Best and Worst U.S. Presidents?

[sophocles07]

I would start on A Constitutional History of Secession by John Remington Graham (p. 159 for that info). I would then proceed to the The South was Right by the Kennedy brothers if you want any more info on anything else. Both books are well cited. Those two books had me convinced that what I had been taught at school was a lie. Though, I must admit, I have always had sympathies with the South, primarily because because that is where most of my family lives and my ancestors fought for her.

Have you ever read anything by Allen Tate or the other Fugitive writers on the South (Southern Agrarian movment)? They're ideas actually attract me to the idea of an "Old South." But, then again, they owned slaves, so the ideal's a bit hard to keep up. I'll look into what you've suggested.

 

[nate895]

Have you ever read anything by Allen Tate or the other Fugitive writers on the South (Southern Agrarian movment)? They're ideas actually attract me to the idea of an "Old South." But, then again, they owned slaves, so the ideal's a bit hard to keep up. I'll look into what you've suggested.

No I haven't, but they are mentioned a few times in The South was Right book I mentioned. Maybe I'll try to read this summer.

 

[Elliott]

The other point is that Lincoln didn't really do anything the PEOPLE of his country wanted him to do... The south seceded. The UNION was a SEPARATE country whose constituents demanded a war. The Lincoln bashers on here are setting themselves for a proverbial corner beating if they keep it up.

Do your posts make sense to you?

 

[nate895]

Do your posts make sense to you?

That post sounds like babble. Not because I disagree with it, necessarily, but because I have absolutely no clue what it is saying.

 

[IRO-bot]

Kade - Here is your source for why Lincoln is arguably the worst president in U.S. history.

http://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205619610&sr=8-1


oh, and please show your sources proving the South "wanted" war.

 

[j650]

Best- FDR, Lincoln, Washington

Worst- Grant, Harding, Hoover, George W. Bush

 

[nate895]

Best- FDR, Lincoln, Washington

Worst- Grant, Harding, Hoover, George W. Bush

And you consider yourself a Ron Paul supporter?

 

[Flash]

whats the opinion on JFK around here? Wasn't he an interventionalist?

 

[sophocles07]

whats the opinion on JFK around here? Wasn't he an interventionalist?

Yes. He sucks booty.

 

[Aratus]

nate895, if j650 wants to realistically return the SIZE of the federal gov't to that
there institution that FDR knew like the back of his hand, rather than the neatly tidy
governmental apparatus that did often let Cal Coolidge take naps in the afternoon, then
perhaps j650 is implying a transistion phase goal for all the good libertarians here.

 

[Aratus]

yes... JFK thought about going into Cuba and it wasn't as well thought out
as was the "splendid lil' war" the Dodge Commission had these hearings about, however
in his defense, its LBJ who really escallated in Southeast Asia for good or ill.

 

[Kade]

Aratus is a true troll... actually, I think it's a bot.

 

[Aratus]

http://www.harpweek.com/09Cartoon/BrowseByDateCartoon.asp?Month=August&Date=13

i actually knew about the Dodge Commission... Kade! give me credit where
credit is due, and yes, i could do a link to the "Bay of Pigs" when being themed!!!

 

[Kade]

http://www.harpweek.com/09Cartoon/BrowseByDateCartoon.asp?Month=August&Date=13

i actually knew about the Dodge Commission... Kade! give me credit where
credit is due, and yes, i could do a link to the "Bay of Pigs" when being themed!!!

Bot.

 

[Aratus]

i'm not saying mckinley is a very bad potus...
nor am i saying the same about TR or FDR...

fact is dude, i contrast the size of thah gov't
in FDR's time to both cal coolidge and TODAY!

i heard that at the bay of pigs, quite a few people realized
the initial landing zone was 80 miles further on that coast...

 

[Aratus]

dude...


this H. L mencken thingie you have...

i am an affectionado of gonzo hunter thompson...

so don't go f. scott fitzgerald era "grumpy old man" on me!

 

[Aratus]

dude...

like heck, hades,
heckle and ben hecht,
aint you seen some
gonzo prose before?

gonzo is a style!

 

[Aratus]

gonzo is like jazz as defined by louie armstrong...
so far, the gov't aint got the atavars/avatars who can do gonzo!
i dread wiki, yet i utilize wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_journalism

 

[Galileo Galilei]

BEST

1. James Madison

2. Monroe

3. Jefferson

4. Grover Cleveland

5. Washington

6. Quincy Adams

7. Van Buren

8. Barack Obama

9. JFK

10. Jimmy Carter

WORST

1. Woodrow Wilson

2. FDR

3. Lyndon Johnson

4. George Herbert Walker Bush

5. George W. Bush

6. Reagan

7. Polk

8. McKinnley

9. John Tyler

10. Eisenhower

 

[Aratus]

neither am i saying JFK is a bad potus...
fact is, i didn't state my own list yet i made a
comment or 2 about quite few people else's lists!