Bachmann Gets To Go To Tampa Thanks To Generous Paul Supporter

[Carlybee]

Why do people think that having a congressional title automatically means that person deserves respect? We dont have royalty here and we dont need to bow and curtsy.

 

[coffeewithchess]

Why do they keep saying he's "not competing" or has "dropped out"?

See, it's a two way street really.
When you have an inept campaign, and dishonest news media...they kind of fit together perfectly.

 

[coffeewithchess]

Why do people think that having a congressional title automatically means that person deserves respect? We dont have royalty here and we dont need to bow and curtsy.

This. Michele Bachmann is a lying piece of trash politician IMO. She deserves to get kicked out of D.C. in the next race, and allowing these people to go somewhere when you can stop them...well I don't agree it at all.
She is not entitled to anything, and she ran around Iowa the last 2 weeks flatout lying about RP's positions. She deserves unemployment, not $170K a year job with special benefits. Have RP supporters seriously not learned anything? Bow to the system, and it will continue to step on you.

 

[jmdrake]

Well personally I wouldn't have stepped aside for MB. But I can't say it was a bad trade. One more delegate vote versus free publicity and goodwill? (Not from MB, but from people that like MB and RS as well as RP). That could be worth something in the long run.

 

[skyorbit]

In a perfect world, no. In reality, Bachman will do whatever she thinks she needs to do for her career. She's as conservative as the rest of her party - in words only.

Maybe they can convince her voting for Ron Paul is what would be best for her career, given that Ron Paulians now run the MN GOP.

 

[trey4sports]

so can we primary her in two years if she continues her statist path?

 

[TheGrinch]

Well personally I wouldn't have stepped aside for MB. But I can't say it was a bad trade. One more delegate vote versus free publicity and goodwill? (Not from MB, but from people that like MB and RS as well as RP). That could be worth something in the long run.

Agreed. We beat them by being better than the people we're trying to beat... I think it's a great story that they were resilient enough to take all the delegates, but threw her a bone to not look like we're just trying to pull something sheisty by demanding them all.... We've got a good thing going in Minnesota, and they probably didn't see it worth messing with that just for 1 delegate, when we took all the other 12.

Public perception does matter, especially when there will be future slates that we don't want to give any ammo to take it all back.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Maybe they can convince her voting for Ron Paul is what would be best for her career, given that Ron Paulians now run the MN GOP.

Yes, that's a good point

 

[jbauer]

Ding Ding!! I love the saying "my way or the highway" but in the long run a simple gesture like this could make a difference. If we loose to Romney by 1 vote we all have the right to be ticked. We will NOT be able to push for liberty without the establishment's voters aka republicans. Why do you think Ron is a republican? He wouldnt' be able to get it done as a 3rd party and neither will we.

Well personally I wouldn't have stepped aside for MB. But I can't say it was a bad trade. One more delegate vote versus free publicity and goodwill? (Not from MB, but from people that like MB and RS as well as RP). That could be worth something in the long run.

 

[kahless]

She was ruthless on her way out against Ron Paul and burned those bridges. Great way to give her exposure and a face time to trash Ron Paul and his polices again at the Convention. How may times do people need to be burned before they learn a lesson.

 

[EBounding]

While I wouldn't have given up the slot, it's a good gesture that might help in the long run. Maybe she'll feel enormous guilt about what she said about Ron? Compromising on things like this is much better than compromising on issues and principles.

 

[jmdrake]

She was ruthless on her way out against Ron Paul and burned those bridges. Great way to give her exposure and a face time to trash Ron Paul and his polices again at the Convention. How may times do people need to be burned before they learn a lesson.

I'll bet you one Klingon warship + a ceremonial batliff that she doesn't do that. As the Ferengi would say "there would be no profit" in that for her.

 

[Carlybee]

Agreed. We beat them by being better than the people we're trying to beat... I think it's a great story that they were resilient enough to take all the delegates, but threw her a bone to not look like we're just trying to pull something sheisty by demanding them all.... We've got a good thing going in Minnesota, and they probably didn't see it worth messing with that just for 1 delegate, when we took all the other 12.

Public perception does matter, especially when there will be future slates that we don't want to give any ammo to take it all back.

How would it be sheisty by taking what you worked for and earned? Especially given the delegates that have been stolen through the opposition's fraud and theft in other caucuses? The perception is already that Rp delegates are disruptive rabble rousers even when they aren't. Who really thinks this will buy any goodwill in the media or in Tampa when she votes Romney? Oh well too late to worry about it now.

 

[Carlybee]

Remember when she did this? http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...says-ron-paul-paid-key-iowa-staffer-to-switch

 

[TheGrinch]

How would it be sheisty by taking what you worked for and earned? Especially given the delegates that have been stolen through the opposition's fraud and theft in other caucuses? The perception is already that Rp delegates are disruptive rabble rousers even when they aren't. Who really thinks this will buy any goodwill in the media or in Tampa when she votes Romney? Oh well too late to worry about it now.

It's not sheisty, I'm jsut talking about perceptions, but you're right, they'll paint it negative regardless, but how about gracious winners then... The last thing you want to do is fire up another irate minority to want to take back over, and this might help get people who like Bachman to our side, or at least not against us like they would be if they'd just taken all 13 spots.

Don't read too much into it. It was an extremely small gesture, and as was said above, I'd rather make small concessions on things like this than have to make actual concessions on our ideals.

 

[Gray Fullbuster]

Gj to the delegates.

and even after Bacchman slapped Paul on the cheek, the supporters turned their other cheek and then held out their hands.
She took the hand.
Very nice gesture.

 

[singe22]

I can't help but remember that on 12/15/2011 Bachmann assured us all that I ran was only a couple of months away from having a nuclear weapon. Given that it she also assured us that Iran would not hesitate to use a nuke on Israel, I am left a bit confused. I figured Iran most certainly would have their nuke by 3/15 or 4/15 tops. Here we are at 5/22 and Israel still has not been wiped from the face of the map... could it be that Michele Bachmann is a fucking idiot that doesn't know what the hell she is talking about... or is she just a lying asshole?

if i knew how to give rep ++++++for you

 

[singe22]

The only kind gesture the founders gave was a headstart home across the sea to those that didnt want to take part in the revolution. They didnt offer King George supporters a voice. The one Abstain during the passing of the Declaration of Independance got the hell out of dodge. You people are going to get burned again. Neo cons dont and will not have grassroots to be a irrate minority when the tables turns. All they have are mindless zombies who will vote for the "slick rick" politician who gives lip service to the constitution but their record doesnt follow that.

 

[Mahkato]

When your opponent is bloodied and gasping for breath, you offer them your hand and help them stand up. The move was a very important one for the future of the liberty movement in the MNGOP. It made a big impression on the rank-and-file Republicans who attended the convention, and it will be remembered. We were mistreated when we were in the minority and we acted with honor and integrity when we took the majority. We need them as much as they need us in order to win against Senator Klobuchar this fall, and this move will help make that happen.

 

[DGustafson]

Part of the plan is to take the Kurt Bills for Senate ECON 101 bus down to Tampa to show party unity. MB will hopefully be pressured into that trip. Then we'll ditch her at a Waffle House in rural Indiana.