Big game backlash: Protests against celebrity hunter Melissa Bachman mount

[specsaregood]

It's the smiling that's the fuse on this. It's fucked up to be happy about killing something, especially such a beautiful and majestic creature.

A bloodthirsty killing machine creature. That lion would be smiling just as wide if the roles were reversed.

 

[shane77m]

Really? I thought the reason they did that was because muzzle loader season opens 1-2weeks earlier in the year.

That's why the use them around here. I think the only hunter I have ever heard talk about some mystical experience while hunting is Ted Nugent.

 

[phill4paul]

Even in death that Lion is a hell of a lot more beautiful than that cunt. What drives ignorant assholes to hunt that which they
1) Do not eat.
2) Do not have a need to protect there food source from.
3) Does not threaten themselves or their progeny.

 

[Ender]

Are you seriously comparing hunting an animal to killing people using drones?

Yes.

As phill4paul stated:

Even in death that Lion is a hell of a lot more beautiful than that cunt. What drives ignorant assholes to hunt that which they
1) Do not eat.
2) Do not have a need to protect there food source from.
3) Does not threaten themselves or their progeny.

The only reason to kill one of God's creatures is for food or safety; never for pride or tax gains.

 

[goliberty78]

Even in death that Lion is a hell of a lot more beautiful than that cunt. What drives ignorant assholes to hunt that which they
1) Do not eat.
2) Do not have a need to protect there food source from.
3) Does not threaten themselves or their progeny.

Did you not read the post? They do eat the meat, and the kill was part of area conservation, which most likely includes protecting food sources/themselves/their progeny. If she was simply killing the animal and leaving it to rot, then yea that would be crappy. And all you complaining that she has a smile...what's she supposed to do? Frown? She just helped with area conservation and accomplished something many people only dream of. As for it being a guided hunt, again...what's the supposed to do? Go tromping around areas she knows nothing about? The guides are there for more reasons than just getting her a shot opportunity. What drives ignorant assholes to complain about something they obviously know nothing about?

 

[eduardo89]

Did you not read the post? They do eat the meat, and the kill was part of area conservation, which most likely includes protecting food sources/themselves/their progeny. If she was simply killing the animal and leaving it to rot, then yea that would be crappy. And all you complaining that she has a smile...what's she supposed to do? Frown? She just helped with area conservation and accomplished something many people only dream of. As for it being a guided hunt, again...what's the supposed to do? Go tromping around areas she knows nothing about? The guides are there for more reasons than just getting her a shot opportunity. What drives ignorant assholes to complain about something they obviously know nothing about?

+rep

 

[James Madison]

Should have just shot a cow. Then it'd be ok.

 

[eduardo89]

Should have just shot a cow. Then it'd be ok.

Then you'd have millions of angry Hindus signing a petition.

 

[James Madison]

Then you'd have millions of angry Hindus signing a petition.

Good call.

What about chickens? Those are ok to kill, right?

 

[eduardo89]

Good call.

What about chickens? Those are ok to kill, right?

 

[jonhowe]

A bloodthirsty killing machine creature. That lion would be smiling just as wide if the roles were reversed.

Seriously? Animals hunt to eat. The idea of killing for fun is disgusting. Hunting is disgusting.

 

[jonhowe]

Did you not read the post? They do eat the meat, and the kill was part of area conservation, which most likely includes protecting food sources/themselves/their progeny. If she was simply killing the animal and leaving it to rot, then yea that would be crappy. And all you complaining that she has a smile...what's she supposed to do? Frown? She just helped with area conservation and accomplished something many people only dream of. As for it being a guided hunt, again...what's the supposed to do? Go tromping around areas she knows nothing about? The guides are there for more reasons than just getting her a shot opportunity. What drives ignorant assholes to complain about something they obviously know nothing about?

They JUSTIFY their hunt by using it to 'fund conservation'. They are not hunting these animals IN ORDER to conserve (or eat) them. If they want to avoid losing livestock, they should build fences or leave (and that's what this is really about.

Sick.

 

[Origanalist]

You want to see senseless slaughter and waste?

A contemporary postcard shows what remained after a herd of buffalo was slaughtered; buffalo skulls piled on grassland, somewhere in Michigan.

Slaughtered mercilessly from the 1870s on, the buffalo population plummeted. By 1893 less than 400 buffalo remained throughout the Great Plains. Crippled by the scarcity of bison, the culture of the Plains Indians and other neighboring tribes began to unravel.

A primary source of food protein, nomadic housing and clothing in the form of warm blankets and countless ceremonial objects, the death of the buffalo eroded many Native American communities from within. The American government uprooted tribes, forcing them to relocate to designated reservations. The American settlers devastated the physical and spiritual livelihood of the Native American tribes. The results were tragic. “When the buffalo went away, the hearts of my people fell to the ground,” records Crow Chief Plenty [Coups] (otherwise known as Aleek-chea-ahoosh) in his personal biography. “After this, nothing happened. There was little singing anywhere.”
http://search.babylon.com/imageres....=833&q=slaughtered+buffalo&babsrc=SP_ss_din2g

This woman, while distasteful to some, is actually helping conservation.

 

[Origanalist]

They JUSTIFY their hunt by using it to 'fund conservation'. They are not hunting these animals IN ORDER to conserve (or eat) them. If they want to avoid losing livestock, they should build fences or leave (and that's what this is really about.

Sick.

“We do ethical hunting and all meat from animals hunted is distributed to the local community," a post on Maroi's Facebook page reads. "Funds generated from hunting goes towards fixing the border fence that was washed away in the 2013 floods, combating poaching, which is excessive in this area due to close proximity to Zimbabwe, and running a sustainable conservancy."

Have you really no idea how hunting and hunters help with conservation?

 

[eduardo89]

This woman, while distasteful to some, is actually helping conservation.

In a true free market this is how you keep animals from extinction and preserve wilderness. Make it profitable to keep them alive and make it profitable to conserve their habitat.

 

[goliberty78]

They JUSTIFY their hunt by using it to 'fund conservation'. They are not hunting these animals IN ORDER to conserve (or eat) them. If they want to avoid losing livestock, they should build fences or leave (and that's what this is really about.

Sick.

Can you provide some proof that they are lying? That they don't actually provide food for the locals? That they don't actually use the funds to accomplish conservation tasks such as rebuilding the ruined fences as they stated in the article? Or are you just making assumptions because you don't like hunting?

 

[Ender]

Can you provide some proof that they are lying? That they don't actually provide food for the locals? That they don't actually use the funds to accomplish conservation tasks such as rebuilding the ruined fences as they stated in the article? Or are you just making assumptions because you don't like hunting?

Ummm...these are politicians saying this right? Only US politicians lie?

 

[goliberty78]

“We do ethical hunting and all meat from animals hunted is distributed to the local community," a post on Maroi's Facebook page reads. "Funds generated from hunting goes towards fixing the border fence that was washed away in the 2013 floods, combating poaching, which is excessive in this area due to close proximity to Zimbabwe, and running a sustainable conservancy."

Have you really no idea how hunting and hunters help with conservation?

+rep

 

[goliberty78]

Ummm...these are politicians saying this right? Only US politicians lie?

He accused them of not doing what they said they're doing...without any proof to back it up.

 

[Origanalist]

Ummm...these are politicians saying this right? Only US politicians lie?

I don't think so;

Maroi Conservancy is getting a lot of hate mail from all around the world regarding the Melissa Bachman lion hunt. If I can clarify a couple of facts:

Maroi Conservancy is based in the Limpopo Province, 30 km from Musina, right next to the Limpopo Border. We are operating on 8500 hectares. All the game on the conservancy is free roaming and occur here naturally.

Our motto is "conservation through sustainable hunting".

We do ethical hunting and all meat from animals hunted is distrubuted to the local community. Funds generated from hunting goes towards fixing the border fence that was washed away in the 2013 floods; combating poaching which is excessive in this area due to close proximaty to ZImbabwe and running a sustainable conservancy. We have lost 2 eland, 4 giraffes and numerous other animals in the past 2 months that were killed by spears and dogs. We control our game numbers to prevent starvation of animals.

We have hunters from all over the world and all game hunting is done ethically on Maroi as per guidelines from Nature Conservation.

We had Melissa Bachman hunting plains game at Maroi in the past month. She was assisted by our PH Julious Heyneke. On her wish list was a lion. There are no lions on Maroi as they do not occur here naturallly. We contacted a outfitter in the North West Province and we faciltated the hunt for Melissa. We paid over the monies for the hunt to them and Melissa was tranported to Zeerust. We did not benefit financially by this hunt.

All documentation were in place for this hunt eg permits etc as required by Nature Conservation. The lion was not drugged or enclosed in a camp. It was free roaming on more than 2000 hectares. Melissa is a professional hunter and in no way is she involved in dubious practices.

We are not apologising for facilitating the hunt. As for all the negative commentary towards us, please consider how much you have contributed to conservation in the past 5 years. If you are not a game farmer and struggling with dying starving animals, poaching and no fences in place to protect your animals and crop, please refrain from making negative degoratory comments. It is so easy to judge if you are staying in cities and towns, buying your meat at 'woolies' and going to game reserves maybe once a year.

It is a fact, that due to the hunting industry and money generated out of this industry, there are more animals in South Africa than 100 years ago.

Any journalists are welcome to contact us to clarify facts.
https://www.facebook.com/maroi.conservancy/posts/550430031706577