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My vote will be going for Barr, but I have no problem with Baldwin. I hope that all Ron Paul supporters who vote, vote for Barr or Baldwin though, becuase writing in does nothing.
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revolutionary8
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Voting Chuck Baldwin or Writing in Ron Paul will help me sleep. That is "something" to me. Let's take a survey of all those who got spun on Bush41 and Bush43. I wonder if they feel good today having cast their votes for Nazi's?
I am guessing no.
Thank God I don't have to live with that, and it is something I and others in my family and circle of friends are very Proud of= as we should be. This is NOT to say people should feel guilt, but they damn sure SHOULD if they do it again.
I will NEVER listen to another politician spout "change" ever again and take it seriously.
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Justin4RonPaul
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That's a ridiculous claim. Chuck Baldwin basically ran because he didn't want Alan Keyes to win the nomination and basically destroy the Constitution Party with his neocon philosophy. You act like Baldwin was involved in the Paul campaign just so that he could run for president and gain Paul's supporters. You obviously don't know Dr. Baldwin.
Baldwin is NOT "trying to ride off Ron Paul's wave". He certainly did a lot more than you did for Ron Paul. How many commercials did you create for Ron Paul that were on television? How many articles did you write online, that were read by tens of thousands of people, criticizing Huckabee/McCain/Romney and endorsing Ron Paul ? Did you travel to Iowa and other states to campaign for Ron Paul?
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Yah... what he said!
If the Baldwin bashers where really campaigning for Ron Paul, they would already know this stuff... You couldn't do any search on Huckabee (looking for a good critique / hit piece) and not come across Baldwin's articles. These bashers must have been too busy to campaign seriously for Ron... probably gazing at their navels (narcissistic #%^*s).
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If the Baldwin bashers where really campaigning for Ron Paul, they would already know this stuff... You couldn't do any search on Huckabee (looking for a good critique / hit piece) and not come across Baldwin's articles. These bashers must have been too busy to campaign seriously for Ron... probably gazing at their navels (narcissistic #%^*s).
They would also know what Baldwin stands for instead of parrotting all the lies and distortions we are seeing posted.
Chuck Baldwin 2008!
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WOW! Almost 50/50
Hey people....do you realize Bob Barr voted for the Patriot Act, the war in Iraq, Dept of Homeland Security....AND NOW HE'S RUNNING AS A LIBERTARIAN???
If he has changed his ways, fine, but I can't vote for someone with this kind of record.
Chuck Baldwin worked VERY HARD on Ron Paul's campaign, and he is very anti-NWO so I think I've got my pick in hand.
Hey people....do you realize Bob Barr voted for the Patriot Act, the war in Iraq, Dept of Homeland Security....AND NOW HE'S RUNNING AS A LIBERTARIAN???
If he has changed his ways, fine, but I can't vote for someone with this kind of record.
Chuck Baldwin worked VERY HARD on Ron Paul's campaign, and he is very anti-NWO so I think I've got my pick in hand.
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I would say go with the one who could garner the most support of the American people. I'm not criticizing either candidate.
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Baldwin...no brainer.
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I voted for Barr. Baldwin seems like a theocrat to me.
I've exchanged emails with Barr's office and with Root himself. For what it's worth, they are with us on online poker rights. My updated guide is at http://theengineer.pokerplayersalliance.org/presidential-candidates-and-internet-poker-rights .
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Chuck Over Bob
I'm voting for Dr. Baldwin for basically the same reasons I voted for Congressman Paul during the Primaries. I just don't trust Bob Barr, and I already despise the Libertarian Party, anyway.
I'm voting for Dr. Baldwin for basically the same reasons I voted for Congressman Paul during the Primaries. I just don't trust Bob Barr, and I already despise the Libertarian Party, anyway.
So did I, but I'll be voting Barr in November unless something big changes the game (like Ron Paul taking over the Republican Party).
My view is this...Barr isn't the ideal candidate, but no philosophically pure Libertarian candidate will ever get more than 0.5-1% of the vote. As the Libertarian Party grows, it will by force of nature become less "radical". I will always treasure the "radicals" keeping the party as pure as possible, but I'd never have a chance in hell to convince my friends to vote for Badnarik or Ruwart...but with Barr we have a chance to expand the reach of the party and have a candidate that will appeal to a larger audience that isn't as conditioned to some of our more radical views.
Perhaps that is a Faustian deal, but after three elections in the 0.5% range (and one who was embarrased to admit my support of Badnarik to my friends -- hell, I could have been Badnarik), I'm ready for a flawed but popular Ross Perot (whom I voted for in 1992 even though I didn't agree with all his politics because I wanted *someone* to break the two party stranglehold).
If nothing else, he exposes the Libertarian Party a little more and gets enough votes to make ballot access a little easier down the road. Could Ruwart have done as much? Would I have preferred Ron Paul at the head, heck yah! But Barr is orders of magnitude better than the other choices I'll have in November.
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Baldwin is a Christian radical with some libertarian views. Barr is a bit of a phony, but he seems sincere with his remarks and has a lot of right ideas for the right reasons. Plus, the Constitution party is worthless, and not at all in line with the libertarian values we here are supposed to espouse. Banning pornography? SERIOUSLY? Give me a break, CP.
I would have voted for Kubby, Ruwart, Jingozian, hell - even Gravel - above Bob Barr, but he's the LP's nominee and I will support it, knowing that my views are much better upheld by him than McCain.
I would have voted for Kubby, Ruwart, Jingozian, hell - even Gravel - above Bob Barr, but he's the LP's nominee and I will support it, knowing that my views are much better upheld by him than McCain.
Agreed
As a poker player myself I went and checked the CP platform on Gambling:
Not the way I would word it and I would make a distinction between games of chance and poker but nowhere does it call for laws being passed... most of it has to do with getting the Federal government out of this issue. I would've dropped the "Gambling promotes..." line.
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They can't. That is where the 'Christian morals" come in. Their platform says bringing back the US to it's biblical foundings or some such. Scarry stuff. I like Baldwin ideologically better but the CP is a huge turn off for me.
Lukewarm for Barr here. I'd be alot happier about it if we was with Kubby and not W.A.R.!!
Lukewarm for Barr here. I'd be alot happier about it if we was with Kubby and not W.A.R.!!
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