well in our prison system, at least here in Arizona. Maybe if they end up in prison for a while, they can finish off their education. Here's an excerpt from the article and the link below. Talk about irony.

I found an online comment from a California English teacher who said that most of her high-school students can't understand cursive.
​

"But the kids I teach who can produce the most lovely cursive are the family members of criminals. Gang members practice gorgeous cursive in prison," she wrote, "then pass it on to their sons and nephews when they get out."
My mother, who was often recruited to write invitations and thank-you notes for the Phoenix Symphony Guild, would turn in her ashes if she knew the future of cursive in these United States was possibly in the hands of gangbangers.


Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...100828cursive-joanie-flatt.html#ixzz2Yb6OWn3q
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[paulbot24]

Hey! I know a Kenna! Damn it, she didn't seem that promiscuous.

 

[amy31416]

Hey! I know a Kenna! Damn it, she didn't seem that promiscuous.

Let me guess, she wanted to be your "friend."