Benton: 'Dr. Paul will not seek to be nominated from the floor.'

[Michigan11]

I spent all day, off and on, reading this entire thread. All I have to say is this:

The BEST CASE SCENARIO for the United States is that Ron Paul will be nominated at the convention in 2 weeks.

Even if we are successful in nominating him from the convention floor, we will not be successful in preventing the economic depression that Ron predicted back in 07.

Folks, you had better get prepared for harder times, even if the best case scenario happens (i.e. PRESIDENT RON PAUL). If Rumdumb Romney or O-bummer are (s)elected, you will have gained much and lost nothing.

And I agree with the sentiment expressed by many in this thread: If this is truly Ron's victory lap, then for heaven's sake, repeat 1976 RNC again.

Think of what Ron Paul the Congressman has done for this country from his office, and then running for the office of Prez... we need to fill the power structure in this country with as many RP's as we have the opportunity to do so.

 

[sailingaway]

What is the "back porch campaign", sailing?

Aratus suggests it from time to time, I suspect he/she is joking but brings up a historic president who ran for president from his back porch and people had to come to see him. In this day and age we could use skype and video. But it isn't a serious suggestion, I don't see Ron wanting to run in 2016. However, I'll support him as long and as often as he is willing to run. As others here have said, one of his caliber is pretty much a once in a lifetime thing -- unless seeds he plant take root, and we elect those, which is what I'm hoping.

 

[sailingaway]

Think of what Ron Paul the Congressman has done for this country from his office, and then running for the office of Prez... we need to fill the power structure in this country with as many RP's as we have the opportunity to do so.

except there aren't other Ron Paul's yet, and there still IS the original, which is NOT always going to be true.

 

[sailingaway]

No 80 year old will be elected in modern times and carrying Ron Paul around Weekend-at-Bernie's style is what makes people label this movement a cult of personality.

Except that is merely a smear because if there were another with his principles we'd be happy. You say 'elect a hundred Ron Pauls' then in the next breath tell us how we have to be 'reasonable' and 'settle' for people who 'aren't as pure'.

We HAVE pure now. How long will we be able to say that? Show off what got us into this to begin with, I say. Compromising principles isn't going to light brushfires imho.

 

[Aratus]

technically its a "front porch" campaign!!!

warren g. harding is the last candidate

who ran a classic front porch campaign.

if doctor ron paul gives this an internet

era twist, we might have the 19th century

and the 21st century upending the "rules"

of the second half of the twentieth century.

Some farm houses have two to four porches

and its up to the candidate as to where to sit!

 

[sailingaway]

technically its a "front porch" campaign!!!

warren g. harding is the last candidate

who ran a classic front porch campaign.

if doctor ron paul gives this an internet

era twist, we might have the 19th century

and the 21st century upending the "rules"

of the second half of the twentieth century.

Some farm houses have two to four porches

and its up to the candidate as to where to sit!

Indeed.

With Ron perhaps it would be by the pool.

 

[Michigan11]

except there aren't other Ron Paul's yet, and there still IS the original, which is NOT always going to be true.

Are there other Ron Paul's that have different names yet are espousing the same ideology?
or voting to advance the same ideology?

Or are we talking about something else here that I dono?

 

[sailingaway]

Are there other Ron Paul's that have different names yet are espousing the same ideology?
or voting to advance the same ideology?

Or are we talking about something else here that I dono?

I don't know what you are saying. The number of times you have told people they have to settle for less should be evidence enough there isn't another Ron Paul.

 

[Michigan11]

I don't know what you are saying. The number of times you have told people they have to settle for less should be evidence enough there isn't another Ron Paul.

I have never told people to settle for less, I only support those that are alligned with our ideology. Others here know that's not true. Look through my posts and threads.

I have been very consistent with who I support and promote in this forum, I take it very seriously.

Anyways.... I think Ron showed us all the blueprint as our founding fathers did, we have the people and the tools to take this all the way.

 

[jay_dub]

I hate this attitude that prevails in the forum. This notion that the power establishment simply cannot be brought down.

yes, it can.

There is nothing superhuman or god-like about TPTB. All establishments before us have been brought down.

You and I changing the current establishment is no different than the freedom fighters who fought for and successfully abolished slavery.

Yes, all other governments have fallen one way or another. It's arguable if the change has been for the best.

The problem with trying to inject liberty and personal freedom back into our system is that the people are not active participants. They just don't care so long as they have their creature comforts. And, as our Founders pointed out in many ways, a virtuous government can only rise from a virtuous people.

While we can effect changes in policy, an army of Ron Pauls won't change the hearts of men. Of course, policy changes are a good place to start to get them on the path. Kind of like take the matches away from a kid and he won't start fires anymore. The kid will remain a work in progress, though.

I would totally disagree with you that 'freedom fighters' abolished slavery. The abolition of slavery was a by-product of a war fought to consolidate power in a central government. Not exactly the model I wish to follow.

 

[ninepointfive]

To the poeple that ARE GOING ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT 2016.... give it a break already. As a South African I've seen the many stages that a country goes through that you guys are only starting to experience. Before you know it you are done, the masses will be used against you and there is nothing you can do about it. Its not too late for you guys, why do you think so many poeple around the world are rooting for you guys, because they know this is the LAST STAND.

Etch a Sketch, if you are good little boys and girls they will ETCH A SKETCH YOUR ASS. They already conditioning the masses into viewing Ron Paulers as trouble makers even though our supporters get bones broken.

Conventions ARE MEAN'T TO BE A FIGHT, a battle between the opposing factions. This is by fcking design.... now you got people running around saying don't make waves..... WTF. Screw these poeple, no one is saying get in fist fights or throw food, but you are merely DOING YOUR JOB AS A DELEGATE. You are representing the poeple in your street, how u gonna look them in the eye when you get back to your street and you didn't do your fcking job because you were told not to make waves. I want to hear END THE FED END THE FED. This can be done respectively. No one is saying shout speakers down like morons, but if you get a gap you scream your lungs out.

Ron Paul needs to speak.... once Ron has done his job, then the Delegates need to do theirs, and if the delegates want to be asshats and vote Mitt the _ _ _ _ then they are morons. “Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.” ― Ron Paul

Best comment yet!

 

[parocks]

To the poeple that ARE GOING ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT 2016.... give it a break already. As a South African I've seen the many stages that a country goes through that you guys are only starting to experience. Before you know it you are done, the masses will be used against you and there is nothing you can do about it. Its not too late for you guys, why do you think so many poeple around the world are rooting for you guys, because they know this is the LAST STAND.

Etch a Sketch, if you are good little boys and girls they will ETCH A SKETCH YOUR ASS. They already conditioning the masses into viewing Ron Paulers as trouble makers even though our supporters get bones broken.

Conventions ARE MEAN'T TO BE A FIGHT, a battle between the opposing factions. This is by fcking design.... now you got people running around saying don't make waves..... WTF. Screw these poeple, no one is saying get in fist fights or throw food, but you are merely DOING YOUR JOB AS A DELEGATE. You are representing the poeple in your street, how u gonna look them in the eye when you get back to your street and you didn't do your fcking job because you were told not to make waves. I want to hear END THE FED END THE FED. This can be done respectively. No one is saying shout speakers down like morons, but if you get a gap you scream your lungs out.

Ron Paul needs to speak.... once Ron has done his job, then the Delegates need to do theirs, and if the delegates want to be asshats and vote Mitt the _ _ _ _ then they are morons. “Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.” ― Ron Paul

No one is saying to throw food? No one?

 

[CPUd]

 

[jax]

This entire campaign since 2008 has been about making a stand for our liberties and premise that our country was founded on. To be told,by the campaign, to basically shut up and be quiet at our last stand is insulting. I feel betrayed and left out to dry. Where is the fighting spirit that this whole thing was fueled by?

The Paul campaign just laying down at the final battle is almost as disheartening as Rand endorsing Romney over his own father

 

[trey4sports]

This entire campaign since 2008 has been about making a stand for our liberties and premise that our country was founded on. To be told,by the campaign, to basically shut up and be quiet at our last stand is insulting. I feel betrayed and left out to dry. Where is the fighting spirit that this whole thing was fueled by?

The Paul campaign just laying down at the final battle is almost as disheartening as Rand endorsing Romney over his own father

I get where you're coming from but i disagree that the campaign is laying down and giving up.

The Ron Paul 2012 Campaign is doing what Ron and company believe will provide us the best opportunity to WIN going forward. They want us to fold into the GOP and change it from within.

It would feel great to cause Romney some serious headaches at the convention but will only serve to alienate us from the party going forward. Of course i'm sure that Rand and Ron are both hoping that we make the strategic decision and support Obama in the ballot booth.

Unfortunately there is no immediate gratification and it will take years to measure the success of the plan.

 

[Eisenhower]

This entire campaign since 2008 has been about making a stand for our liberties and premise that our country was founded on. To be told,by the campaign, to basically shut up and be quiet at our last stand is insulting. I feel betrayed and left out to dry. Where is the fighting spirit that this whole thing was fueled by?

The Paul campaign just laying down at the final battle is almost as disheartening as Rand endorsing Romney over his own father

BUMP this post, fantastic my friend

 

[Westfall]

This has probably been mentioned, but just FYI, I am a national delegate and I can state with absolute confidence that Paul will accept the nomination, but it is the delegates job to get to that point.

 

[Paulistinian]

+rep

This has probably been mentioned, but just FYI, I am a national delegate and I can state with absolute confidence that Paul will accept the nomination, but it is the delegates job to get to that point.

 

[Sola_Fide]

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[MrWalker]

In the end ist the Ron Paul campaign and Ron Paul himself that has the responibility. Delegates should not feel hesitant about going to Florida or not - the way i see it. Remember that Ron Paul picked Jesse Benton himself as the spokesperson for the campaign.
So this is Ron Pauls own will, no matter how strange it sounds, In the end he has to take the responsebility if he wants to seek the nomination or not. So Bentons words are valid here; there will be no nomination of Ron Paul as a presidential candidate in the Republican National Convention of 2012.