Barry Goldwater Jr. changes support from Paul to Romney

[LibertyEagle]

Unfortunately a man who had the entire liberty movement behind him, until he decided to crap on us when we least expected it. What angers me the most is that there are people who call his father a sellout and bailed out simply because his son fell to the darkside.

You guys are being ridiculous. The man supported Paul as long as Paul was in the race. He no longer is and he believes Mitt is better than Obama. And it is his option to do so.

The way some of you guys dump on people is unfair.

 

[DavidK]

You guys are being ridiculous. The man supported Paul as long as Paul was in the race. He no longer is and he believes Mitt is better than Obama. And it is his option to do so.

The way some of you guys dump on people is ridiculous.

You'd think one of the most well respected liberty lovers on this forum would agree that there is zero difference between Romney and Obama. My apologies for giving you so much credit.

 

[Keith and stuff]

You'd think one of the most well respected liberty lovers on this forum would agree that there is zero difference between Romney and Obama. My apologies for giving you so much credit.

There isn't zero difference. For example, Obama wants to extend the Bush tax cuts, except for the rich. Romney wants to extend them for everyone. Romney created Romneycare in 1 state. Obama created Obamacare in 49 states (Romney already took care of MA for him). I could go on...

 

[LibertyEagle]

You'd think one of the most well respected liberty lovers on this forum would agree that there is zero difference between Romney and Obama. My apologies for giving you too much credit.

Reading comprehension is clearly not your forte. I did not provide MY opinion on Romney vs. Obama. That is why I used the word, HE.

 

[DavidK]

So many stupid people on this forum, I kinda hoped people had learned by now the system. Romney is not going to extend any tax cuts for any middle/lower class families. He's going to do the same damn thing every president since Reagan has done and that's be a slave to the corporations.

 

[juleswin]

You'd think one of the most well respected liberty lovers on this forum would agree that there is zero difference between Romney and Obama. My apologies for giving you so much credit.

Read the words under Libertyeagle. Traditional conservative, kinda says it all there

 

[nobody's_hero]

All in favor of abandoning Wake Island, signify by supporting Obamney.

All in favor of going down the godforsaken hellhole with the few and the proud, to you I say: it's an honor to stand beside you.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Read the words under Libertyeagle. Traditional conservative, kinda says it all there

Ugh. Another person with a reading comprehension problem.

I am not going to vote for Romney. I was talking about Goldwater.

Condemning the man for choosing to support Romney, AFTER Paul is out of the race, is ridiculous in my opinion. I wouldn't do it, no. But, it doesn't make Goldwater our enemy, either.

And Jules, what exactly do you have against paleocons? Whatever it is, I suggest you get over it, if you plan to help the liberty movement grow.

 

[Anti Federalist]

All in favor of abandoning Wake Island, signify by supporting Obamney.

All in favor of going down the godforsaken hellhole with the few and the proud, to you I say: it's an honor to stand beside you.

Into the abyss!

See ya on the other side my brother.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Condemning the man for choosing to support Romney, AFTER Paul is out of the race, is ridiculous in my opinion. I wouldn't do it, no. But, it doesn't make Goldwater our enemy, either.

No, but, how refreshing would it be to have had him say, "I cannot, in good conscience, endorse either major candidate for president. I officially withdraw any endorsement."

 

[DavidK]

Read the words under Libertyeagle. Traditional conservative, kinda says it all there

He may as well call himself Traditional Neocon because that's what he sounds like. And yeah I will condemn Goldwater, because he knows that Romney is another puppet president that will do nothing but destroy this country. He is NOTHING like his father, nor is Rand like is, period.

 

[LibertyEagle]

No, but, how refreshing would it be to have had him say, "I cannot, in good conscience, endorse either major candidate for president. I officially withdraw any endorsement."

Yes, it would have. But, damn, AF, I'm glad he did all that he did and I'm not going to spit in his face because he's supporting the eventual nominee. It's what he did last time, so I expected him to do it this time too.

 

[DavidK]

Yes, it would have. But, damn, AF, I'm glad he did all that he did and I'm not going to spit in his face because he's supporting the eventual nominee. It's what he did last time, so I expected him to do it this time too.

To endorse is to support that man or womens political policies -- Goldwater, being a man who endorsed Dr. Paul in the past, cannot logically put his support behind Romney, a man who has nothing in common with Dr. Paul. Am I living a pipe dream Mr. LE?

 

[LibertyEagle]

He may as well call himself Traditional Neocon because that's what he sounds like.

Because I won't throw Goldwater under the bus?

And yeah I will condemn Goldwater, because he knows that Romney is another puppet president that will do nothing but destroy this country.

Sure, but apparently he believes he will be a tiny bit better than Obama. And he probably is right. Obama will not have to worry about getting re-elected and will go for the gusto. But, I'm not voting for him, personally, because I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.

He is NOTHING like his father, nor is Rand like is, period.

Yeah, never miss an opportunity to bash Rand. By the way, did you hear him speak in the Senate today about foreign policy? He is his father's son.

 

[jmdrake]

Folks on both sides are missing the point. Here's why I "facepalmed". I'm not mad at Rand, I think he made a tactical decision. (Though I've seen at least one RPF regular who shall remain unnamed who thinks Rand was telling the truth, and really does support Romney as the "lesser of two evils". I find that idea revolting.) I'm not mad at Barry Goldwater Jr. either, though I wish he hadn't used Rand to prop up his own decision. (Really BG, when asked about Ron why couldn't you say "That's the decision he has to make" and be done with it?) I'm concerned that as we try to "stealth" our way into co-opting the GOP that we don't get co-opted ourselves. Folks this has happened before to movements like us! Sure, some gains are made and an "electable" version of what the movement is supposed to be about wins the WH (think Ronald Reagan) and ultimately the NWO agenda ends up getting moved further (think Iran-Contra, the drug wars, Bush starting the NAFTA and GATT balls rolling after getting elected off of Reagan's legacy). Do I have an answer for this concern? Not at the moment. But I think it's a legit concern.

 

[DavidK]

Because I won't throw Goldwater under the bus?


Sure, but apparently he believes he will be a tiny bit better than Obama. And he probably is right. Obama will not have to worry about getting re-elected and will go for the gusto. But, I'm not voting for him, personally, because I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.


Yeah, never miss an opportunity to bash Rand. By the way, did you hear him speak in the Senate today about foreign policy? He is his father's son.

No he's not right, the old man is delusional, like you. I do not deny that Rand has been a great defender of Liberty since he's taken office -- but to endorse a man who closet endorses every single one of Obama's policies is extremely offensive to those of us who shun the two-party corporate machine that is destroying this country. And please keep adding negative reputation to my account, if you seriously think I give a damn then you got another thing coming. What else ya got Neo?

 

[LibertyEagle]

No he's not right, the old man is delusional, like you. I do not deny that Rand has been a great defender of Liberty since he's taken office -- but to endorse a man who closet endorses every single one of Obama's policies is extremely offensive to those of us who shun the two-party corporate machine that is destroying this country. And please keep adding negative reputation to my account, if you seriously think I give a damn then you got another thing coming. What else ya got Neo?

ha ha!!!

I am a "neo" because I won't throw Goldwater under the bus?

This BS is how some people got a bad impression of Ron Paul supporters.

 

[DavidK]

ha ha!!!

I am a "neo" because I won't throw Goldwater under the bus?

This BS is how some people got a bad impression of Ron Paul supporters.

You're dodging my points Neo.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Into the abyss!

See ya on the other side my brother.

I feel an inspirational metaphor coming on. Ah, yes, this one will do. "We are the flank." @ Minute 3:50

 

[TheGrinch]

No he's not right, the old man is delusional, like you. I do not deny that Rand has been a great defender of Liberty since he's taken office -- but to endorse a man who closet endorses every single one of Obama's policies is extremely offensive to those of us who shun the two-party corporate machine that is destroying this country. And please keep adding negative reputation to my account, if you seriously think I give a damn then you got another thing coming. What else ya got Neo?

You keep getting neg repped for calling people delusional, and it appears the message to stop it has been recieved by you, even though you've chosen not to listen.

I expect that your stay will be rather short here if you choose to call names and be disrespectful towards forum members.

We can and asssuredly will disagree about things like this, but keep it civil and not personal.