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Are bit coins tradeable? If they are then I I guess it does not matter ultimately who invented it. I find it interesting if you have some you want to get rid of PM me and I will send you my wallet address.
 
have anyone experience in bitcoin local payments?

You mean buying bitcoin from a local person? Watch out, the feds have arrested some people for doing that as it can be considered an illegal money transmitting service. It has been a few years since I've seen such a report but it's worth being careful about.
 
You mean buying bitcoin from a local person? Watch out, the feds have arrested some people for doing that as it can be considered an illegal money transmitting service. It has been a few years since I've seen such a report but it's worth being careful about.

Just my .02 but the account you replied to looks very suspect.
 
OMG, NSA speculated about the advent of electronic cash!!!!!!!! as did 1000's of others before it actually came into existence. I'm selling all my bitcoins it's obviously a program by the government to diminish its own power.

I just read several sections of that paper, it all revolves around a central "Bank" controlling deposits and withdraws. So, not even similar at all to bitcoin. Proof of work is probably the most important thing about bitcoin, as it allows the mining process, which gets rid of the need for a central authority to approve transactions, and prevent nefarious situations like double spending (if wait for the transaction to be several blocks deep before counting it as "actually" received).

Every project starts somewhere. That was what the NSA initially started with and it has evolved into what it is today. Or we could put this whole argument to bed if you can show me a picture of Mr. Satoshi. I'll wait....
lol...Why would someone want to put their face on something like that, and open themselves up to legal perse-prosecution? (I guess I'll be waiting just as long before you answer any of my questions...)

cointel

Coincidence?
Extreme confirmation bias might be where most mental disorders come from. (Your comment was in regard to a coin-telegraph link.)

How do programs that can potentially replace banks -- and credit card systems -- benefit bankers, devil21?

Really, deflationary currencies are a threat to a whole way of life.

Crypto-doom-and-gloomers would get more respect from me if they actually learned a little bit about the currency and posed more legitimate concerns. (My biggest concern: They use these logs to "blackbag" individuals charged with money laundering; which, I think they made possible in a recent bill. This has nothing to do with flaws in the currency, though, and everything to do with the flaws in government.)

Just reread this thread from page 1. I've posted plenty of info for years that indicates that cryptos are a banker invention meant to further tighten control. The Rothschilds magazine announced it literally 33 years ago yet *crickets*


Thanks for suggesting I re-read the thread, though! (Initially, when I first read your post, I thought you meant YOU reread it!)

I didn't make it through the whole thing yet, but you were combative and dismissive from the beginning, weren't you? (You were the one who wrote the presumable answers already, so it should be easy for you to remember and direct me to the corresponding, relative posts. You're here to waste your time and mine, though, apparently! [Those answers don't exist; or, your reasoning isn't as solid as you believe it is.])
 
^^^^^^^ blah blah blah. Combative and dismissive because I know how the bankers herd the sheep into their next planned fake money system and have called it in this thread even before Fedcoin/CBDC was made public. Fedcoin is just around the corner and the puzzle pieces are being put into place to regulate the hell out of bitcoin, possibly to the point of being nearly worthless. You think Janet Yellen and Gary Gensler are going to be on your side? LOL

All that is great and thanks for your thoughts but no one has refuted, with any evidence whatsoever, my claim from the start that bitcoin is an NSA/MIT invention or address the 1988 Economist cover that not only told us it was going to happen but even was so bold as to code the fuckin' name they'd push and the even the calendar years they'd push it right into the cover.

The difference between you and me is that I give credit where it is due but you will not. I have said repeatedly that I hope people do well playing with bitcoin and I'm sure some have. Good for them. But know what it is and that the greed comes at a price for everyone else, as you help herd everyone into their next fake money paradigm. You will not, however, give me credit for pegging the bigger agenda from day 1.

 
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^^^^^^^ blah blah blah. Combative and dismissive because I know how the bankers herd the sheep into their next planned fake money system and have called it in this thread even before Fedcoin/CBDC was made public. Fedcoin is just around the corner and the puzzle pieces are being put into place to regulate the hell out of bitcoin, possibly to the point of being nearly worthless. You think Janet Yellen and Gary Gensler are going to be on your side? LOL

All that is great and thanks for your thoughts but no one has refuted, with any evidence whatsoever, my claim from the start that bitcoin is an NSA/MIT invention or address the 1988 Economist cover that not only told us it was going to happen but even was so bold as to code the $#@!in' name they'd push and the even the calendar years they'd push it right into the cover.

The difference between you and me is that I give credit where it is due but you will not. I have said repeatedly that I hope people do well playing with bitcoin and I'm sure some have. Good for them. But know what it is and that the greed comes at a price for everyone else, as you help herd everyone into their next fake money paradigm. You will not, however, give me credit for pegging the bigger agenda from day 1.


Ultimately, their decrees mean nothing without violence.

Bitcoin can either free you from bankers, or help them enslave you. (Really, that's up to you!)

Check out Mr. Robot. (E-Coin -- "FedCoin" -- versus Bitcoin!)

 
Perhaps I'll address your collectivist language and thinking patterns later.
 
Mr. Robot? Yes, let's look to Hollywood for guidance. They surely do not push agendas and predictive programming via television shows.

smh

If you're not a shill, proph, you are very, very uninformed about how the sheep are herded.
 
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Mr. Robot? Yes, let's look to Hollywood for guidance. They surely do not push agendas and predictive programming via television shows.

smh

If you're not a shill, proph, you are very, very uninformed about how the sheep are herded.
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill!"

It's easier to dismiss others and ignore them than have an actual, honest conversation. (You won't even entertain the thought that you might possibly be wrong!)
 
Bitcoin will never work.... I saw a pic of something on a magazine 33 years ago... and like rothchilds and stuff.... oh yeah and bankers made it to destroy the banks. Duh....
 
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill!"

It's easier to dismiss others and ignore them than have an actual, honest conversation. (You won't even entertain the thought that you might possibly be wrong!)

A conversation about what? Seems to me the entire conversation centers on the patently ridiculous notion that something that does not exist has an inherent value. I don't engage in logically delusional conversations. Some people may be greedy enough and delusional enough to believe such a patently and naturally ridiculous premise but not me. Plus, the fact that crypto would be suppressed by the options markets while financial media and MSM in general would be completely ignoring cryptos if it weren't an officially sanctioned banker ponzi, instead of promoting it daily on their propaganda networks.


Bitcoin will never work.... I saw a pic of something on a magazine 33 years ago... and like rothchilds and stuff.... oh yeah and bankers made it to destroy the banks. Duh....

So, ya got nothing. Let me give you the same clue that I gave dannno. If the media gives something lots of coverage, it's because they want you to embrace it. Didn't you learn anything from the "black out Ron Paul" days about how the media treats something that is a threat to the establishment?
 
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A conversation about what? Seems to me the entire conversation centers on the patently ridiculous notion that something that does not exist has an inherent value. I don't engage in logically delusional conversations. Some people may be greedy enough and delusional enough to believe such a patently and naturally ridiculous premise but not me. Plus, the fact that crypto would be suppressed by the options markets while financial media and MSM in general would be completely ignoring cryptos if it weren't an officially sanctioned banker ponzi, instead of promoting it daily on their propaganda networks.

Bitcoin exists.. it is a combination of math, cryptography, computer code and hardware systems that maintains a secure payment processing system using a currency with a small, known, predictable inflation rate.

The media hates BTC, but as it keeps going up they can't just talk bad about it all the time without losing more credibility with their readers. So they put out some stories promoting it so they don't seem too biased, while spending the majority of the time downplaying it.




So, ya got nothing. Let me give you the same clue that I gave dannno. If the media gives something lots of coverage, it's because they want you to embrace it. Didn't you learn anything from the "black out Ron Paul" days about how the media treats something that is a threat to the establishment?

Different situations require different strategies. I didn't think the media could be so dishonest that if Ron Paul came in second place in a state, they would ignore it and pretend it didn't happen.. I knew they were bad, but I didn't know they could be that bad and still maintain what credibility they had. When they did that, it was a big wake-up call.. If Ron Paul had won a few states, I don't think they could have pulled it off, though. I think they would have gone back into attack strategy. At the level he was at, however, they were able to successfully use the ignore strategy.
 
The media hates BTC, but as it keeps going up they can't just talk bad about it all the time without losing more credibility with their readers. So they put out some stories promoting it so they don't seem too biased, while spending the majority of the time downplaying it.

The media does not "hate" bitcoin. What the media (those in charge) hate, is the fact that it is not exclusively regulated [yet], and that they don't get to steal a cut of the pie. But that is being worked on. CoinBase, and others, are incorporating regulation with the government. Excluding the original bitcoiners who understand how BTC can and should be used (outside of government stranglehold), most of the average people hopping onto the crypto bandwagon today are utilizing regulated marketplaces. In the end, regulation will win out, you will be required to pay taxes on any/all crypto, and it will be treated like the FRN. The only difference being is that there is a cap on BTC, keeping in mind that once crypto is widely accepted, any digital currency can be programmed/regulated and will be adopted.

Well, that's my .00000035 satoshis.
 
A conversation about what? Seems to me the entire conversation centers on the patently ridiculous notion that something that does not exist has an inherent value. I don't engage in logically delusional conversations. Some people may be greedy enough and delusional enough to believe such a patently and naturally ridiculous premise but not me. Plus, the fact that crypto would be suppressed by the options markets while financial media and MSM in general would be completely ignoring cryptos if it weren't an officially sanctioned banker ponzi, instead of promoting it daily on their propaganda networks.




So, ya got nothing. Let me give you the same clue that I gave dannno. If the media gives something lots of coverage, it's because they want you to embrace it. Didn't you learn anything from the "black out Ron Paul" days about how the media treats something that is a threat to the establishment?
This conversation:

The media does not "hate" bitcoin. What the media (those in charge) hate, is the fact that it is not exclusively regulated [yet], and that they don't get to steal a cut of the pie. But that is being worked on. CoinBase, and others, are incorporating regulation with the government. Excluding the original bitcoiners who understand how BTC can and should be used (outside of government stranglehold), most of the average people hopping onto the crypto bandwagon today are utilizing regulated marketplaces. In the end, regulation will win out, you will be required to pay taxes on any/all crypto, and it will be treated like the FRN. The only difference being is that there is a cap on BTC, keeping in mind that once crypto is widely accepted, any digital currency can be programmed/regulated and will be adopted.

Well, that's my .00000035 satoshis.
The main drawbacks of cryptocurrencies come from governments, more so than the protocols themselves.
 
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