Bill Gates says we can lower the population through vaccines and medicine

[Noob]

Since Bill Gates wants to reduce the population, I nominate him to lead by example. Him first, along with all of the other population reduction nutcases.

The odds are they wont do that. But rather have everybody ulse do it, without them even knowing that they are doing it.

 

[tropicangela]

It could be flawed, but it could easily not be flawed, and there is a large body of evidence that in simplistic terms it is not. It could be that the large increase in the number of vaccines given at too young of an age is causing a large increase of problems. Not enough research has been done on that it seems. It could be that the way vaccines are manufactured has changed significantly and are more toxic now. It could be that vaccines are virtually ineffective and that child mortality decreases are solely due to improved hygienics as some claim, but the data I've seen by those that claim that is also flawed.
Whatever the argument is ones side is done a disservice if it does not correctly state the other sides position and adequately address it.

Comparing two charts next to each other, as on the Gates page, with one saying that infant mortality went down (supposedly because of vaccine efficacy) and claiming that it directly relates to a decrease in fertility (because ppl are more confident their kids won't die) is not conclusive enough to me.

I read a blurb on his other nutrition web page about how his foundation promotes breastfeeding, but there were no specifics on exactly how they go about doing that. Run a search on his website for "breastfeed" or "breast feed" and see what comes up. Now run a search on his site for "vaccine" and see what comes up.

He doesn't mention breastfeeding once on that "preventing childhood deaths" web page as good prevention. Instead, he promotes vaccines, vaccines, vaccines. Of course, he wouldn't be able to purchase stock in a mother's breastmilk...

He is a Nestle shareholder. Does the Nestle boycott have anything to do with the reduction of infant mortality over the years? Perhaps improved breastfeeding rates? http://www.breastfeeding.com/advocacy/advocacy_boycott.html

When women exclusively breastfeed, it's a good form of birth control and child spacing... when women start using formula right away they can have more babies right away. Gates doesn't address breastfeeding rates on his infant mortailty chart OR his fertility chart.

 

[tropicangela]

On the note of GMO...

Bill Gates Blames Hunger in Africa on Anti-GMO Environmentalists

DES MOINES, Iowa, Oct 15 (Reuters) - The fight to end hunger is being hurt by environmentalists who insist that genetically modified crops cannot be used in Africa, Bill Gates, the billionaire founder of software giant Microsoft, said on Thursday. http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19384.cfm

Here is his web page promoting agriculture (sounds harmless enough on the cover)
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/agriculturaldevelopment/pages/default.aspx

 

[moostraks]

Thought this was interesting in light of the current discussion:

Gates Foundation gives $1.5 bln for women's health
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65658R20100608

"The program aims to cut across the "silos" of health initiatives focused on one thing -- AIDS, for example, or nutrition -- and get broader initiatives into place.

"That is in addition to grants that we already make in vaccines, diarrhea, malaria," Melinda Gates told reporters.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said he would try to focus the Group of 20 meeting in Toronto later this month on the subject, adding the goal is to raise $15 billion.

"We may need an additional $45 billion by 2015," Ban said.

Ban and Gates described a comprehensive approach through 2014 to help women deliver babies safely and plan healthy families with access to contraception, while incorporating current vaccination and nutrition programs"

 

[MelissaWV]

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"That is in addition to grants that we already make in ... diarrhea ....

I'm sorry, that needed attention drawn to it

 

[Noob]

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_20908.cfm

Ban All GMOs!

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2049

 

[tropicangela]

Ban All GMOs!

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2049

Who should ban them? The FDA? No thanks.