Bill Nye: Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children

One thing, Nye, IMO is talking about all forms of evolution not just species evolution. He mentions stars being in different stages of development. He's just talking in extremes because the subject is really a fringe subject when you think about it. If some one believes that the earth was created a few thousand years ago, I discredit you for even wanting to debate them. lol, Nye is discrediting him self just by doing this.
 
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The root question behind the debate about creationism is, "Have miracles ever happened?".

That's a religious question. If you answer it "yes," you're revealing a religious conviction. If you answer it "no," you're also revealing a religious conviction.

Nye wants kids only to be taught his religion.
 
He apparently is defending the video.

http://www.examiner.com/article/bill-nye-the-science-guy-defends-anti-creationist-video

Turning to current events to illustrate his point, Nye focused on Hurricane Issac, stating that “this morning, talking about Hurricane Isaac, and we're watching satellite maps made with spacecraft orbiting the earth, and this all comes from science. If you have this idea that the earth is only 6,000 years old, you are denying, if you will, everything that you can touch and see. You're not paying attention to what's happening in the universe around you. As I say, this is bad for kids."

Basically, Nye is saying that people can believe in whatever they want to in terms of religion, but that religion should not be confused with science.

As for what is supposed to be taught in schools, Ohio has implemented academic content standards for all core school subjects, including science. The goal of these standards is to ensure that teachers are teaching the same content in every school at any given grade level. By looking at the Ohio science standards, one sees no reference to creationism/intelligent design, only evolution, to which there are over a dozen in just the high school grades alone. Besides scientific facts, the Ohio standards also emphasize the scientific method, which makes no room for including one's preconceived notions in scientific research.
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Arguing what should or should not be taught to children in public schools is a fools game.

Children are smart and inquisitive and should be presented with as much evidence, history and theories as their minds can absorb....

When tempered with a modicum of common sense and a push to form their own opinions most kids do okay...

It's only when mandates dictate certain agendas be promoted that the kids are adversely effected.
 
QuickZ06 said:
Its funny seeing people fight over "theories" calming they are facts.
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I feel like some of the people in this thread didn't pay attention in school.

Theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking. Depending on the context, the results might for example include generalized explanations of how nature works, or even how divine or metaphysical matters are thought to work.
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A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment." Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy.
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Evolution isn't a scientific theory?

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tod evans said:
Arguing what should or should not be taught to children in public schools is a fools game.

Children are smart and inquisitive and should be presented with as much evidence, history and theories as their minds can absorb....

When tempered with a modicum of common sense and a push to form their own opinions most kids do okay...

It's only when mandates dictate certain agendas be promoted that the kids are adversely effected.
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So true story from last night.
I'm making dinner, and Pandora is serving up a 1997 recording of Iron Man, and in the beginning of it Ozzy is straight sailor talk.
So I turn to my 5-yo daughter and say "Man, he's really using a lot of inappropriate words."
"What did he say?"
"Well, he's saying 'fuck' a lot."
"What does 'fuck' mean?"
"It's just about the worst word you can say. At least, when you say it, people think to themselves 'Man, that's a bad word.' So you should avoid saying it."

And two minutes later when they finally started playing, she's knocking her knuckles on the table to duh... dut... duh-dut duh with the beat.
I've never witnessed her keeping a beat before that, despite seriously working with her on it - and if I followed the Bill Nye method of protecting children, I still wouldn't have.
 
fisharmor said:
So true story from last night.
I'm making dinner, and Pandora is serving up a 1997 recording of Iron Man, and in the beginning of it Ozzy is straight sailor talk.
So I turn to my 5-yo daughter and say "Man, he's really using a lot of inappropriate words."
"What did he say?"
"Well, he's saying 'fuck' a lot."
"What does 'fuck' mean?"
"It's just about the worst word you can say. At least, when you say it, people think to themselves 'Man, that's a bad word.' So you should avoid saying it."

And two minutes later when they finally started playing, she's knocking her knuckles on the table to duh... dut... duh-dut duh with the beat.
I've never witnessed her keeping a beat before that, despite seriously working with her on it - and if I followed the Bill Nye method of protecting children, I still wouldn't have.
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Did we watch different videos?
 
QuickZ06 said:
Good question, and I can see how micro-evolution could be explained but I do think science has been hijacked for special interests by certain power hungry groups so there is that to take in consideration.

Isan't science merely a observational opinion and nothing more?

If you "know" anything please tell and explain, as I am wanting to know what is on anyones mind pertaining to this subject.
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No. Scientists are often very creative. Until I got a home study course on physics, I thought that science was very straight-forward and just followed the Scientific Method. But in reality, scientists will create ideas out of nothing and then go back to use method to test it. Einstein thought up Relativity in his head and was guided at first entirely by aesthetics.
 
jmdrake said:
I believe the point being made is that knowledge in general should be put in an "inappropriate for children" category. Anyway, Bill Nye is an idiot and not appropriate for free thinkers.
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Bill Nye is extremely intelligent. He's just a statist. Being a statist doesn't making you an idiot, it makes you of a different opinion.
 
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