Bitcoin trading halted until 10 PM Eastern tonight

"My name is Gaddafi Duck and I am a liberal. If I'm not a liberal, I am and just don't see it. I see other people making more money than me. That just isn't fair. When the rich suffer, I cheer. Everybody must be as miserable as me."

dannno accurately pointed out your agenda on the very first page.
 
The best way to destroy a competing currency is to create digital dollars, buy up bitcoin like they do with bond purchases, then cease buying operations and sell hard into the market. Crash and burn it. It is an easy operation to those who are tasked with defending the premier digital keystroke money. Hell, they don't even have to "mine" their worthless keystroke money.

If I had command of a monopoly dollar program this is what I would do. Saves getting legislation and gets the job done.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this is a part of what is happening right now.

I don't believe that it will have the lasting effect that they are interested in though, in fact I think that it will backfire.
 
Wonder what prices will be around shortly after that exchange opens back up ? I will be running to the airport to pick someone up , so , I will miss that .
 
"My name is Gaddafi Duck and I am a liberal. If I'm not a liberal, I am and just don't see it. I see other people making more money than me. That just isn't fair. When the rich suffer, I cheer. Everybody must be as miserable as me."

dannno accurately pointed out your agenda on the very first page.

lmao--you mad bro? Cuz I pointed out that becoming a Bitcoin fanboy vs. defending Hayekian arguments on competing currencies are mutually exclusive ?

I'm a "liberal," and yet Rothbard is my hero. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
 
I know, sorry. I didn't mean to come off arrogant. But I spend a lot of time warning people about Gox, and simply saying "I told you so" doesn't seem to work.

Ok, don't be sorry, I understand the passion behind the technology and the experience we are all going thru and witnessing. I am not trying to counter anything you said, just expressing my initial reaction to how you came across.

So anyways, my experience with Mt. Gox hasn't been very encouraging. But I will say this, it's definitely been a learning tool regardless of anyone's level of intelligence or experience in markets or trading.

Simply put, no one has ever really seen anything quite like this.
 
For those who doubt competing digital currency, WTF do you think all government run "money" is? It isn't printed anymore, it is created by a computer keystroke.
 
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Wonder what prices will be around shortly after that exchange opens back up ? I will be running to the airport to pick someone up , so , I will miss that .

well, the open exchanges are saying Bitcoin is anywhere from $60 to $75 USD for a Bitcoin. Euro bitcoins are anywhere from 53 euros to 90.

Also, Microsoft stock may trade anywhere from $10 to $50 depending on what exchange. You can't use the NYSE, though, that's lagged up.
 
For those who doubt digital currency, WTF do you think all government run "money" is? It isn't printed anymore, it is created by a computer keystroke.

For all those who don't doubt digital currency, WTF do you think all government run "money" is?
 
I don't quite understand how, if these prices are so lagged as Crystallas suggests, that so many people are coming on here saying they got out at $240/$250 when the price peaked at about $266???

So, the price didn't lag. Otherwise, how were two people in this thread alone able to cash out at those levels when the market quickly plummeted from those highs??

I don't quite understand....so the lag must be overblown. Again, Crystallas convincing himself of his false reality.
 
I love how you're so obtuse you can't discern an attack on a failed attempt at a "currency" from an attack on Hayek's arguments supporting the idea of denationalizing the money supply.

Last I checked, Bitpay and SR are still going strong? What has failed exactly?

Is everything you do in life measured in a 24-48 hour window? 2-4 years from now all these bumps in the road will be long-forgotten.
 
For all those who don't doubt digital currency, WTF do you think all government run "money" is?

As far as I'm concerned digital money can work as long as there isn't any way for raving lunatics babbling 'monetary policy" with the ability to create it with the enter button. And Bitcoin can back itself with any commodity.
 
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well, the open exchanges are saying Bitcoin is anywhere from $60 to $75 USD for a Bitcoin. Euro bitcoins are anywhere from 53 euros to 90.

Also, Microsoft stock may trade anywhere from $10 to $50 depending on what exchange. You can't use the NYSE, though, that's lagged up.

LOL , I am not interested in NYSE or Microsoft, lol
 
lmao--you mad bro? Cuz I pointed out that becoming a Bitcoin fanboy vs. defending Hayekian arguments on competing currencies are mutually exclusive ?

I'm a "liberal," and yet Rothbard is my hero. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I think the fact that all your arguments against BTC are so razor focused on the exchanges that it shows how little you understand BTC or why it has value to so many to begin with.

Hate on incompetent exchanges, that is fine...do what you wish. I hate Comex. But I don't hate on silver for it.

Your finger pointing is reversed.
 
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I think the fact that all your arguments against BTC are so razor focused on the exchanges that it shows how little you understand BTC or why it has value to so many to begin with.

I hate Comex. I don't hate on silver for it.

I do not use Comex , but have nothing against it .
 
I think the fact that all your arguments against BTC are so razor focused on the exchanges that it shows how little you understand BTC or why it has value to so many to begin with.

Hate on incompetent exchanges, that is fine...do what you wish. I hate Comex. But I don't hate on silver for it.

Your finger pointing is reversed.

The reason why I'm razor focused on the exchanges is--BECAUSE!-- *drum roll*

*keep drum rolling*

The exchanges determine the value of Bitcoins! Without the exchanges, you have one guy asking for $20/bitcoin while another asking $200. The time and trouble it would take to matchup and make a "good" deal would make it rather impractical.

This is how the entire food supply of the world works. They use exchanges. Chicago is the dog that wags the tail for much of the global grain trade. Smaller exchanges price off of Chicago. Then, when you're in the middle of Kansas looking to sell wheat, you adjust your price based on the supply/demand around you. That's called the "basis". Basis determines whether your grain is sold at a discount or premium vs. the futures' price in Chicago. Basis does a tug of war between processing plants across small markets in the USA, which all then influence the futures' price in Chicago.

That's how exchanges work. And that's how food is produced, and how the market knows how much to produce and where to send it to based on supply and demand.

So yes, I understand quite well the meat and potatoes behind exchanges, and their importance. Furthermore, I understand that without Mt.Gox, you can still use other exchanges. Without other exchanges, I understand you can still send Bitcoins from wallet-to-wallet. I *get* all that. You seem to think I don't. My point isn't whether you can transfer Bitcoins to people. My point is whether the pricing is efficient, which it's not.

And the exchanges are very, very, VERY much important to the value of your Bitcoins. Without an exchange to draw some sort of figure from, you're left to doing literally peer-to-peer research, which is 18th century stuff. It's why they made exchanges. So when Mt.Gox is on lockdown, that affects the value. So, therefore, everything I've said makes sense and is true. Quit trying to discredit my arguments by saying I don't understand how Bitcoin works, when I clearly do. The value is derived from individuals on Bitcoin's exchanges. If the exchanges are shutdown, Bitcoin transactions become far more cumbersome. The valuations are wildly diverged from person to person, and you have to matchup your buying with another's selling.

This is why exchanges were created.
 
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Then why dislike FRN's? It's all paper since you don't seem to care.

Paladin, without these "paper" exchanges, you'd have no idea what the price of anything would be. Be thankful you have food on the table, because if we didn't have a futures market, there's a good chance you'd be forced to overpay for the food, if any would even exist in your area.
 
This was what, one or two days ago?

So you sold your bitcoins, transfered the money over to your bank, and withdrew it to buy silver, all within a matter of less than 48 hours?

Considering the Fed's banking clearinghouse requires a minimum of 3 days for funds to settle for basic electronic transfers, I'm raising the BS flag :)

I bought the silver with BITCOIN. You are dense as rock.
 
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