Bevin Backed TARP and Federal Reserve buying commercial paper issued by banks.

It is obvious no one here has had to manage a large organization or part of an organization where you are required to sign off on a mountain of documents. I personally read every thing I sign, but some documents are hundreds of pages. There is going to come a time where I will be managing an organization where I will not be able to read everything, and I will have to trust some people to correctly brief me on the details.

It's not as easy as you think.
 
jurgs01 said:
It is obvious no one here has had to manage a large organization or part of an organization where you are required to sign off on a mountain of documents. I personally read every thing I sign, but some documents are hundreds of pages. There is going to come a time where I will be managing an organization where I will not be able to read everything, and I will have to trust some people to correctly brief me on the details.

It's not as easy as you think.
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Uh huh. I guess he didn't recognize the guy he was standing next to handing state dollars to his company?
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jj- said:
Brought to you by McConnell's foremost cheerleader in the forum. So consider it very carefully.
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To be fair to BamaFanNKY, he wouldn't have posted this if he was a McConnell cheerleader:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ndments!-Call-his-office!&highlight=McConnell

Unless the guy is Jesse Benton, he probably is just skeptical of Bevin. Maybe he will be right, but I think you know that McConnell is a RINO and have a chance that Bevin actually intends to keep his word and join the Rand Paul "caucus" in the Senate. If not, we replace him, but I don't see how you can do worse than McConnell:
62% from the New American (in 2008 he got a 43%...isn't that how we judge character when times are hard?):
http://www.thenewamerican.com/freedomindex/profile.php?id=M000355

78% from FreedomWorks:
http://congress.freedomworks.org/legislators/mitch-mcconnell
 
Bevin explained this on the Blaze. Makes perfect sense to me.

All the respect I used to have for the OP is completely gone, and if this was my forum, so would he.
 
You lost all respect because it's a fact he's taken a bailout for his business and them consigned this? Facts are hard to refute. Bevin giving money to Greg Fischer and Wendy as well as maxing to Romney show his true goal, power. He will say and grease whoever to be elected. Just some people are easy marks and fall for it.
 
BamaFanNKy said:
Bevin giving money to Greg Fischer and Wendy as well as maxing to Romney show his true goal, power. He will say and grease whoever to be elected. Just some people are easy marks and fall for it.
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Um, how is that different from McConnell?
 
jj- said:
Um, how is that different from McConnell?
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That's the point. I say none of them deserve our support. My contention is I'd rather an Old dude like Mitch who have one more term in them than a dude who has 30 to 36 years in him.

Also, anyone notice in the Beck interview he says he has zero writings or anything else to prove his position at that time. I think everyone has some form of writing (social media or local paper/speeches) to prove their stances. Yet, this dude was not involved or vocal. He is a pretender who was hanging with the Blumenthals.
 
jurgs01 said:
"According to some" is a copout. Post the text of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act that validates your point. Actually dig to the source instead of listening to what the media tells you.
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I don't need to. Bevin has fabricated his MIT background as well as taken money from the state and rang joyful bells with Blumenthal. Then donated money to Greg Fischer and Mitt Romney. Then he signs off on this.... I don't think he violated Sarbanes-Oxley, I think he agreed with what was written. The man has ZERO writings or speeches to refute it from that time period. Why? Because he was never vocal nor active. He just wants to be elected and he's duped enough people to believe as they do.
 
BamaFanNKy said:
I don't need to. Bevin has fabricated his MIT background as well as taken money from the state and rang joyful bells with Blumenthal. Then donated money to Greg Fischer and Mitt Romney. Then he signs off on this.... I don't think he violated Sarbanes-Oxley, I think he agreed with what was written. The man has ZERO writings or speeches to refute it from that time period. Why? Because he was never vocal nor active. He just wants to be elected and he's duped enough people to believe as they do.
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The guy has stated he will be joining the Paul/Lee/Cruz "caucus" of the Senate. He has good fiscal policy, anti-spying, and a humble foreign policy on his issues page. You are saying that he is a fraud and is lying. Okay. So what do you assert happens? He just bails and becomes a RINO when he gets to the Senate (bucking who would be the new senior Senator from KY)?

Are you voting for McConnell? Actively campaigning? Are you just going to vote libertarian? Not vote? I'm confused as to what you want as the best end state for liberty.

Anyway, maybe you are right. There is also the chance you are dead wrong. That's the thing about piecing together things that you don't know the context of. There is a chance you could be right or wrong, but even if you are right, I would be interested to hear what you think will happen if Bevin wins.
 
thoughtomator said:
A LOT of us did! I went from complete financial ignorance in 2005 to understanding everything that the Fed was doing by the time TARP came around. 2008 is actually quite late in the game - anyone who supported TARP did so with eyes open, there are no excuses for it.
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Steve King from Iowa led the fight against TARP in the House and he's not at all a friend of the liberty movement. People associated with the Paul campaign should have been at least as aware of what was going on as Steve King was.
 
jurgs01 said:
The guy has stated he will be joining the Paul/Lee/Cruz "caucus" of the Senate. He has good fiscal policy, anti-spying, and a humble foreign policy on his issues page. You are saying that he is a fraud and is lying. Okay. So what do you assert happens? He just bails and becomes a RINO when he gets to the Senate (bucking who would be the new senior Senator from KY)?

Are you voting for McConnell? Actively campaigning? Are you just going to vote libertarian? Not vote? I'm confused as to what you want as the best end state for liberty.

Anyway, maybe you are right. There is also the chance you are dead wrong. That's the thing about piecing together things that you don't know the context of. There is a chance you could be right or wrong, but even if you are right, I would be interested to hear what you think will happen if Bevin wins.
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As I recall, Bevin's comments on the Iran negotiations were also pretty hawkish. So is Bevin a political opportunist? Quite possibly. But political opportunists are the ones who tell you that you are winning. We'll never get a majority if we expect to get only the absolutely sincere and dedicated people on board.

But then the question also arises. If you accept political opportunists, what's so bad about Mitch McConnell? I've never been very enthusiastic about the Bevin campaign. McConnell is in a powerful position and has a good working relationship with Rand Paul which has allowed Rand Paul to do his thing. And he has even come around to our side on a few issues.

I think our resources are better devoted to a campaigns that have a better prospect of winning and are also less suspect than Bevin's, and I don't relish the prospect of John Cornyn as Majority Leader.
 
boneyard bill said:
Steve King from Iowa led the fight against TARP in the House and he's not at all a friend of the liberty movement. People associated with the Paul campaign should have been at least as aware of what was going on as Steve King was.
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The average age on here is probably far lower than Steve King's.
 
jurgs01 said:
The guy has stated he will be joining the Paul/Lee/Cruz "caucus" of the Senate. He has good fiscal policy, anti-spying, and a humble foreign policy on his issues page. You are saying that he is a fraud and is lying. Okay. So what do you assert happens? He just bails and becomes a RINO when he gets to the Senate (bucking who would be the new senior Senator from KY)?

Are you voting for McConnell? Actively campaigning? Are you just going to vote libertarian? Not vote? I'm confused as to what you want as the best end state for liberty.

Anyway, maybe you are right. There is also the chance you are dead wrong. That's the thing about piecing together things that you don't know the context of. There is a chance you could be right or wrong, but even if you are right, I would be interested to hear what you think will happen if Bevin wins.
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I am not wrong. I've seen this movie way too many times. I think voting a younger non-Liberty guy is a HUGE mistake. I don't want another (at best) Brett Guthrie type representing me. Worse yet, in the Senate.
 
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