Biden on self-defense: ‘Get yourself a shotgun

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Biden on self-defense: ‘Get yourself a shotgun

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/biden-self-defense-yourself-shotgun-201933598--politics.html

Are you looking into buying an assault weapon for protection after a devastating natural disaster (or the coming Zombie Apocalypse) plunges society into deadly anarchy? You’ve got it all wrong, Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday: Get yourself a shotgun.

Biden, doing a Google+ “hangout” to promote President Barack Obama’s proposals for battling gun violence, had been asked whether a new assault weapons ban might infringe on the Second Amendment rights of those who want one “as a last line of defense” to fend off looters after “some terrible natural disaster.”

“Guess what? A shotgun will keep you a lot safer, a double-barreled shotgun, than the assault weapon in somebody’s hands [who] doesn’t know how to use it, even one who does know how to use it,” the outspoken vice president, a shotgun owner himself, replied. “It’s harder to use an assault weapon to hit something than it is a shotgun. You want to keep people away in an earthquake? Buy some shotgun shells.”

With the fate of Obama’s gun violence proposals unclear in the face of stiff opposition from most Republicans and some Democrats, Biden urged supporters of ideas like imposing a new assault weapons ban, limiting ammunition clips to 10 rounds and toughening background checks to pressure their elected representatives. “This town listens when people rise up and speak,” Biden said.

Like Obama before him, the vice president emphasized that he's a firm believer in the Second Amendment—but compared proposed new curbs on assault weapons to keeping fully-equipped F-15 fighter jets off the market.

“You have an individual right to own a weapon both for recreation, for hunting and also for your self-protection,” he said. "But just as you don’t have an individual right to go out and buy an F-15—if you’re a billionaire—with ordnance on it, just like you don’t have the right to buy an M-1 tank, just like you don’t have a right to buy an automatic weapon" you should not be able to get other weapons for which there is "no reasonable societal justification, or constitutional justification."

Biden noted that "it's not about keeping bad guns out of the hands of good people, it's about keeping all guns out of the hands of bad people. There should be rational limits."

One of Biden's questioners asked why, if they're rational, there's the lack of political will to enact them.

Biden paused, then said he would have to watch his words. “Both left and right sometimes take absolutist positions," he said.

The vice president emphasized that the administration was not calling for armed guards in schools, a proposal recently floated by the National Rifle Association. Instead, schools would have the flexibility to hire a uniformed guard, armed or not, if they so desired.

But Biden warned it would be a "terrible mistake" to arm school staff. "The last thing we need to do is be arming schoolteachers and administrators" who may not have firearm training, he said.
 
“Guess what? A shotgun will keep you a lot safer, a double-barreled shotgun, than the assault weapon in somebody’s hands [who] doesn’t know how to use it, even one who does know how to use it,” the outspoken vice president

So he is saying that we should ban double barrel shotguns instead of 'assault' weapons?

This guy. Rofl.
 
And what if you are facing an assault by 6 to 12 heavily armed and armored individuals that are intent on doing you harm?

Shotguns are good defensive weapons,, but I would rather have an M60. or perhaps a lighter full auto weapon.
 
“You have an individual right to own a weapon both for recreation, for hunting and also for your self-protection,” he said. "But just as you don’t have an individual right to go out and buy an F-15—if you’re a billionaire—with ordnance on it, just like you don’t have the right to buy an M-1 tank, just like you don’t have a right to buy an automatic weapon" you should not be able to get other weapons for which there is "no reasonable societal justification, or constitutional justification."

This guy is a soundbite/meme a sentence.
 
And what if you are facing an assault by 6 to 12 heavily armed and armored individuals that are intent on doing you harm?

Shotguns are good defensive weapons,, but I would rather have an M60. or perhaps a lighter full auto weapon.
Ha. My dreams of ever owning an M60 went out the window long, long ago. Last I checked, an E3 is what- $40,000-$50,000? Even if money wasn't the issue I could never see myself agreeing to those SOBs searching my house any time they please. I'll happily just stick to an M14 and a few beta mags.
 
And what if you are facing an assault by 6 to 12 heavily armed and armored individuals impersonating police officers that are intent on doing you harm?

Shotguns are good defensive weapons,, but I would rather have an M60. or perhaps a lighter full auto weapon.

FIFY
 
SURE!

I'll take a saiga 12 w/ a drum mag!

no, really. i want one & CANT find one...

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SURE!

I'll take a saiga 12 w/ a drum mag!

no, really. i want one & CANT find one...

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No. He said Double Barrel. Of course he didn't specify whether over/under of side by side. So he may have really meant a quad barrel. :D

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ETA: Bah other image to large. :p
 
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I have a shotgun, but if my enemy is within shotgun range, things are already not going the way I would prefer.
 
biden said:
just like you don’t have a right to buy an automatic weapon
Problem is, Joe, Americans did have that right for better than 50 years.

And what if you are facing an assault by 6 to 12 heavily armed and armored individuals that are intent on doing you harm?

I'm pretty sure Biden's well aware that in that scenario they're most likely his guys.
 
And what if you are facing an assault by 6 to 12 heavily armed and armored individuals that are intent on doing you harm?

Shotguns are good defensive weapons,, but I would rather have an M60. or perhaps a lighter full auto weapon.

If you are going up against a large group of hostiles... yes... forget the M-16 or FN FAL... you're going to want an M-60 (full auto, belt fed 7.62X51 NATO)! Something that rocks and rolls.
 
I saw a comment on the Yahoo news story suggesting that, if this is Biden's true feelings, then he arm his own security detail with only shotguns.
 
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