Bentivolio Votes AYE for NDAA!!!

[sailingaway]

Here's his explanation



SMH

What's a report going to do, especially when the "legal justification" is the problem to begin with? Any thoughts?

My thought is that Ron's way, which Amash and Thomas are following, is the way to go. Vote to amend a bill to make it better but vote against it if it is bad. If it had something earthshaking in protecting the Constitution in it, I might forgo condemnation, as with Rand's vote on NDAA 2013 when he was under the impression there was something ending indefinite detention for citizens in the bill. (I think he was relying on Lee's analysis, which I believe relied on a tea party House analysis which was absolutely incorrect, but I believe Rand BELIEVED the amendment did that.)

However a report is not earth shaking, so I absolutely agree with Amash and Thomas's votes.

 

[sailingaway]

Well. I'm done with Bentivolio as the Original Poster is here, and we win some we lose some as they say. Luckily most are wins. This is a learning experience, and Kerry hasn't been as bad as most house members. So it is what it is. But yeah I'm going to have to recalculate where my funds head in the future.

I think we should all be giving to Ben Swann to be honest for now.

Honestly, he may just be an idiot, but the result is the same.

 

[sailingaway]

>I would also vote against them. (All NDAAs as currently written)

Yes but each congressman faces their own circumstances and trade off's with leadership. Kerry is voting with the party here and that gives him a few brownie points to avoid Boehner's wrath. Kerry did not win a primary and he's an accidental congressman. This makes it hard for him to be principled so i'd expect him to have a lot of terrible votes. He is not and never has been one of us. I dont know how he got a forum here but dont expect much from him... maybe he'll make it in the top 15 if you're lucky.

He was a delegate for Ron at some stage of in the primary process, as I understand it, and was thought to be one of us. He espoused our issues.

Lack of record makes it a bit of a crap shoot.

 

[EBounding]

In my opinion, the final vote on the NDAA isn't as important as some of the votes on amendments, and Bentivilio made a few bad votes on those as well. He voted against striking the Syria language from the bill, which essentially called for a lot more intervention in Syria.

That's a good point. He basically voted for this:

SEC. 1205. AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT ACTIVITIES TO ENHANCE THE CAPABILITY OF CERTAIN FOREIGN COUNTRIES TO RESPOND TO INCIDENTS INVOLVING WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN SYRIA AND THE REGION.

(a) Authority- The Secretary of Defense, with the concurrence of the Secretary of State, may provide assistance to the military and civilian response organizations of Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Iraq, Turkey, and other countries in the region of Syria in order for such countries to respond effectively to incidents involving weapons of mass destruction in Syria and the region.

(b) Authorized Elements- Assistance provided under this section may include training, equipment, and supplies.

(c) Availability of Funds for Activities Across Fiscal Years- The Secretary of Defense may use up to $4,000,000 of the funds made available to the Department of Defense for operation and maintenance for a fiscal year to carry out the program authorized in subsection (a) and may provide assistance under such program that begins in that fiscal year but ends in the next fiscal year.

 

[Warlord]

He was a delegate for Ron at some stage of in the primary process, as I understand it, and was thought to be one of us. He espoused our issues.

Lack of record makes it a bit of a crap shoot.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-10th-District-MI-(RINO-Neocon)-Voting-Record

this guy looks more interesting and is posting here.

 

[sailingaway]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-10th-District-MI-(RINO-Neocon)-Voting-Record

this guy looks more interesting and is posting here.

don't know him, although I saw him post. I'll have to look into him.

 

[jkr]

 

[John F Kennedy III]

To save retyping, here's my .20 from another thread. Most are responses, other thread has the details.

Great posts bro. And thus it should have been a chorus of 435 NAYS!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Last night proved that you can protect people’s rights while also promoting the defense of this nation.

LOL

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Here's his explanation



SMH

What's a report going to do, especially when the "legal justification" is the problem to begin with? Any thoughts?

The first sentence contained two false statements. NDAA does not keep us safe or maintain our personal liberties.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

My thought is that Ron's way, which Amash and Thomas are following, is the way to go. Vote to amend a bill to make it better but vote against it if it is bad. If it had something earthshaking in protecting the Constitution in it, I might forgo condemnation, as with Rand's vote on NDAA 2013 when he was under the impression there was something ending indefinite detention for citizens in the bill. (I think he was relying on Lee's analysis, which I believe relied on a tea party House analysis which was absolutely incorrect, but I believe Rand BELIEVED the amendment did that.)

However a report is not earth shaking, so I absolutely agree with Amash and Thomas's votes.

Amen SA

 

[John F Kennedy III]

LOL

Right? Kerry is just another we need to vote out.

 

[PatrickHenry1]

Right? Kerry is just another we need to vote out.

Agreed.

1) Bentivolio voted to raise the debt ceiling.
2) He co-sponsored the Full Faith and Credit Act and;
3) Voted for the NDAA despite the fact that the amendments that reject indefinite detention failed.

I've been done with him ever since he voted to raise the debt ceiling and those are the only three votes of his that I've really paid attention to. I'm sure there are plenty of others that are disgraceful.

 

[Cowlesy]

I won't be surprised if Bentivolio ends up on Kevin McCarthy's Whip Team at some point. What a water carrier for Boehner.