August 21, 1992: The Siege at Ruby Ridge

Not to imply that you had! We've just found that titles like these grab the average Joe's attention a little better. Sounds a lot better than Siege at Ruby Ridge: Everything You Already Knew About the ATF Shootout That Started a Militia Movement.
 
I would say...kind of an overreaction to a guy possibly selling shotguns with barrels less in length than by what the Official Fatwas decreed. Just kind of...
 
Danke said:
I would say...kind of an overreaction to a guy possibly selling shotguns with barrels less in length than by what the Official Fatwas decreed. Just kind of...
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They were looking to make an example of someone, anyone.
 
Occam's Banana said:
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And let the record show that Weaver did not, in fact, buy or sell any illegal firearms. From Wiki: "A federal grand jury indicted Weaver in December 1990 for making and possessing, but not for selling, illegal weapons in October 1989." And note that this incident was the only aspect of the entire war campaign waged by the Feds against Weaver that was not wholly a figment of their fevered imagination. He did indeed have a few weapons under legal length. He was also a military veteran (Green Beret) ... so this is the kind of thing that, if the ATF really had an issue with it, should have been handled delicately and in accordance with common-sense. Why are you throwing the book at someone that you yourselves trained and armed with C4 and automatic weapons?? The story doesn't add up because the real reasons the Weavers were attacked had nothing to do with firearms and everything to do with an out-of-control Federal police state that has only gotten a trillion times worse since then. God help any innocent caught in its jaws nowadays...
 
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August 21, 1992: The Siege at Ruby Ridge

April 19, 1993: The Waco Siege & Massacre
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Ruby Ridge & Waco - two horns on the same devil.

Occam's Banana said:
[...] I had been willing to chalk the incident at Ruby Ridge [1] up to a "glitch" along the lines of "no system is perfect, human existence is tragic, the rain falls on the just and the unjust, and sometimes, shit happens and things just fall between the cracks".

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[1] Ironically, the Waco fiasco was initially motivated as an attempt to "rehabilitate" the feds' image after the eye-blacking they had given themselves at Ruby Ridge. That's why they had a press pool ready and waiting to go just a few miles away right before the raid, so their glorious return to form could be well-documented for public consumption. Then, when their zero-dark-thirty hut-hutting blew up in their faces, they could only try to save what face they had left by doubling down on their brutal viciousness, out of fear of otherwise appearing to be weak and/or incompetent. IOW: The slaughtered victims of Waco were martyrs to an ill-conceived and badly botched publicity stunt - a goddam fucking publicity stunt - and every asshole who was responsible got off scot-free. (At least for Ruby Ridge, Louis Freeh, who would go on to become director of the FBI, got a letter of reprimand placed in his personnel file. It went right alongside the letter of reprimand he got for losing one of the agency's wireless phones.)
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