Baby Alfie Evans and Family Lose Last-ditch Appeal to Save Child From Certain Death

[Swordsmyth]

The Royals have no say in the situation and avoid commenting on anything.

If they spoke things would change, they speak when they want to.

 

[Zippyjuan]

If they spoke things would change, they speak when they want to.

They avoid any controversies.

 

[Swordsmyth]

They avoid any controversies.

Not when they want to.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Not when they want to.

Examples?

 

[Anti Federalist]

I try to renounce violence. But damn it to Hell. If that were my son I would riot. I would lead a mob into that hospital, take my son, and take him to the Italian helicopter. Or I would die trying. Even as a distant third person my rage at something like this is barely containable.

We all say that.

We all hope we will have the courage to do so.

We all, almost universally, fail to do so.

This shit happens every single day, medical fascists condemn us death, cops kill our loved ones and pets with impunity, government unleashes hellfire and missiles around the globe indiscriminately killing men, women and children, theye take our lives our property our families our dignity and our liberty daily.

And not one in a thousand so much as raises their voice in protest, much less strikes back with righteous, calculated and well applied force.

If we were one tenth of the men that the revolutionary colonists were, our oppressors would be hanging by their entrails from every streetlight in every capital city across this country.

But we are not.

So here we sit.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Examples?

• Monday 19 October 1992 23:02 BST

IN A MOVE unlikely to please many Conservatives at home, the Queen began her state visit to Germany yesterday with a determinedly political declaration of Britain's commitment to Europe. 'We British are Europeans,' she told guests at the welcoming banquet hosted by President Richard von Weizsacker. 'That means that we are your partners in the European Community, working closely with our friends and allies for prosperity and peace.'The Queen also tackled head-on the highly sensitive matter of the falling-out between London and Bonn over the past few months. 'British-German friendship is a living reality,' she said, adding that 'we have too much to lose to allow' quarrels to undermine the relationship.
The decision by Buckingham Palace and the presidential office in Bonn to invest the five-day royal visit with such a manifest European message, at a time when the British government's policy over Maastricht is under attack at home, will be interpreted as an unusually bold political intervention by the Queen. For the first time on a royal state visit, the European Community flag flies alongside the Union flag and the German colours.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-queen-speaks-out-for-europe-1558425.html



THE QUEEN has spoken out after a huge fire destroyed a tower block in London killing at least 17 people.

By David Rivers / Published 15th June 2017

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/622536/The-Queen-London-Grenfell-Tower-fire


Nov. 27, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Britain's Queen Elizabeth has weighed in on the global climate debate, urging the 53 Commonwealth of Nations members to forge a united front.
The queen told leaders of the countries gathered in Trinidad and Tobago ahead of a global summit in Copenhagen, Denmark, next month failure to act on on global warming issues would adversely impact the world's poor, the Globe and Mail reported Friday. The commonwealth has an opportunity to be world leaders on the issue, she said.

"The threat to our environment is not a new concern," she said. "But it is now a global challenge which will continue to affect the security and stability of millions for years to come.
"Many of those affected are among the most vulnerable. And many of the people least well able to withstand the adverse effects of climate change live in the commonwealth."

https://www.upi.com/Queen-Elizabeth-speaks-out-on-climate/57891259358496/



8:01PM BST 24 Jun 2015

The Queen said that division in Europe was “dangerous”, ahead of crucial negotiations in Brussels that could shape the future of the EU.

In a speech at a state banquet in Berlin, attended by David Cameron and Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, Her Majesty emphasised Britain’s “key part” in the shaping of the Continent.

She also lauded Britain’s “irreversible” friendship with Germany since the Second World War.

Her comments are likely to be interpreted as a plea for Britain to remain a member of the European Union, with a referendum due on the issue before the end of 2017.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...debate-as-she-says-division-is-dangerous.html




I don't intend to waste any more time but anyone can find more if they look.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Your list shows that political comments by the Royal Family are indeed rare events.

The Queen's "political statement" following the fire- according to your link?

This morning Her Majesty said her "thoughts and prayers are with those families who have lost loved ones in the Grenfell Tower fire and the many people who are still critically ill in hospital".

 

[Anti Federalist]

It's worse than even socialized medicine- it's about the gov owning your child.

They own all of us and our property.

 

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43933056

Alfie Evans: Legal battle toddler dies

Alfie Evans, the 23-month-old toddler at the centre of a High Court legal battle, has died, nearly a week after his life support was withdrawn.

The boy from Merseyside, who had a degenerative brain condition, died at 02:30 BST, his father Tom Evans said.

On Facebook he wrote: "My gladiator lay down his shield and gained his wings... absolutely heartbroken."

Alfie's parents lost legal challenges against a High Court ruling allowing the hospital to withdraw ventilation.

The boy had his life support withdrawn on Monday after being in a semi-vegetative state for more than a year.

The legal campaign, launched by Mr Evans and Alfie's mother Kate James, attracted widespread media attention and saw them clash with doctors over the child's treatment.

A statement from Alder Hey Children's Hospital in Liverpool, where Alfie was treated, said staff expressed their "heartfelt sympathy".

"All of us feel deeply for Alfie, Kate, Tom and his whole family and our thoughts are with them. This has been a devastating journey for them."

Alfie, who was born in May 2016, was first admitted to Alder Hey hospital the following December after suffering seizures, and had been a patient at the hospital ever since.

His parents, who live in Bootle, wanted to fly the toddler to a hospital in Italy for treatment, but this was rejected by doctors who said continuing treatment was "not in Alfie's best interests".

The hospital said scans showed "catastrophic degradation of his brain tissue" and that further treatment was not only "futile" but also "unkind and inhumane".

The court battle between Alfie's parents and medical staff lasted for four months.

The couple heavily criticised medical staff, with Mr Evans suggesting his son was a "prisoner" at the hospital and had been misdiagnosed.

Hospital bosses were backed by the High Court, which ruled in their favour on 20 February, after accepting medical evidence that there was "no hope" for the youngster.

Alfie's parents contested the ruling, but the Court of Appeal upheld it, and attempts to argue the case at the Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) were rejected.

Alfie's case brought swathes of international support including from Pope Francis, who tweeted support for the family and asked that "their desire to seek new forms of treatment may be granted".

Earlier in April Mr Evans visited Pope Francis in Rome, pleading with him to "save our son".

Alfie was granted Italian citizenship on Monday, with the country's ministry of foreign affairs saying it hoped the toddler could have an "immediate transfer to Italy".

His parents then began a further appeal against the order stopping them from taking him to Italy however judges at the Court of Appeal upheld a ruling preventing the toddler from travelling abroad after life support was withdrawn.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/28/alfie-evans-dies-after-withdrawal-of-life-support

Alfie had been in a semi-vegetative state and scans of his brain had shown that almost all of it had been destroyed.

After accepting that their options had been exhausted, Alfie’s parents sought to build bridges with medical staff and pledged to work alongside doctors to give him “the dignity and comfort” he needed.

Evans said on Thursday: “We ... thank Alder Hey staff at every level for their dignity and professionalism during what must be an incredibly difficult time for them too.

“Together we recognise the strains recent events have put upon us all and we now wish for privacy for everyone concerned.”

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/28/health/alfie-evans-british-toddler-dies-intl/index.html

Alfie's father had traveled to Rome earlier this month to meet Pope Francis, who had expressed his backing for their cause, and a hospital in Rome offered to treat the toddler.

However, a subsequent visit to Alfie and consultation with his doctors led the Roman doctors to conclude that the child's condition was irreversible and untreatable, according to a statement from Alder Hey.

 

[Ender]

Alfie's father had traveled to Rome earlier this month to meet Pope Francis, who had expressed his backing for their cause, and a hospital in Rome offered to treat the toddler.

However, a subsequent visit to Alfie and consultation with his doctors led the Roman doctors to conclude that the child's condition was irreversible and untreatable, according to a statement from Alder Hey.

Not exactly.

Three specialists from Bambino Gesu had flown to Liverpool and examined Alfie. According to the president of Bambino Gesu, "a positive outcome would be difficult, but the baby's suffering can be alleviated."

https://www.americamagazine.org/pol...cize-court-refusal-allow-alfie-evans-go-italy

 

[donnay]

The Royals have no say in the situation and avoid commenting on anything.

Twenty years after the death of the princess, Diana’s legacy lives on in ways both large and small. A red scallop, a heraldic symbol of the Spencers, was included in the design of the royal coats of arms granted to her sons. Her image appeared on a commemorative 1999 5-pound coin, proceeds of which went to fund other memorial projects. Her famous gowns toured the world. Her iconic sapphire and diamond engagement ring reappeared on the hand of Catherine Middleton when she became engaged in 2010 to Prince William. A memorial fund created in Diana’s name gave 727 grants to 471 organizations totaling 112 million pounds (almost $145 million). And her sons and daughter-in-law continue to promulgate and support humanitarian and charitable causes that meant much to her.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/ct-life-diana-legacy-20170829-story.html

One of Diana's charities that is supposed to live on through her sons and their wives:

Palliative Care

The Diana, Princess of Wales Fund supports palliative care. Palliative care is an approach to caring for people who are dying. It is a holistic way of enabling people to die with dignity and to support the families through the grieving process.

http://www.britishroyals.info/diana/biography7.html

 

[Pauls' Revere]

[sic] "socialism requires citizen confidence to operate, it will settle for coercion to gain compliance." - That's a powerful statement. Thank you Ender for posting.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The couple heavily criticised medical staff, with Mr Evans suggesting his son was a "prisoner" at the hospital and had been misdiagnosed.

He could not leave of his own accord.

If people helped him to leave, in defiance of the state medical fascists, heavily armed state enforcers would have, ultimately, killed anybody trying to bring him outside the hospital walls.

That is the very definition of a "prisoner".

There is no fucking "suggestion" about it.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Your list shows that political comments by the Royal Family are indeed rare events.

Would not state sanctioned infanticide qualify as a "rare event".

They didn't comment because they are the vanguard of the old feudalism, ushering in the new feudalism.

You are a "subject" owned by the royalty, and you live or die at their whim.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Your list shows that political comments by the Royal Family are indeed rare events.

I could find more if I wanted to let you waste my time.

The Queen's "political statement" following the fire- according to your link?

In the first place we aren't talking about "political" statements, we are talking about controversies, second I never said they weren't rare I said they speak up when they want to.
This is the second child to make international news and they haven't even made a statement saying that it is a sad thing and that their thoughts and prayers are with the families, the pope and Trump have been involved but the royals haven't even reacted to them.
They say nothing in these cases because they are happy with the outcome.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Alfie Evans, the 23-month-old British toddler whose grave illness drew international attention, died early on Saturday, his family said.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ler-alfie-evans-dies-in-britain-idUSKBN1HZ069

 

[Swordsmyth]

It’s bad enough that the British government played medical judge and jury before the death of little Alfie Evans, denying his parents the opportunity to take him to Italy for care. They also, say critics, have used the hate-speech principle to cover up their own complicity.
As LifeNews.com reported Wednesday, before Alfie passed on:
British police have announced that they will monitor and prosecute anyone who posts on social media a “malicious communication” supporting Alfie Evans or complaining about the hospital and courts.
Nevermind [sic] that Alder Hey Children’s Hospital is apparently misleading the court about Alfie, if anyone posts anything negative about the hospital or its officials and their treatment of Alfie, apparently they will be monitored and potentially prosecuted by local police in London.
At issue is the tweet below, sent by UK police:

Here is the Facebook post to which the tweet links:

More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/worl...laws-to-try-to-cover-up-murder-of-alfie-evans

 

[H_H]

In the first place we aren't talking about "political" statements, we are talking about controversies, second I never said they weren't rare I said they speak up when they want to.

You see what he did, though? And this is what any skilled debater will do to you, every time. He TOTALLY IGNORED all the other stories you posted -- and there could have been 100 of them -- and latched onto the weakest instance. You see how that works? It's really effective.

Completely shows bad faith and blatant insincerity and total disinterest in having any type of real conversation. But effective.

You should have left out the fire comment. Tip for next time, see. A list is only as strong as its weakest member.

 

[thetruthhurtsthefed]

looks like another case of vaccine damage. His condition began after he was issued 6 vaccines in one sitting. British law indicates (via their ministry of health website) that vaccine damage compensation can only occur from the age of 2 and on.....he was turning 2 in 14 days before they starved him to death. The government was worried about a definite payout for vaccine damages. If he had gone to Italy, they would have figured it all out.
I feel for the parents. I really do. they need to move out from Britain and start over. Move as far from that island as possible

 

[PierzStyx]

We all say that.

We all hope we will have the courage to do so.

We all, almost universally, fail to do so.

This $#@! happens every single day, medical fascists condemn us death, cops kill our loved ones and pets with impunity, government unleashes hellfire and missiles around the globe indiscriminately killing men, women and children, theye take our lives our property our families our dignity and our liberty daily.

And not one in a thousand so much as raises their voice in protest, much less strikes back with righteous, calculated and well applied force.

If we were one tenth of the men that the revolutionary colonists were, our oppressors would be hanging by their entrails from every streetlight in every capital city across this country.

But we are not.

So here we sit.

I think Jefferson's insight about human nature and government is spot on:

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

As long as it isn't our lives that are hit the hardest not many are willing to do anything about it.