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So just to be clear, having people from private industry is bad? He should have filled those roles with bureaucrats that have never known anything except a govt paycheck?
Yes, yes, most of us here would rather have those departments eliminated; but in the absence of that, who should he have put in those positions?
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Shanahan was born in Palo Alto, California on June 27, 1962[3][4] and grew up in Seattle, Washington, where he graduated from Bishop Blanchet High School in 1980.[5][6] He attended the University of Washington where he earned a Bachelor of Science (B.S.) degree in mechanical engineering. He then earned a Master of Science (M.S.) degree in mechanical engineering from Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and a Master of Business Administration (MBA) from the MIT Sloan School of Management.[7][8]
Alex Michael Azar II (/ˈeɪzər/ born June 17, 1967) is an American politician, lawyer, pharmaceutical lobbyist and former drug company executive who is the current United States Secretary of Health and Human Services. Azar was nominated by President Donald Trump on November 13, 2017 and confirmed by the United States Senate on January 24, 2018. He was formerly the United States Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services under George W. Bush from 2005 to 2007.[2][3]
From 2012 to 2017, Azar was President of the U.S. division of Eli Lilly and Company, a major pharmaceutical drug company, and was a member of the board of directors of the Biotechnology Innovation Organization, a pharmaceutical lobby.
David Longly Bernhardt (born August 17, 1969) is an American attorney, oil industry lobbyist and government administrator serving as the 53rd United States Secretary of the Interior. A partner and shareholder at the Colorado law firm Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck,[1] he began working for the United States Department of the Interior in 2001,[2] and served as the department's solicitor from 2006 to 2009, among other roles.[3][4]
Bernhardt worked for the United States Department of the Interior (DOI) during the George W. Bush administration.[14] Early in his career with the DOI, he was deputy chief of staff and counselor[3] to then-Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton.[2] He also served early on at the DOI as director of congressional and legislative affairs. Later he became solicitor at the DOI[3] after unanimous confirmation from the United States Senate. He was also the United States Commissioner to the International Boundary Commission, U.S. and Canada.[14]
Bernhardt served as Solicitor of the United States Department of the Interior from 2006 to 2009.[3][4] President George W. Bush nominated him in November 2005, subject to Senate confirmation.[15] He was the DOI deputy solicitor at the time.[3] Bernhardt was sworn into office in November 2006,[4] after being unanimously confirmed by the Senate.[5][16]
Legal work and lobbying
Bernhardt served as DOI Solicitor until 2009.[5] That year he rejoined the Colorado-based law firm Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck.[11] He became a shareholder in the firm[1] and chairman[5] of the firm's natural resources law practice.[11] Bernhardt's clients included Halliburton, Cobalt International Energy, Samson Resources, and the Independent Petroleum Association of America.[17]
Andrew R. Wheeler (born December 23, 1964) is an American attorney and serves as the 15th Administrator of the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).[1] He served as the deputy administrator from April to July 2018, and served as the acting administrator from July 2018 to February 2019. He previously worked in the law firm Faegre Baker Daniels, representing coal magnate Robert E. Murray and lobbying against the Obama Administration's environmental regulations.[2] Wheeler served as chief counsel to the United States Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works and to the chairman U.S. Senator James Inhofe, prominent for his rejection of climate change.[3] Wheeler is a critic of limits on greenhouse gas emissions and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.[4]
In October 2017, Wheeler was nominated by President Trump,[5] renominated in January 2018[6] and confirmed as Deputy Administrator of the EPA in April 2018.[7] On July 9, 2018, Wheeler became the Acting Administrator following the resignation of Scott Pruitt.[8] On November 16, 2018, President Trump announced he would nominate Wheeler to serve as the EPA's permanent administrator.[9] He was confirmed for the position by a 52-47 vote in the Senate on February 28, 2019.[10]
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I'm saving this image and putting it in my archives.
Honestly, the scope for these types of jobs probably is best known by lawyers and lobbyists. The head EPA aint exactly working in a chemistry lab. the head of education isn't working in a classroom, the head of the interior isn't exactly going to be rangering all day. With that said;Swamp creatures one and all, executives whose expertise are not in the scope of the job and lawyers and lobbyists.
Honestly, the scope for these types of jobs probably is best known by lawyers and lobbyists. The head EPA aint exactly working in a chemistry lab. the head of education isn't working in a classroom, the head of the interior isn't exactly going to be rangering all day. With that said;
I'm not going to argue on the Sec of Defense, agreed. The "coal lobbyist"? I see a lot of positives in a guy that has lobbied against the bullshit climate change and anti-energy regulations. And I think one could reasonably argue that a pharm exec knows more about our govt run health services than a doctor and probably more about how/where its corrupt. I noticed you didn't say anything about DeVos, yet the image seems to take issue with the fact that she was born rich as if that is automatically a bad thing. And of course a banking exec is going to know more about the treasury than a bank teller.
Point is their professions and the bullshit text pasted on these peoples heads is no indication that they could not possibly be an ideal person to root out the swamp. And no, I don't actually think they will; but their experience would probably make them ideal if they actually wanted to.
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The head of education should have worked in a classroom, the head of the interior should have done something like being a ranger, or at least some kind of Bundy like experience. You're just equivocating, they're all swamp creatures and you won't admit it. If you think this stuff should be run by lobbyists and lawyers then what does "drain the swamp" even mean?