Black Americans and Liberty by Walter Williams

Many white people voted for Obama and McCain just because Obama was black.

Very often to prove how un-racist they were. Pathetic.

By the way, the really embarrassing thing about Obama becoming president is that so many black people saw him as the best they had to offer. Just consider how utterly and hair-raisingly pathetic that is. Were I a black man, I would be wearing a paper bag over my head in public (and perhaps even at home) for utter shame and embarrassment that in what for me would have been so historic an event, the best "we" had to offer was this utterly mediocre, corporatist boot licker, grand hypocrite, and traitor to everything my forebears suffered and died for.

Want obscene? There you go, a nice steaming plateful. Bon appetit.
 
Good stuff.

I also get dissappointed from time to time.

With so many things, eh? :)

There were a few decades of true independence

Wow, someone else who sees it. Good on you. They lived under tough conditions in terms of being "Americans", but from my study they had self-respect and that independent-mindedness. That, of course, was utterly unacceptable to those in power, so they proceeded to break out the wrecking gear and have at it. You have to admit that they made a really good job of it.

In my opinion, a lot of blacks just can not fathom the notion of no government looking out for them. It's sad in a way.

Thank the Democrats for that, mainly, the biggest bunch of crypto-racist scum on which you will ever have the displeasure of laying eyes or befouling your nose.

But dont make the mistake of lumping blacks together.

It is a common human failing to falsely categorize in this manner. Most everyone does it, or so it appears.


I think black Americans are more perceptive to libertarian principles than principles of conservative.

Good, if true - I've not seen this. But it makes sense that if a given black person chooses to be clued-in that libertarianism would make the best sense. Conservatism has not been much kinder to black people than has liberalism - they just shank them from the other side of the neck.

For example I also post on a hip hop forum, I am pretty popular there, although I do get into a lot of heated debates, people still value my point of view and I even get some of them interested(most of them black)in the liberty movement.

If you are libertarian-minded, I can well believe that people in the hip-hop thing would often want to take a swag at you. The hip-hop "culture" is revolting, IMO, but that's just me. When I was in college at CCNY (Harlem) I worked at the radio stations (WCCR/WHCR) and was one of a small minority of white d00dz. Most of my friends there were black and hispanic (big surprise, yes?) and we all looked at hip-hop as lame in those days (1980-84). To me it somehow figures that it would become so prominent... but I digress.

A couple even said they would vote for Ron Paul if Obama doesn't pull out of the Midde East in the next 2 years.

Keep working it. You may get some heads out of butts!
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I think there is more untapped potential in getting black Americans in the liberty movement than there is getting them involved in the Tea Parties, or the conservative movement.

The tea parties are a good idea, but it appears that just about everything here gets co-opted eventually. Money is a very long lever. :(

The problem is most of the so called "black leaders" are liberals, so you have a lot of fight against.

Most black "leaders" are traitorous scum. Back in early 85 Jesse Jackson came to my school (I was teaching as MCSM in Spanish Harlem). What a show that bastard put on. He went on about how he had become a drug addict but was a "good" addict because it was prescription drugs and not crack, the big topic du jour in those times.

He then pulled the stunt... got all preacher-daddy-like and asked those kids using drugs to stand up. To my shock, about 200 kids did just that (shock because ghetto kids don't usually fall for lines of shit like that, but I guess 'cause it was Jesse...). Then he went a step further and gathered them around him at the stage (how apropos) and took every name and address.

Later in 10th period, I was having trouble keeping the natives down, so I chose to forgo the lesson and let the kids talk about the visit. "What you think of Jesse?" to which I said "not much." Kids got all quiet and had that "he a racist?" look on their faces. So I got into it with them. Before we knew it, the high was gone and by day's end the kids left my room disillusioned and better for it. It was January and I told them to carefully watch for Jackson's promised help (several of my students were among those to whom Jackson promised help with their drug "problem"). Came the end of the year and naturally nobody had gotten word one from Jackson or one of his representatives. And we talked about that, too, and my boys and girls came to their own conclusions about him and I was glad to see them piece things together for themselves. Jackson, like all others of his ilk, is just a cheap pimp who will use any line of shit if he thinks it will get him what he is after. My kids learned it, and I was sorry that it was that way for them, but better to learn what is true than be deluded.
 
Originally Posted by TheBlackPeterSchiff

I also post on a hip hop forum, I am pretty popular there, although I do get into a lot of heated debates, people still value my point of view and I even get some of them interested(most of them black)in the liberty movement...

A couple even said they would vote for Ron Paul if Obama doesn't pull out of the Midde East in the next 2 years.



Time's kind of up on that withdrawal thing. Any of those people eyeballing Ron yet? Just wondering.
 
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it's the dixie-crats. before they switched to republican, most blacks were republicans. i think when people like strom thurman became players in the gop it was a over for the black vote. maybe i'm wrong but keep this in mind, most black adults to their core are conservatives.
 
The thing is it take a concerted effort, and a lot of people in the liberty movement just dont have the patience or the drive to make that effort.

I've been asked to write articles for blackrepublican.net, although most of the members of that site are black and Hispanic conservatives, some of them are libertarian and I think I take up the offer to give my point of view. Especially how government has fostered a lot of the inequalities we have today, and how free market solutions are the only real solution to minorities gaining more economic freedom and economic power.

We're about at the point where the only color that really matters is green.
 
Dr. Williams needs to meet TheBlackPeterSchiff and BlackTerrel to see that there is fertile recruitment ground in the black community for us

You left me out. Just cause I don't use the word "black" in my user name doesn't make me white. ;)
 
Since this thread was revived today, I wanted to read the article at the link in the OP, but it doesn't seem to be there anymore. Anyone know where I can find it?
 
We, Ron Paulers, have a way to reach out to the Black community that nobody else has access to. The Ron Paul platform is almost identical to the platform of Frederick Douglass. We have an opportunity to truly make history in 2012, but we have to start now. Check out the Frederick Douglass Foundation being run by my good friend Timothy Johnson. Join it if you can spare the FRN's. Learn everything you can about Frederick Douglass, and go out on the canvass and reach out to the Black community with the message of Frederick Douglass and explain why Ron Paul has the exact same platform demonstrated by 30 years worth of a voting record to stand on.

It works. I know it works, because my campaign won all six precincts of downtown Roanoke Rapids -- almost exclusively populated by Black Americans. The point is that to do this we have to start NOW for RP2012. You can't wait until the last minute to have an impact here.

However, if we do have the impact that I know we can, it will make history. It will defang the blatantly false "racist" argument they will again try to bring against him, and it will provide an even stronger impetus for the GOP to continue turning our way.

Don't just talk about it, DO it!

Frederick Douglass Foundation

Frederick Douglass

Canvass, canvass, canvass!

ETA - and yes, the Black community knows who Frederick Douglass is. I may have encountered 2-3% who do not. Every other demographic may not know who he is at all, if they have even ever heard of him in the first place. But the Black community sure knows who he is. Almost as universally as MLK, only FD is more respected than MLK. And yes, the RP platform is pretty much identical to the FD platform, so we can completely maintain our honesty and integrity while doing this.
 
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