Baldwin Or Barr - Poll
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Justin4RonPaul
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Chuck Balwin for me.
I've been a hardcore Ron Paul supporter for a year now. I organized a Meetup group, distributed thousands of flyers/slimjims in our county, completely covered my vehicle with 500 RP stickers, had sign-wavings every week, and much more. In my estimation I recruited about 300 to 1,000 voters for Ron Paul.
I've been a hardcore Ron Paul supporter for a year now. I organized a Meetup group, distributed thousands of flyers/slimjims in our county, completely covered my vehicle with 500 RP stickers, had sign-wavings every week, and much more. In my estimation I recruited about 300 to 1,000 voters for Ron Paul.
tonesforjonesbones
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Oh get off it...
Oh get off it ...you just hate Bob Barr...I pay no attention to anything you say anymore...you are just bitter. You are a worse smear merchant than the neo cons. (Or maybe you hate the libertarian party)
Oh get off it ...you just hate Bob Barr...I pay no attention to anything you say anymore...you are just bitter. You are a worse smear merchant than the neo cons. (Or maybe you hate the libertarian party)
Alright "gentlemen", lets ease on the name-calling. Don't hate people because they're not going to vote the candidate you want. The good thing is, we're evenly split towards the Liberty Movement. So instead of looking at the bad side of things, why not look toward the good things to come out of this.
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Bob Barr is former CIA and Bilderberg placed to keep the Libertarian Party politically impotent.
I love this theory.
Government is inept so I could see them trying to destroy a party by infiltrating it with the a candidate that will improve exposure to the platform.
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The Libertarian Party will be on the ballot in more states than the Constitution Party. Therefore, I think support needs to consolidate around Bob Barr.
Sorry... It's not going to happen
tonesforjonesbones
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Yes...we see it is not going to happen. Unfortunately, the revolution is split. I feel as though I am talking to the neo cons when I try to present the practicality of voting for the Libertarian Party. It's about furthering the message to as many people as we can and getting a viable third party going to compete with the two corrupt parties. I would say, as Bob Barr continues his campaign, he will be able to make this happen with or without the entire revolution, because he will get more visability...and he / the Libertarian Party have the numbers as far as ballot access.
That's funny... when I hear the lame excuses for his lack of character and his "yet to be found" consistent LIBERTY voting record and the arguements for "unity at any price" it reminds me of Neo-Speak
OceanMachine7
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At least he has a voting record. Unlike Baldwin, who's basically less qualified to be president than even Obama.
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Excuse my french friend, BULLSXXX ! To my knowledege Chuck BaldWIN started a "private business" with 3 other people ! Built that "business" HONESTLY into a most successful one. He has raised and educated successful children, paid his bills on time, remained married to the same woman for 35 years and on and on WITHOUT ever asking for a government handout.
B.O. is a flyweight "empty suit" socialist with MARXIST tendencies. Who was a state senator less than 44 months ago ! Most of his adult life has been spent either accepting a check from the taxpayers or doing his best to get taxpayers money for someone else ! I bet he doesn't even balance his own checkbook! His wife prob handles that for him! And people want to put a socialist activist from the "hood" and state gov' without one minute of private sector business experience in CHARGE in the White House. And the MASSES are actually voting for this MOST unqualified candidate? Of course some are because they are the ASSES. Please, give me a break.
BaldWIN would do what the CONSTITUTION states, not what the leeches want. They,including B.O., want to continue and expand the communist plank of redistribution of the wealth of the private sector working persons money to the government and non-workers. B.O. is the McGovern/Jessie Jackson of your time ! Baldwin wants to STOP the insanity and RESTORE the REPUBLIC !
It's high time for all liberty lovers to turn their FIRE toward McSame and B.O. It's now PAST time to STOP attacking Barr or BaldWIN, pick one and get on about the business of ATTACKING the real enemy! BaldWIN or Barr would be on their worst days MUCH better than the enemy on a good day...
THXAll BaldWIN fans come see us @ www.chuckBaldWINforum.com sometime !
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Is that the best you can do? Comment on the weakest of my 3 points? Are you ready for my reply? (everyone else should check out the other points).
I'd rather have no voting record than Barr's. (He puts down a bunt... not glamorous but effective)
And exactly what does Barr's voting record QUALIFY him to be??? Dictator!?!
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Why not both? Seriously, it seems like everybody's fighting over different shades of the same thing here. The overall goal is smaller government, right? Then why fight over petty issues? IMHO, the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party should join forces and try to actually get something done instead of this childish bickering.
That being said, I would say that Baldwin is a better person and that Barr is a better candidate. A Barr/Baldwin ticket sounds pretty good to me. Of course, a Ron Paul/NN ticket sounds even better.
I agree.
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Believe it or not, people who ACTUALLY vote in elections, you know, the ones who are more than 0.5% of the population, which is the amount the LP would continue to get, were they to continue ideologically "pure", anarcho-capitalist candidates that don't care about reaching more people, do care about ACTUAL EXPERIENCE when considering who to vote for.
It matters when trying to sell new people on the candidates. You have much more credibility when you say this person has been in the House of Representatives and he's seen what's happened from the inside, vs. this guy has no real qualifications to be president. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SELL THE IDEAS TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME HARPING ABOUT THE FINER POINTS OF IDEOLOGY. This is the reason why good marketers can make millions while good engineers can sit in grey cubicles their entire lives. You have to know how to present your product in terms that people actually want to hear about.
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JS4Pat
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I agree - he seems to be a MUCH better representative of this movement than Barr.
My God - Barr voted FOR The Patriot Act and was ok with The Iraq Invasion.
It's hard to get further from the US Constitution than that...
Considering:
-The Democrats are rapidly moving the country toward socialized medicine
-The Republicans want to continue the foreign policy fiasco's of the 20th century including losing good men in the Iraq boondoggle.
-An unfunded baby boom retirement liability of $54 trillion soon to pit children against their parents in how they vote.
-A trillion dollar per year foreign policy that does more harm than good.
-Billions wasted on farm subsidies
-A centralized banking system destroying the currency with massive wealth transfers between tax producers and tax consumers
Given this context the political differences between Barr and Baldwin pale into irrelevence.
The only question for me in November will be which party can send the loudest message of protest against all of these crimes against America.
My bets on the LP, but I'll change in a heart beat if the CP roars ahead.
-The Democrats are rapidly moving the country toward socialized medicine
-The Republicans want to continue the foreign policy fiasco's of the 20th century including losing good men in the Iraq boondoggle.
-An unfunded baby boom retirement liability of $54 trillion soon to pit children against their parents in how they vote.
-A trillion dollar per year foreign policy that does more harm than good.
-Billions wasted on farm subsidies
-A centralized banking system destroying the currency with massive wealth transfers between tax producers and tax consumers
Given this context the political differences between Barr and Baldwin pale into irrelevence.
The only question for me in November will be which party can send the loudest message of protest against all of these crimes against America.
My bets on the LP, but I'll change in a heart beat if the CP roars ahead.
OceanMachine7
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Indeed. It's all about getting the message out to the most people.
tonesforjonesbones
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Yes..my bet is on the LP also since Bob Barr is already known, the LP is on more ballots and they will get more media coverage. Ron Paul has freely admitted his lack of media coverage is one of the biggest issues that killed the campaign. Lets not make that same mistake again please.
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