Back in the wind.

TheCount said:
It's because of the riding position and styling. Many cruisers you sit more 'in' the bike than 'on' the bike. You're entirely behind the engine, rather than being somewhat above the transmission. Footpegs are forward and wide because your legs are spread out somewhat. The handlebars are also typically wider because of the rake angle of the front suspension.

Again, sticking with Honda bikes for easy comparison, the CTX700 and the NC700 are essentially the same bike, but the CTX is significantly larger. According to Honda's dimensions specs, the CTX is 6 inches wider, which is around 20% more. On the other hand, the Rebel 500 is only about an inch wider than the CB500F.
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Thanks again. This is all very fascinating to me and quite informative and will be useful quite soon.
 
Origanalist said:
Just a thought, but IMO this is a bad way to go about considering buying a motorcycle. You need to consider what your needs will be on the road and the rest should be secondary and accommodations made accordingly. Otherwise your going to regret your purchase except when you're parking it.
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Sage advice!
 
Investment bikes that aren't Harley and aren't Jap;

Feel free to add what I miss!



Ace

Triumph

Moto Guzzi

BSA

Norton

Crocker

BMW

Indian

Excelsior

Ducati

Benelli.

Royal Enfield

Vincent

Matchless

Zundapp
 
I've never been a bike guy, always preferred 4wheels. Preferred ATV to DirtBike, Jeep to MotorCycle. Although I did have bike pegs mounted on the outside of my doorless jeep back in the day. :)

With that said, for some reason the kid has a fascination with motorcycles. We were at the car show and he was rather ho-hum about it all until near the end and we ran across the ONLY bike at the show. All of a sudden he demanded I take picture of him with it. lol

bmwbike_zpshbbthsr6.jpg


As I queued up the camera, he started belting out "the pickle song" at the top of his lungs to the amusement of the old hippies in the crowd.

 
That Beemer your kid liked would make a kick-ass starter bike for anaconda!

It wouldn't appreciate but it has every modern convenience available and enough power to get out of trouble plus it's "flingable"....
 
anaconda said:
$6,000 gives this a lot of competition. This is kickstart only! Very Hipster, or possibly simply the A/F simplicity doctrine! I also heard somewhere that you can't kick start a fuel injected engine. But this appears to defy that story line. Very nice looking, sufficient power for me, not too big. Love the seat shape and length. Isn't 24 HP for 399cc's a bit stingy?
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De-compression device is built in.

The same way you pull start or hand crank a small direct injected diesel engine.

The 24 HP is in keeping with the bike's retro and simple design.

Sure, you could pull more power from 400cc...with water cooling and multiple cylinders and balanced cranks and ball bearing connecting rods...but that's not the point of this motorcycle....which is why I like it and it reflects what we talked about about before.

And so do millions of other people, cause they are selling like hotcakes.
 
tod evans said:
That Beemer your kid liked would make a kick-ass starter bike for anaconda!

It wouldn't appreciate but it has every modern convenience available and enough power to get out of trouble plus it's "flingable"....
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Are parts & labor pricey for BMWs?
 
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tod evans said:
Investment bikes that aren't Harley and aren't Jap;

Feel free to add what I miss!



Ace

Triumph

Moto Guzzi

BSA

Norton

Crocker

BMW

Indian

Excelsior

Ducati

Benelli

Royal Enfield

Vincent

Matchless

Zundapp
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ha... use-ta have one of these in my youth.
1969-benelli-dynamo-65-cc-3-speed-mini-bike-2.JPG
 
Apparently there is a wave of motorcycle thefts in the UK.

Grand Tour's James May weighs in:



BIKE THEFT - SOLVED

https://drivetribe.com/p/VNj_vFUgTNKalrVBDpzzjQ?iid=IYT8rdL6RLWQwr14htY-MQ

I’ve now spent several hours digesting the contents of Zander Warren’s post on motorcycle thieves (bit.ly/2qvqfno). I felt it was important not to rush into a response.

As someone who loves motorcycles, it’s an emotive issue; as someone whose new Triumph was badly damaged by thieves a few years ago, I find the idea that these gangs are brazenly roaming the streets, unchallenged, to be infuriating. Of course I do.

But the landscape of crime is never as simple as it seems. It’s all too easy to believe that a zero tolerance crackdown in the community with greater powers and funding for law enforcement agencies (blah blah whatever it is people say on radio phone-ins) is the right thing to say here. We could attempt to absolve society of its responsibilities and blame the bike makers, for not providing adequate built-in security. These are platitudes. We must deal with the problem of bike thieves at its source, by killing them.

It makes me shudder to write that. I, like any civilised person, am vehemently opposed to capital punishment and any other form of state-sponsored murder. Justice should not admit a public’s thirst for pure revenge. But that’s not what’s happening here. I have arrived at this conclusion not through knee-jerk reaction or impotent fury, but by a pure and unadulterated process of logic. They have to be killed.

'A PURE AND UNADULTERATED PROCESS OF LOGIC.'
JUDGE JAMES

As the law-abiding public, we are not permitted to take the law into our own hands. I’m not suggesting we do. The law already exists, viz: it’s wrong to steal motorcycles. It’s just that the law isn’t being enforced. The police seem unwilling or in some way unempowered to deal with it, the aggrieved people are unable to convene courts to try the perpetrators even if they could be caught, so they’ll just have to be killed. That way, they won’t nick any more bikes.

There is, as ever, the matter of morality to deal with. Many people imagine that theft is a cut and dried issue as far as morality is concerned, but this isn’t so. The ‘ethics of burglary’ is a subject worthy of debate because, let’s be clear, there comes a point within the disparity of wealth and personal circumstance of peoples where it is entirely reasonable. It’s what the Littleport Riots were all about.

I hate the idea of people nicking my stuff, but in all honesty, I’m pretty well off. If a genuinely desperate man on his last gasp nicks my coat from the pub on a freezing night, well, he’s welcome to it. It’ll change his life, mine’s only inconvenienced by having to buy another one. Even a truly desperate drug addict can have my coat. He’s made a mistake somewhere in life and I haven’t, which is my good fortune. But the people we’re talking about here are just wankers nicking bikes for profit, so we should kill them.

It has, like The Archers, gone on long enough. What many assume is a spate of petty theft is in fact a threat to societal stability. These thieves are not merely taking other people’s property, they are threatening anyone who opposes them with power tools, machetes and mediaeval debonkers. As several people have already pointed out, someone is going to be killed.

In which case, it might as well be them.
 
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Anti Federalist said:
Apparently there is a wave of motorcycle thefts in the UK.

Grand Tour's James May weighs in:



BIKE THEFT - SOLVED

https://drivetribe.com/p/VNj_vFUgTNKalrVBDpzzjQ?iid=IYT8rdL6RLWQwr14htY-MQ

I’ve now spent several hours digesting the contents of Zander Warren’s post on motorcycle thieves (bit.ly/2qvqfno). I felt it was important not to rush into a response.

As someone who loves motorcycles, it’s an emotive issue; as someone whose new Triumph was badly damaged by thieves a few years ago, I find the idea that these gangs are brazenly roaming the streets, unchallenged, to be infuriating. Of course I do.

But the landscape of crime is never as simple as it seems. It’s all too easy to believe that a zero tolerance crackdown in the community with greater powers and funding for law enforcement agencies (blah blah whatever it is people say on radio phone-ins) is the right thing to say here. We could attempt to absolve society of its responsibilities and blame the bike makers, for not providing adequate built-in security. These are platitudes. We must deal with the problem of bike thieves at its source, by killing them.

It makes me shudder to write that. I, like any civilised person, am vehemently opposed to capital punishment and any other form of state-sponsored murder. Justice should not admit a public’s thirst for pure revenge. But that’s not what’s happening here. I have arrived at this conclusion not through knee-jerk reaction or impotent fury, but by a pure and unadulterated process of logic. They have to be killed.

'A PURE AND UNADULTERATED PROCESS OF LOGIC.'
JUDGE JAMES

As the law-abiding public, we are not permitted to take the law into our own hands. I’m not suggesting we do. The law already exists, viz: it’s wrong to steal motorcycles. It’s just that the law isn’t being enforced. The police seem unwilling or in some way unempowered to deal with it, the aggrieved people are unable to convene courts to try the perpetrators even if they could be caught, so they’ll just have to be killed. That way, they won’t nick any more bikes.

There is, as ever, the matter of morality to deal with. Many people imagine that theft is a cut and dried issue as far as morality is concerned, but this isn’t so. The ‘ethics of burglary’ is a subject worthy of debate because, let’s be clear, there comes a point within the disparity of wealth and personal circumstance of peoples where it is entirely reasonable. It’s what the Littleport Riots were all about.

I hate the idea of people nicking my stuff, but in all honesty, I’m pretty well off. If a genuinely desperate man on his last gasp nicks my coat from the pub on a freezing night, well, he’s welcome to it. It’ll change his life, mine’s only inconvenienced by having to buy another one. Even a truly desperate drug addict can have my coat. He’s made a mistake somewhere in life and I haven’t, which is my good fortune. But the people we’re talking about here are just wankers nicking bikes for profit, so we should kill them.

It has, like The Archers, gone on long enough. What many assume is a spate of petty theft is in fact a threat to societal stability. These thieves are not merely taking other people’s property, they are threatening anyone who opposes them with power tools, machetes and mediaeval debonkers. As several people have already pointed out, someone is going to be killed.

In which case, it might as well be them.
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In anticipation of this, I looked into motorcycle anti-theft solutions a while back. There are several. One cool idea was where you get a cheap smart phone and put it somewhere discreet on board your bike and install this app that uses the phone's GPS capability. If your bike is moved from a very small and specific geometric perimeter the phone starts texting or calling you. I believe it then uses the GPS to track the bike's location. I suppose if the thieves discover the phone too soon than the strategy fails.
 
I see this now going on over on the Embarcadero on the waterfront in San Francisco.

 
anaconda said:
This would be a very appropriate vehicle for me...expressive of who I am. It's called an "Air Head!"

Unfortunately, I do not yet possess the wrench skills to take on much of a "project bike." :(
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For the money you could pay someone to instruct you on a total rebuild and own a cycle you could work on 100% by yourself....All for less than $6k
 
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