Birch Society, Buckley, Paul, Goldwater

[0zzy]

Goldwater, the John Birch Society, and Me by William Buckley

In the early months of l962, there was restiveness in certain political quarters of the Right. The concern was primarily the growing strength of the Soviet Union, and the reiteration by its leaders of their designs on the free world. Some of the actors keenly concerned felt that Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona was a natural leader in the days ahead.

But it seemed inconceivable that an anti-establishment gadfly like Goldwater could be nominated as the spokesman-head of a political party. And it was embarrassing that the only political organization in town that dared suggest this radical proposal—the GOP’s nominating Goldwater for President—was the John Birch Society.

The society had been founded in 1958 by an earnest and capable entrepreneur named Robert Welch, a candy man, who brought together little clusters of American conservatives, most of them businessmen. He demanded two undistracted days in exchange for his willingness to give his seminar on the Communist menace to the United States, which he believed was more thoroughgoing and far-reaching than anyone else in America could have conceived. His influence was near-hypnotic, and his ideas wild. He said Dwight D. Eisenhower was a “dedicated, conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy,” and that the government of the United States was “under operational control of the Communist party.” It was, he said in the summer of 1961, “50-70 percent” Communist-controlled.

And apparently Ron Paul subscribes to the John Birch Society's New American.

 

[FrankRep]

I fully support the John Birch Society.

 

[braeden0613]

The new american is a great magazine

 

[LibertyEagle]

I fully support the John Birch Society.

+1

Buckley was not our friend, nor was he a traditional conservative. He led a lot astray.

 

[PathIveMade]

I fully support the John Birch Society.

+1
and The New American is also good.

 

[0zzy]

I'm not with anyone 100%. Interesting story though, and the John Birch Society did say some extreme things, aka, everyone was a communist. Buckley did that too, of course.

 

[dannno]

I'm not with anyone 100%. Interesting story though, and the John Birch Society did say some extreme things, aka, everyone was a communist. Buckley did that too, of course.

Checkout the neoconned series on youtube.. Ron Paul basically says the same thing.. Many people in our government are unknowingly a part of the conspiracy by supporting the policies of those who are... i.e. the Christian Fundamentalist Right following the Neo-conservatives for the last 25 years..

 

[hyoomen]

Interesting. I voice tentative support for JBS & The New American. I'm one of those secularists and social moderates who cautiously nod at the Society's support for liberty, sovereignty, etc. while worrying about the result of aligning myself with an organization that is fiercely Christian and occasionally strays dangerously close to unbridled nationalism.

Good thing they are on our side.

 

[Mr. White]

Interesting. I voice tentative support for JBS & The New American. I'm one of those secularists and social moderates who cautiously nod at the Society's support for liberty, sovereignty, etc. while worrying about the result of aligning myself with an organization that is fiercely Christian and occasionally strays dangerously close to unbridled nationalism.

Good thing they are on our side.

+1

 

[New York For Paul]

I think Buckley had a bigger problem with Welch than with the John Birch Society.

 

[Broadlighter]

I grew up in a household that believed the John Birch Society was a bunch of nutcases. I don't have that attitude anymore. They seem to be very well educated on matters of national sovereignty.

The problem Robert Welch created for the JBS was that he mislabeled Eisenhower's bend toward collectivism. If he had a mature Ed Griffin guiding him in those days I don't think Welch would have made that mistake.

 

[FrankRep]

I'm not with anyone 100%. Interesting story though, and the John Birch Society did say some extreme things, aka, everyone was a communist. Buckley did that too, of course.

There was a large Communist influence within the United States government, including our present day government. The John Birch Society fully documented the evidence they found which suggested that a certain politician or administration official was influenced by Communist / Collectivist ideologies. We can now see the fruit of Communist influence on our present government.

 

[BuddyRey]

I'm a bit leery of the JBS. I agree with them on many issues, namely national sovereignty and gun rights, but to me, they're an example of an organization so eager to quell one form of collectivism that they don't seem all that concerned with guarding themselves against an almost equally malevolent one (i.e. nationalism and religious dominionism).

I mean no offense whatsoever to any of the organization's members, some of whom I know and have found to be individuals of very solid character. But I do wish that the purest proponents of the movement would realize that Communism is but one societal evil, one foot of the multipedal New World Order's complex and nefarious labyrinth of pressure release valves and front movements for both the left and the right.

Fascism and Nazism, which seemingly embraced many of the ideals set fourth by the Populist-Right movements of today (God and country, disdain for multiculturalism and pluralism, etc.) turned out to be as fundamentally evil as Communism in the long run.

None of these traits, or the desires therefor, are fundamentally bad. However, when they are embraced as societal absolutes, and imposed by fiat on an unwilling populace, they amount to nothing more than the approach of Communism utilized to achieve ends that are opposite, but arguably no more or less philosophically justifiable.

 

[klamath]

I'm a bit leery of the JBS. I agree with them on many issues, namely national sovereignty and gun rights, but to me, they're an example of an organization so eager to quell one form of collectivism that they don't seem all that concerned with guarding themselves against an almost equally malevolent one (i.e. nationalism and religious dominionism).

I mean no offense whatsoever to any of the organization's members, some of whom I know and have found to be individuals of very solid character. But I do wish that the purest proponents of the movement would realize that Communism is but one societal evil, one foot of the multipedal New World Order's complex and nefarious labyrinth of pressure release valves and front movements for both the left and the right.

Fascism and Nazism, which seemingly embraced many of the ideals set fourth by the Populist-Right movements of today (God and country, disdain for multiculturalism and pluralism, etc.) turned out to be as fundamentally evil as Communism in the long run.

None of these traits, or the desires therefor, are fundamentally bad. However, when they are embraced as societal absolutes, and imposed by fiat on an unwilling populace, they amount to nothing more than the approach of Communism utilized to achieve ends that are opposite, but arguably no more or less philosophically justifiable.

Good points.

 

[FrankRep]

I'm a bit leery of the JBS. I agree with them on many issues, namely national sovereignty and gun rights, but to me, they're an example of an organization so eager to quell one form of collectivism that they don't seem all that concerned with guarding themselves against an almost equally malevolent one (i.e. nationalism and religious dominionism).

I mean no offense whatsoever to any of the organization's members, some of whom I know and have found to be individuals of very solid character. But I do wish that the purest proponents of the movement would realize that Communism is but one societal evil, one foot of the multipedal New World Order's complex and nefarious labyrinth of pressure release valves and front movements for both the left and the right.

Fascism and Nazism, which seemingly embraced many of the ideals set fourth by the Populist-Right movements of today (God and country, disdain for multiculturalism and pluralism, etc.) turned out to be as fundamentally evil as Communism in the long run.

None of these traits, or the desires therefor, are fundamentally bad. However, when they are embraced as societal absolutes, and imposed by fiat on an unwilling populace, they amount to nothing more than the approach of Communism utilized to achieve ends that are opposite, but arguably no more or less philosophically justifiable.

About the John Birch Society

Ever since its founding in 1958 by Robert Welch, The John Birch Society has been dedicated to restoring and preserving freedom under the United States Constitution.

Members come from all walks of life and are active throughout the 50 states on local, regional and national levels.

United by a strong belief in personal freedom and limited government, plus a sense of duty, members of The John Birch Society have educated millions of Americans on the appropriate role of government. Using educational and concerted action tools of a wide variety — including local lobbying, distribution of literature, email campaigns, news conferences, petitions, and more — members have played a continuous, pivotal role in halting legislation and federal policies that threaten the independence of our country and our people.

For almost 50 years, the Society has educated and informed its members and others, who have worked together to bring about major changes in national policy. Activity at the national level is guided by the organization's home office in Appleton, Wisconsin.

A national network of local chapters initiates communications projects and implements the programs outlined in the monthly JBS Bulletin, the member newsletter. Activity at the local and regional levels is guided by professional Field Coordinators who provide the benefit of their knowledge and experience.

Explore our website, learn more about The John Birch Society, consider joining, and then work with us to help fulfill our mission:
To bring about less government, more responsibility, and — with God’s help — a better world by providing leadership, education, and organized volunteer action in accordance with moral and Constitutional principles.

SOURCE:
http://www.jbs.org/about



The John Birch Society hasn't deviated from the principles of protecting the Constitutional Republic from my personal experience of being involved in the JBS. Any Unconstitutional action by the government will be protested by the John Birch Society, not just Communistic / Collectivist actions.

 

[kigol]

good post

 

[Todd]

Interesting. I voice tentative support for JBS & The New American. I'm one of those secularists and social moderates who cautiously nod at the Society's support for liberty, sovereignty, etc. while worrying about the result of aligning myself with an organization that is fiercely Christian and occasionally strays dangerously close to unbridled nationalism.

Good thing they are on our side.

don't forget a strange history of racism. I'm still skeptical of this.

 

[FrankRep]

don't forget a strange history of racism. I'm still skeptical of this.

That was just a smear campaign, like the smear campaign against Ron Paul. The John Birch Society is not racist. Anyone is welcome to join and fight for the Constitution.

Here's an interesting story:


Jewish JBS Leader Weighs in on Recent Attacks on the Society

John Birch Society
March 7, 2008

David Eisenberg, a member of the National Council of the John Birch Society, comments on the misperception that JBS is anti-Semitic.

Read:
http://www.jbs.org/node/7351

 

[itshappening]

JBS has a huge role to play with the threat of the North American Union, McCain as the Republican nominee etc. their campaigns will be very important and lasting...

 

[0zzy]

To me, I could use them as a valued source.

However, if I ever run for office or when I am in public I won't be saying the things they say. Not to the extreme, at least. They reason they are marginalized is because at events they'd talk about the Illuminati or whatever conspiracy which may or may not be true. They can do that, though. Just saying, most of society today is brainwashed to debate such issues.