Austin: Libertarian BLM Protester Shot Dead

[ClaytonB]

One of the people chasing Rittenhouse fired shots before Rittenhouse was run down.

And how many people did Perry hit when he “drove into a crowd”? Where was he supposed to go? In reverse?

Don't you know? Foster was forced to "defend" himself by "approaching" Perry's vehicle!!

 

[jmdrake]

Foster was defending himself when he approached Perry's car.

It's deceitful of you to try to put words in my mouth by quoting me as saying "Foster was defending himself when he approached Perry's car." I didn't say that and I didn't quote that.

Now what was Foster doing walking around a protest with an AK47? I dunno. He shouldn't have done that. And Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn't have been walking around a protest with an AR15 either.

 

[jmdrake]

I don't know if he's stated his reasons for that,

Stop right there. If you don't have the answer to that basic question then you should take your arse off your high horse.

but are you suggesting that Perry was just on a rampage to run people over, or something?

I haven't suggested anything. I asked a question.

 

[ClaytonB]

It's deceitful of you to try to put words in my mouth by quoting me as saying "Foster was defending himself when he approached Perry's car." I didn't say that and I didn't quote that.

You don't want to play me for a punk, get that through your skull right now, for your own benefit. HERE is where you quoted it:

You're the wrong dog barking up the wrong tree on the wrong street in the wrong zip-code. Make better life-choices... seriously.

 

[jmdrake]

Don't you know? Foster was forced to "defend" himself by "approaching" Perry's vehicle!!

Kyle Rittenhouse was "forced" to defend himself when Rosenberg set a dumpster on fire.

 

[ClaytonB]

Stop right there. If you don't have the answer to that basic question then you should take your arse off your high horse.

I think I'm just fine sitting right here on this high-horse stomping you into a mudhole and walking it dry. You're just another Mouthpiece blindly parroting Establishment propganda. Buzz off.

 

[ClaytonB]

Kyle Rittenhouse was "forced" to defend himself when Rosenberg set a dumpster on fire.

Rittenhouse isn't my issue and not the topic of the thread. He has as much to do with Perry defending himself from a crowd of Antifa thugs as does the Man in the Moon. You're out of touch with reality.

 

[jmdrake]

You don't want to play me for a punk, get that through skull right now, for your own benefit. HERE is where you quoted it:

You're the wrong dog barking up the wrong tree on the wrong street in the wrong zip-code. Make better life-choices... seriously.

Umm...if you want to call yourself a punk go right ahead. So you went back up earlier in the thread to find every place where I quoted any story as opposed to the direct quote? Yeah...that's a punk move. But okay. An honest person (not you) knows that I haven't made an issue of whether or not the guy with the AK47 was defending himself. I just posted the news stories as I found them with the context. You took that quote out of context. Shame on you.

On to your point about the "rolling red light." You can't do that when you're turning into a group of pedestrians! Perry was Uber driving. I did Uber driving as well for a while. Downtown Nashville is ALWAYS as crowded on a Saturday night as that video. And even when it's legal to turn right on red, you are supposed to stop and wait for the pedestrians to clear out first. Perry didn't do that. He created a dangerous situation for no explicable reason.

 

[jmdrake]

I think I'm just fine sitting right here on this high-horse stomping you into a mudhole and walking it dry. You're just another Mouthpiece blindly parroting Establishment propganda. Buzz off.

You don't own the forum.

 

[jmdrake]

Rittenhouse isn't my issue and not the topic of the thread. He has as much to do with Perry defending himself from a crowd of Antifa thugs as does the Man in the Moon. You're out of touch with reality.

I brought up Rittenhouse as a comparison. If you want to discuss what I've said, instead taking your out of context quoting of references that I used, then discuss what I said. Otherwise buzz off.

 

[ClaytonB]

Bark back with your gaslighting tactics all you want, it will do you no good. You've proven your "mettle" in this thread for all to see.

 

[jmdrake]

Don't you know? Foster was forced to "defend" himself by "approaching" Perry's vehicle!!

According to Texas law, even when a driver can make a legal left or right turn, he must yield to pedestrians in the crosswalk.

https://www.austintexas.gov/sites/d...nsportation/Ped_Safety_and_the_Law_Austin.pdf

There were pedestrians in and out of the crosswalk. Perry created a dangerous situation. As to [MENTION=1874]Brian4Liberty[/MENTION]'s point, you don't have to actually run over someone to be guilty of reckless driving. And technically assault is "putting someone in fear of imminent context that is harmful or offensive." If you drive at me and I jump out of the way, that's still assault. Where was he supposed to go? He didn't have to go anywhere. He could have stopped his vehicle and patiently waited. If he had stopped at the red light, and THEN Foster had come up to him that would have been a different situation altogether. I get it. "Conservative gooood....antifa baaaaaad." But the law isn't supposed to work that way.

 

[jmdrake]

Bark back with your gaslighting tactics all you want, it will do you no good. You've proven your "mettle" in this thread for all to see.

I don't think you know what the word "gaslighting" even means. And what I've proven is that I'm not a brain dead drone that goes along with mob / group think even if I generally agree with said group on other things. Integrity. You should try it sometime.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I also don't see how you get that he "did not provoke the person against whom the force was used" when the un rebutted facts are that he ran a red light and drove towards the protestors.

Item B (3) specifically exempts traffic violations as justification for use of force (in this case against Perry).

Has the state proved, beyond reasonable doubt, that Perry ran that red light with malicious intent?

Or was it simply a traffic violation occurring while trying to do his job as an Uber driver, being suddenly surrounded by an armed and threatening mob?

A mob that did in fact open fire on him as he drove off.

 

[Anti Federalist]

But the law isn't supposed to work that way.

I don't know if you have noticed, but, the law is officially lawless in this country.

We are at war with an enemy that is so ruthless that, if victorious, they will exterminate both me and you and our families.

If I can get one of theirs dusted and save one of mine in the process, so be it.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If the bar for a pardon is "A juror might have reasonably voted for an acquittal in this case" then there are a lot of people in prison who should get pardons.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Why did he run the red light?

Who knows?

Can it be proved he had malicious intent?

 

[ClaytonB]

Who knows?

Can it be proved he had malicious intent?

It can be proved that he did not have malicious intent because, as soon as he rounds the corner (navigating between the protestors in the intersection), he came to a stop because the crowd was too dense, unlike the Kenosha psychopath. After someone thumped his vehicle and Foster brandished or pointed his firearm at Perry, Perry fired in self-defense as I believe I would likely have done in his situation.

Once again, the litmus test to determine whether Perry's actions were reasonable or malicious couldn't be simpler: Would a police officer in Perry's exact situation be charged for doing what Perry did? Of course not. This is a purely political prosecution. It is a witch-hunt and it is yet another piss-poor example of "governing from the bench"...

 

[Anti Federalist]

It can be proved that he did not have malicious intent because, as soon as he rounds the corner (navigating between the protestors in the intersection), he came to a stop because the crowd was too dense, unlike the Kenosha psychopath. After someone thumped his vehicle and Foster brandished or pointed his firearm at Perry, Perry fired in self-defense as I believe I would likely have done in his situation.

Once again, the litmus test to determine whether Perry's actions were reasonable or malicious couldn't be simpler: Would a police officer in Perry's exact situation be charged for doing what Perry did? Of course not. This is a purely political prosecution. It is a witch-hunt and it is yet another piss-poor example of "governing from the bench"...

I can't even say it was from the bench, meaning a single judge.

A Marxist DA cherry picked a Bolshevik mob of jurors to get a conviction, all legal beagle like.

 

[ClaytonB]

I can't even say it was from the bench, meaning a single judge.

A Marxist DA cherry picked a Bolshevik mob of jurors to get a conviction, all legal beagle like.

They've been getting away with it for a long time, and so they imagine that this is "how the world works". They do not understand covenant law, and they do not understand the true basis of the authority of the courts. It's not black robes and funny wigs...

"Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot." (Deut. 19:21)

All will be paid back in due time. Nothing is more certain.