Benton: 'Dr. Paul will not seek to be nominated from the floor.'

I hate this attitude that prevails in the forum. This notion that the power establishment simply cannot be brought down.

yes, it can.

There is nothing superhuman or god-like about TPTB. All establishments before us have been brought down.

You and I changing the current establishment is no different than the freedom fighters who fought for and successfully abolished slavery.
 
I hate this attitude that prevails in the forum. This notion that the power establishment simply cannot be brought down.

yes, it can.

There is nothing superhuman or god-like about TPTB. All establishments before us have been brought down.

You and I changing the current establishment is no different than the freedom fighters who fought for and successfully abolished slavery.

this same kind of self-flagellation can be seen in the LP too. it is never productive.
 
To the poeple that ARE GOING ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT 2016.... give it a break already. As a South African I've seen the many stages that a country goes through that you guys are only starting to experience. Before you know it you are done, the masses will be used against you and there is nothing you can do about it. Its not too late for you guys, why do you think so many poeple around the world are rooting for you guys, because they know this is the LAST STAND.

Etch a Sketch, if you are good little boys and girls they will ETCH A SKETCH YOUR ASS. They already conditioning the masses into viewing Ron Paulers as trouble makers even though our supporters get bones broken.

Conventions ARE MEAN'T TO BE A FIGHT, a battle between the opposing factions. This is by fcking design.... now you got people running around saying don't make waves..... WTF. Screw these poeple, no one is saying get in fist fights or throw food, but you are merely DOING YOUR JOB AS A DELEGATE. You are representing the poeple in your street, how u gonna look them in the eye when you get back to your street and you didn't do your fcking job because you were told not to make waves. I want to hear END THE FED END THE FED. This can be done respectively. No one is saying shout speakers down like morons, but if you get a gap you scream your lungs out.

Ron Paul needs to speak.... once Ron has done his job, then the Delegates need to do theirs, and if the delegates want to be asshats and vote Mitt the _ _ _ _ then they are morons. “Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.” ― Ron Paul
 
Many here pretend age isn't a factor, and want Ron to run again in 2016 when he's 80!! The fact of the matter is its a huge factor and Ron doesn't enjoy campaigning to begin with, so you're already behind the 8 ball. The Presidential race for Ron came down to winning Iowa, he could have hunkered down there ala Santorum. Rand will be great on the national stage and a breath of fresh air for those that Ron Paul couldn't reach.

It would be Ron's choice if he ran but I'd absolutely prefer him to any alternative even if we had to carry him around. The last brain cell that man ever has will be pure liberty.

I suspect by then we'll have had to find someone else though. Unless he runs the back porch campaign one of us keeps suggesting. I mean, heck with Skype there are options....

But with two weeks before convention, sitting down this close to the finish line seems like nonsense.
 
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It would be Ron's choice if he ran but I'd absolutely prefer him to any alternative even if we had to carry him around. The last brain cell that man ever has will be pure liberty.

He'll still be in better health then that fatty Newt, Ron Paul 2016 if we make it to 2016.
 
I hate this attitude that prevails in the forum. This notion that the power establishment simply cannot be brought down.

yes, it can.

There is nothing superhuman or god-like about TPTB. All establishments before us have been brought down.

You and I changing the current establishment is no different than the freedom fighters who fought for and successfully abolished slavery.

Nice. Thank you for saying this.
 
It would be Ron's choice if he ran but I'd absolutely prefer him to any alternative even if we had to carry him around. The last brain cell that man ever has will be pure liberty.

I suspect by then we'll have had to find someone else though. Unless he runs the back porch campaign one of us keeps suggesting. I mean, heck with Skype there are options....

But with two weeks before convention, sitting down this close to the finish line seems like nonsense.
No 80 year old will be elected in modern times and carrying Ron Paul around Weekend-at-Bernie's style is what makes people label this movement a cult of personality.
 
No 80 year old will be elected in modern times and carrying Ron Paul around Weekend-at-Bernie's style is what makes people label this movement a cult of personality.

I don't see why not, an 80 year old that is perfectly capable of thinking clearly and making decisions should be preferred to a 50 year old that can do the same. Experience counts for something if you want to believe it or not.
 
No 80 year old will be elected in modern times and carrying Ron Paul around Weekend-at-Bernie's style is what makes people label this movement a cult of personality.

I disagree. This 76 year old is healtheir then all the others combined and he can out debate them all. Ron paul 2016
 
I disagree. This 76 year old is healtheir then all the others combined and he can out debate them all. Ron paul 2016

If he keeps his health and mind up I don't see anyone that would be better for the job in 2016 right now. But I prefer it be as his second term then instead of his first. We need him now!
 
I don't see why not, an 80 year old that is perfectly capable of thinking clearly and making decisions should be preferred to a 50 year old that can do the same. Experience counts for something if you want to believe it or not.


quite frankly it doesn't matter if he would do a better job than the other guy. An 80 year old non-incumbent presidential contender is simply not going to get elected.
 
I think once you witness how corrupt the establishment is at just the delegate level your eyes open up to just how far tptb probably go to further up the food chain. I think Rand could be tornadic and he still won't get anywhere near the whitehouse without conceeding every bit of what could make a difference. There are people behind the scenes that script the future years in advance and the system in my estimation is under tight security from any real agent of change making a difference. Doesn't mean we should stop trying to infiltrate. No one wins the lottery unless they buy a ticket, kwim?
I don't buy into dime store conspiracy theories. If someone has an adult comment please post it. Take this to the Alex Jones forums.
 
I spent all day, off and on, reading this entire thread. All I have to say is this:

The BEST CASE SCENARIO for the United States is that Ron Paul will be nominated at the convention in 2 weeks.

Even if we are successful in nominating him from the convention floor, we will not be successful in preventing the economic depression that Ron predicted back in 07.

Folks, you had better get prepared for harder times, even if the best case scenario happens (i.e. PRESIDENT RON PAUL). If Rumdumb Romney or O-bummer are (s)elected, you will have gained much and lost nothing.

And I agree with the sentiment expressed by many in this thread: If this is truly Ron's victory lap, then for heaven's sake, repeat 1976 RNC again.
 
I don't see why not, an 80 year old that is perfectly capable of thinking clearly and making decisions should be preferred to a 50 year old that can do the same. Experience counts for something if you want to believe it or not.
Maybe in that realm of your own imagination, but in reality there is no way an 80 year old candidate will get the tens of millions of votes needed to succeed.
 
Maybe in that realm of your own imagination, but in reality there is no way an 80 year old candidate will get the tens of millions of votes needed to succeed.

He will if 10's of millions of 70, 80 and 90 year olds vote for him. Ron Paul pulling in the senior vote as well as the youth vote will make him unstoppable. You are so wrong to think there is not a way for Ron to win or any politician to win at 80. Strom Thurmond was 95 when elected to the Senate and didn't leave until he was 100. 80 is a spring chicken compared to 95!
 
He will if 10's of millions of 70, 80 and 90 year olds vote for him. Ron Paul pulling in the senior vote as well as the youth vote will make him unstoppable. You are so wrong to think there is not a way for Ron to win or any politician to win at 80. Strom Thurmond was 95 when elected to the Senate and didn't leave until he was 100. 80 is a spring chicken compared to 95!

Ron running again, can't even be taken seriously and I am all about Ron Paul, I talk about him continuously to others, when I can. Running at 80 isn't even an option.
 
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