Biden admin to announce 6-prong anti-COVID plan

acptulsa said:
Don't let anyone lie flat until the chest congestion goes away. Pneumonia is the killer here, and this will prevent it.
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Yep. And if your doctor won't prescribe an antibiotic, call around until you find one who will. When I was first diagnosed with COVID last year I immediately called my primary doctor and asked for a 'just in case' prescription for antibiotics, in case it got worse. Well, she refused. Lo and behold over the weekend, when her office was closed, I worsened. Went to the ER for a chest xray and sure enough it showed mild bilateral pneumonia. I was given 1 round of IV antibiotics in the ED and a script for azithromax.

I know a lot of doctors are reluctant to prescribe antibiotics too soon but early treatment really was key, I think, in preventing me from being hospitalized.
 
belian78 said:
You were the one within hours of this all dropping that was in here telling everyone EXCATLY what they'd experience once they contracted the convids. Quite the journey you've made in just 18 months. Or....
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I told people the symptoms I was seeing in the ED. I thought perhaps those of us on the forums that don't spend our time running down rabbit holes until we come out the other side only to start all over again, would like to know what they might expect if they get sick.

If I didn't care about y'all at least a little bit, I wouldn't have wasted my time.

Although, you personally? I am starting to not really care about. I know you don't care that I don't care.

I'm tired of reading your s*^# post F.U.D. nonsense, and I'm tired of you acting like you are some sage who has precognition of every single step the elites have planned out, and every-fking-body-else is "being played."

I haven't worked as a nurse since last Thanksgiving. I'm glad I quit, because it did allow me to see what was happening outside of my ED world-view. That said, people are still getting sick, and early treatment to avoid hospitalization is worth discussing.

And don't bother replying for my sake, you're on my ignore list because I'm just fed up with your shit.
 
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nobody's_hero said:
I told people the symptoms I was seeing in the ED. I thought perhaps those of us on the forums that don't spend our time running down rabbit holes until we come out the other side only to start all over again, would like to know what they might expect if they get sick.

If I didn't care about y'all at least a little bit, I wouldn't have wasted my time.

Although, you personally? I am starting to not really care about. I know you don't care that I don't care.

I'm tired of reading your s*^# post F.U.D. nonsense, and I'm tired of you acting like you are some sage who has precognition of every single step the elites have planned out, and every-fking-body-else is "being played."

I haven't worked as a nurse since last Thanksgiving. I'm glad I quit, because it did allow me to see what was happening outside of my ED world-view. That said, people are still getting sick, and early treatment to avoid hospitalization is worth discussing.

And don't bother replying for my sake, you're on my ignore list because I'm just fed up with your $#@!.
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What advice do you recommend for early treatment? Any recommendations of medicines, supplements, etc.? I know Ivermectin is recommend by some, but I don't know where to get it. I want to be prepared for me and my family in case we get COVID.
 
sdsubball23 said:
What advice do you recommend for early treatment? Any recommendations of medicines, supplements, etc.? I know Ivermectin is recommend by some, but I don't know where to get it. I want to be prepared for me and my family in case we get COVID.
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First off, I'd buy a pulse oximeter for your household. You can get them for about $20. Even the cheap ones are about as accurate as the ones we use in the hospital. My respiratory therapy friends would sneer at me for dumbing it down, but in simplest terms it tells you how oxygenated your blood is. There's way more to it than that, but all you really need to know is that it helps with monitoring.

Stick it on a finger, and it displays a percentage and a heart rate. Check it when you are in good health so you know what your baseline is. Roughly 96-100% for normal healthy adults. Before I drove to the ED, mine had dropped to 91% so I knew something was going on and that's when I decided I probably at least needed a chest xray. If you have lung disease like COPD your baseline might be as low as 89%, and that would be 'your' 'normal'. If you get hit with COVID, keep an eye out for drops. If you are feeling short of breath and the numbers aren't showing what is "normal" for you, that's when you need to let your doctor know. It's a really easy-to-use device that can, at least somewhat, help you figure out whether it's anxiety, or something more serious. Frankly if I hadn't had one at home, I would have probably brushed off feeling short of breath as standard symptoms. But the numbers tell the rest of the story. You don't want to be showing up to the hospital to find out that you're satting 70% or worse, when you'd be 95% on a good day, so I suggest getting one for personal use so you can keep track of it before it gets anywhere near that point. Unfortunately one of the problems we had was that people wouldn't show up UNTIL they were that low, but of course they had no way of knowing. It's worth the $20.

Kids tend to maintain, maintain, maintain and crash their oxygen saturation, so it's not quite as useful on them, but thankfully kids tend to do better with COVID (or at least they were when I was working), so there's that.

As far as medications go, it's not really a nurse's scope of practice to recommend those, so I'm not going to suggest Ivermectin, especially for off-label use. I'm not against those meds by any means, but you really need to get that kind of information from a doctor. I didn't go to med school and really don't know enough about it. Then again finding a doctor in the USA who is genuinely interested in alternative treatments like Ivermectin is not exactly easy.

I will mention some of the non-prescription stuff I was taking based on early protocols, which has probably changed since I left (I was using the protocols bedside doctors practically scribbled on a kleenex in the first few weeks, when they were having to figure all this stuff out through networking, before they started the more "approved" protocols).

I'm an adult. Keep that in mind.

vitamins/minerals I started taking were zinc 220mg, vitamin C 500mg in the morning and another 500mg @ night (this is way over daily recommendation, my nurse manager claims he was taking 3,000 mg/day of Vitamin C when COVID first hit, take too much and it might give you diarrhea, no big deal unless you're fighting off a fever and/or already have diarrhea, and dehydration is a potential risk). Magnesium 250mg/day as a mild muscle relaxant, could be increased to 500mg if you're really sore (also helps somewhat with headaches). Aspirin 81 mg (if you're already on blood thinners, ask a doc).

Vitamin D. - - - I'd go ahead get it checked while you're healthy. Your doctor will laugh at you, because no one on God's green earth ever checks a Vitamin D level, but just about everyone in America has vitamin D deficiency. If you get your results back and it's low, your doctor will probably be like, "well, I'll be damned." This is one that you can get toxicity from (though rare), so it's better to go with lab work for dose recommendations. My D levels were abysmal prior to getting infected with COVID so I was already on prescription strength capsules.

This sounds obvious and cliché, but drink plenty of fluids. Water. No one drinks 8 cups a day, but supposedly that's the recommendation for an adult, barring any history of heart failure. You can throw in a fancy electrolyte sports drink every now and then, if you aren't eating much, but water makes up the bulk of it. Watch your pee. If you haven't peed all day and you're running a fever, you didn't drink enough. I'd say this is basic knowledge to the point of being insulting by bringing it up, but risk for everything increases when you're dehydrated, including the blood clotting abnormalities associated with COVID, so it's as equally important as any medication you take. For the two weeks I was laid up, I was drinking a bottle of water at least once every 3 hours while awake. Just watch your pee.

Cough suppressants only as an absolute last resort. I was prescribed tessalon pearles at my ER visit, but I think I only ever took one dose. Unless your body is just flat-out exhausted from coughing and you need a break, I would completely avoid them. You really would rather be coughing up phlegm than taking medication that will keep it in your lungs. —If you can stand it. Dehydration makes the crap thicker and harder to cough up, so make sure you've been drinking your water or you're just wasting coughs.

And on the ultra-kindergarten level, Wash your hands. It still remains the most effective way to reduce the spread of germs.

These days I'm just taking my vitamin D and C.

Forgot to mention rotation. If you must lay up in bed, try to spend time on both your back and your belly. We called it proning a patient, where you flip them onto their bellies for about a third of the time they spent in bed, which was found to be helpful in improving oxygenation. Sleeping on your back is good for your spine, but sleeping on your belly is good for your breathing.
 
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I wonder who is supposed to pay for the weekly testing.

Will there be enough tests available?
 
Dr.3D said:
I wonder who is supposed to pay for the weekly testing.

Will there be enough tests available?
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We are. There is still plenty of federal dollars in the coffers from the previous bills that Trump signed, along with the Biden plan.

Like frn's, there will be an endless supply of tests available, where the M(edical)IC will profit waaaaayyyyyyy more than handsomely. Just like the mask manufacturers.
 
PAF said:
Dr.3D said:
I wonder who is supposed to pay for the weekly testing.
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We are.
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PAF is correct ...

PAF said:
Like frn's, there will be an endless supply of tests available, where the M(edical)IC will profit waaaaayyyyyyy more than handsomely. Just like the mask manufacturers.
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FTA: https://www.whitehouse.gov/covidplan/#testing-masking

Mobilizing Industry to Expand Easy-to-Use Testing Production

President Biden’s plan will mobilize industry due to the urgent and compelling need to accelerate the production of rapid COVID-19 tests, including at-home tests, and continue to ensure that manufacturers prioritize creating these products to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and its variants. Using authorities of the Defense Production Act and through the procurement of nearly $2 billion in rapid point-of-care and over-the-counter at-home COVID tests—280 million tests in all—from multiple COVID-19 test manufacturers, the Administration will ensure a broad, sustained industrial capacity for COVID-19 test manufacturing. These tests will be available to support a range of needs, including long-term care facilities, community testing sites, critical infrastructure, shelters serving individuals experiencing homelessness, prisons and jails, and other vulnerable populations and congregate settings. Further, the action announced today will provide for tests for use by communities, adequate stockpiles, and the needed sustained production to be able to surge additional manufacturing, should we need it in the future.

Making At-Home Tests More Affordable

To improve access to rapid tests for all consumers, top retailers that sell at-home, rapid COVID-19 tests—Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger—will offer to sell those tests at-cost for the next three months. This means that Americans will be able to buy these tests at their local retailers or online for up to 35 percent less starting by the end of this week. The Administration has also taken action so that Medicaid must cover at-home tests for free for beneficiaries, and that states should ensure that any tools they use to manage at-home testing do not establish arbitrary barriers for people seeking care.

Sending Free Rapid, At-Home Tests to Food Banks and Community Health Centers

To ensure that every American—no matter their income level–can access free, convenient, at-home tests, we will send 25 million free at-home rapid tests to 1,400 community health centers and hundreds of food banks.

Expanding Free Pharmacy Testing

As part of our strategy to ensure the most convenient access to free testing, we will expand the number of retail pharmacy sites around the country where anyone can get tested for free through the HHS free testing program to 10,000 pharmacies.

Dr.3D said:
Will there be enough tests available?
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We're talking about the feds here, so it would not be unreasonable to expect a complete cluster-fuck.
 
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Just a friendly legal tip to all: I'm seeing reports that employers who are firing people are asserting that it is actually some form of "resignation", instead of the truth, a "termination". This is legalese to limit liability from wrongful termination/discrimination suits and to make UE benefits harder to obtain. The catch is that if the employer fires someone over covid stuff, make the employer put it in writing -AND- if that writing says anything about resignation, instead of termination, IMMEDIATELY respond in writing DENYING that you are resigning and are instead being terminated! Best to send the denial by registered mail to ensure it has official paper trail. Alternatively, recorded hand delivery of notice to HR or supervisor also works. The reason this matters is that in court (commerce) any assertion made by a side is considered an admitted fact if it is not rebutted (denied). IOW, if they claim you resigned but you did not, but you do not formally deny it, it stands in court, by procedure alone, that you did. Silence is consent!
 
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We are. There is still plenty of federal dollars in the coffers from the previous bills that Trump signed, along with the Biden plan.
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Wrong. They'll have to pay for this like everything else. By firing up the printers.
 
nobody's_hero said:
First off, I'd buy a pulse oximeter for your household. You can get them for about $20. Even the cheap ones are about as accurate as the ones we use in the hospital. My respiratory therapy friends would sneer at me for dumbing it down, but in simplest terms it tells you how oxygenated your blood is. There's way more to it than that, but all you really need to know is that it helps with monitoring.

Stick it on a finger, and it displays a percentage and a heart rate. Check it when you are in good health so you know what your baseline is. Roughly 96-100% for normal healthy adults. Before I drove to the ED, mine had dropped to 91% so I knew something was going on and that's when I decided I probably at least needed a chest xray. If you have lung disease like COPD your baseline might be as low as 89%, and that would be 'your' 'normal'. If you get hit with COVID, keep an eye out for drops. If you are feeling short of breath and the numbers aren't showing what is "normal" for you, that's when you need to let your doctor know. It's a really easy-to-use device that can, at least somewhat, help you figure out whether it's anxiety, or something more serious. Frankly if I hadn't had one at home, I would have probably brushed off feeling short of breath as standard symptoms. But the numbers tell the rest of the story. You don't want to be showing up to the hospital to find out that you're satting 70% or worse, when you'd be 95% on a good day, so I suggest getting one for personal use so you can keep track of it before it gets anywhere near that point. Unfortunately one of the problems we had was that people wouldn't show up UNTIL they were that low, but of course they had no way of knowing. It's worth the $20.

Kids tend to maintain, maintain, maintain and crash their oxygen saturation, so it's not quite as useful on them, but thankfully kids tend to do better with COVID (or at least they were when I was working), so there's that.

As far as medications go, it's not really a nurse's scope of practice to recommend those, so I'm not going to suggest Ivermectin, especially for off-label use. I'm not against those meds by any means, but you really need to get that kind of information from a doctor. I didn't go to med school and really don't know enough about it. Then again finding a doctor in the USA who is genuinely interested in alternative treatments like Ivermectin is not exactly easy.

I will mention some of the non-prescription stuff I was taking based on early protocols, which has probably changed since I left (I was using the protocols bedside doctors practically scribbled on a kleenex in the first few weeks, when they were having to figure all this stuff out through networking, before they started the more "approved" protocols).

I'm an adult. Keep that in mind.

vitamins/minerals I started taking were zinc 220mg, vitamin C 500mg in the morning and another 500mg @ night (this is way over daily recommendation, my nurse manager claims he was taking 3,000 mg/day of Vitamin C when COVID first hit, take too much and it might give you diarrhea, no big deal unless you're fighting off a fever and/or already have diarrhea, and dehydration is a potential risk). Magnesium 250mg/day as a mild muscle relaxant, could be increased to 500mg if you're really sore (also helps somewhat with headaches). Aspirin 81 mg (if you're already on blood thinners, ask a doc).

Vitamin D. - - - I'd go ahead get it checked while you're healthy. Your doctor will laugh at you, because no one on God's green earth ever checks a Vitamin D level, but just about everyone in America has vitamin D deficiency. If you get your results back and it's low, your doctor will probably be like, "well, I'll be damned." This is one that you can get toxicity from (though rare), so it's better to go with lab work for dose recommendations. My D levels were abysmal prior to getting infected with COVID so I was already on prescription strength capsules.

This sounds obvious and cliché, but drink plenty of fluids. Water. No one drinks 8 cups a day, but supposedly that's the recommendation for an adult, barring any history of heart failure. You can throw in a fancy electrolyte sports drink every now and then, if you aren't eating much, but water makes up the bulk of it. Watch your pee. If you haven't peed all day and you're running a fever, you didn't drink enough. I'd say this is basic knowledge to the point of being insulting by bringing it up, but risk for everything increases when you're dehydrated, including the blood clotting abnormalities associated with COVID, so it's as equally important as any medication you take. For the two weeks I was laid up, I was drinking a bottle of water at least once every 3 hours while awake. Just watch your pee.

Cough suppressants only as an absolute last resort. I was prescribed tessalon pearles at my ER visit, but I think I only ever took one dose. Unless your body is just flat-out exhausted from coughing and you need a break, I would completely avoid them. You really would rather be coughing up phlegm than taking medication that will keep it in your lungs. —If you can stand it. Dehydration makes the crap thicker and harder to cough up, so make sure you've been drinking your water or you're just wasting coughs.

And on the ultra-kindergarten level, Wash your hands. It still remains the most effective way to reduce the spread of germs.

These days I'm just taking my vitamin D and C.

Forgot to mention rotation. If you must lay up in bed, try to spend time on both your back and your belly. We called it proning a patient, where you flip them onto their bellies for about a third of the time they spent in bed, which was found to be helpful in improving oxygenation. Sleeping on your back is good for your spine, but sleeping on your belly is good for your breathing.
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Thank for your advice! I'll keep these things in mind.

Did it take you two weeks to heal from COVID? Have you had any post-effects from COVID since you had it?
 
Anti Federalist said:
My whole house is down with COVID, for the past two weeks.

It came from an infected co-worker of my wife's who had both jabs, but still got sick, with what appears to be some supercharged version.
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Read this thread NOW!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?555787-Covid-Ongoing-Genocide

Share the video. I also provided a link to the website https://myfreedoctor.com/ where you can get the drugs that Dr. Fraudchi doesn't want you to have. You know, the ones that actually work? Also nasal irrigation and steam treatment have been clinically proven to help COVID. Same with melatonin, Zinc, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, exercise, sunlight, fresh air, xylitol.

Nasal irrigation against COVID.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7436790/

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04347538

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.16.21262044v1

Steam vs COVID-19. A viral video was circulating about this back in March 2020 or before. But people poo-pooed it because Dr. Fraudchi said "We can't be sure that heat kills the virus." Well...it turns out we can.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...y-found-to-inactivate-SARS-CoV-2-virions.aspx

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680040/

Exercise prevents COVID and helps with earlier recovery.

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/04/07/bjsports-2021-104080

Potential Role of Xylitol Plus Grapefruit Seed Extract Nasal Spray Solution in COVID-19: Case Series
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7645297/

Note you can get Xylitol over the counter.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=xylitol+nasal+spray&ref=nb_sb_noss

Some notes on hydrotherapy. Seventh Day Adventist sanatoriums used it during the 1918 flu pandemic to good effect.

https://www.adventistworld.org/concerned-hydrotherapy-may-play-a-role/

It seems to be helpful against COVID-19. Weird how natural remedies that help against 1 virus helps against a different virus?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33303302/

Simply getting out in the fresh air and sunshine worked wonders against the 1918 flu.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504358/

Fresh air has been deemed the "forgotten weapon" against COVID.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55435914

Instead of getting people to go out in the fresh air Dr. Fraudchi said close down the parks and the beaches.

Sunlight helps fight COVID both in terms of vitamin D production and ultraviolet light causing the skin to release nitrous oxide which kills the virus.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33138947/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/04/210408212954.htm
The researchers took into account factors known to be associated with increased exposure to the virus and risk of death such as age, ethnicity, socioeconomic status, population density, air pollution, temperature and levels of infection in local areas.

The observed reduction in risk of death from Covid-19 could not be explained by higher levels of vitamin D, the experts said. Only areas, with insufficient levels of UVB to produce significant vitamin D in the body, were included in the study.

One explanation for the lower number of deaths, which the researchers are following up, is that sunlight exposure causes the skin to release nitric oxide. This may reduce the ability of SARS Coronavirus2 -- the cause of Covid-19 -- to replicate, as has been found in some lab studies.

Previous research from the same group has shown that increased sunlight exposure is linked to improved cardiovascular health, with lower blood pressure and fewer heart attacks. As heart disease is a known risk factor in dying from Covid-19, this could also explain the latest findings.

The team say due to the observational nature of the study it is not possible to establish cause and effect. However, it may lead to interventions that could be tested as potential treatments.

The paper has been published in the British Journal of Dermatology, an official publication of the British Association of Dermatologists.​

Melatonin decreases risk of catching COVID in whites by 28% and in blacks by 52%. Since Biden and Harris are SOOOO concerned about disparities in the black community, why aren't they talking about this?

https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.o...ate-for-prevention-and-treatment-of-covid-19/

Melatonin can also help with an ongoing infection.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7405774/

Melatonin aids in sleep and your body naturally produced is when you sleep. So get enough sleep!

Hopefully you'll find some of this helpful.
 
sdsubball23 said:
What advice do you recommend for early treatment? Any recommendations of medicines, supplements, etc.? I know Ivermectin is recommend by some, but I don't know where to get it. I want to be prepared for me and my family in case we get COVID.
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[MENTION=16095]nobody's_hero[/MENTION] gave you some great recommendations. As for where to get human dosed ivermectin, try https://myfreedoctor.com.
 
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaptUSA again.
 
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