Audio update - Jim DeMint on Mike Gallagher only talking about Ron Paul

[ctiger2]

DeMint must have actually listened to Ron's speech last night and understood it. If he really understands it, an endorsement is a no-brainer. We're waiting...

 

[ThePiousPriest]

PPP in their polling showed that whole a Haley endorsement didn't sway many, a Demint endorsement was worth 19 points. I think it was in the cross tabs from a poll last week. Demint is going to wait before he endorses. See what happens in a debate or 2 first. An endorsement would be enormous.

That's because Haley is being seen as a sellout and DeMint as someone who has the track record and the guts to stand for his beliefs around here. If only I could say that about our other Senator . Can't wait to try to vote out Graham, but he has a massive war chest.

 

[agorist ninja]

Again, don't fall for it.

DeMint was one of the first politicians to co-opt the Tea Party for the establishment. He started traveling around on his tour bus, appearing on Fox News, claiming to be on the ground floor of a populist movement. Next thing you know, there's the Tea Party Express, Sarah Palin parachuting in, and scores of other Big Government types pretending to "for the people". Sure, some good came out of it all (Rand and a few others), but now look at where the Tea Party is... They went for Romney over Dr. Paul 2 to 1 in NH last night. Think about that for a second.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's tin-foil hattery, too paranoid, etc.. But some of you just refuse to learn from history. DeMint, and his ilk, are not friends. The Establishment Order of the Beltway will never accept us. Stop wishing for it to be so. There's too much money and power at stake for those ensconced in that cesspool of tyranny.

The way we win is by convincing everyone else that giving a small minority of despots of lunatics all of the guns in the government isn't a good way for society to organize itself.

 

[brendan.orourke]

A DeMint endorsement would be huge and a game changer in SC. We already have some momentum, but that would push us over the top.

Yes, he needs to come out soon with an official endorsement.

 

[MsDoodahs]

There's an interesting political dynamic to all of this. A prominent Republican who endorses Paul will probably be disliked, at least temporarily, by the party.... but he stands to gain a ridiculously large, active, and donation-prone, following for doing so - especially if he can paint himself as a Rebel or Maverick for doing so. From a strictly political, completely unprincipled standpoint, it is an intriguing thing to consider.

very very true.

 

[libertygrl]

I'm in Greenville, SC listening to Gallagher. Hes got DeMint on and DeMint keeps talking about Paul. He hasn't even mentioned anyone else. keeps saying to pick the real conservative. theirs a choice between the big Government "conservative" and a real conservative and South Carolina voters need to make the right choice. IMO its a great interview for not endorsing Paul. real positives for Paul in their.


#Winning!

I saw some sort of poll this morning on tv that was taken in S. Carolina. The question to voters was something like which politican's endorsement would carry the most weight for your vote for a candidate, and Demint was at the top of the list with the highest percentage. He probably does like Paul best but to actually come out and endorse him, would require to step out of line with the establishment. The question is does he or anyone else have the backbone to do it. It sounds like he's sort of trying to influence people without actually coming out personally with an endorsement. But I'll take it just the same!

 

[pmbug]

Again, don't fall for it.

DeMint has been about as friendly as a GOP politician can be to Dr. Paul while still remaining in the good graces of the GOP establishment. If you are an inflexible "demand perfection!" sort, you will only see the warts on everybody. Politics is a messy game. It's shades of gray and success depends upon seeing clearly.

My $.02

 

[agorist ninja]

DeMint has been about as friendly as a GOP politician can be to Dr. Paul while still remaining in the good graces of the GOP establishment. If you are an inflexible "demand perfection!" sort, you will only see the warts on everybody. Politics is a messy game. It's shades of gray and success depends upon seeing clearly.

My $.02

I'm not saying refuse a potential DeMint endorsement. Just that it would be wise to not gush over him, and pretend he's one of us, given recent history. I do think he's about as honorable as one can be, while still being an establishment politician. But I damn with faint praise.

 

[SonofThunder]

I'm in Greenville, SC listening to Gallagher. Hes got DeMint on and DeMint keeps talking about Paul. He hasn't even mentioned anyone else. keeps saying to pick the real conservative. theirs a choice between the big Government "conservative" and a real conservative and South Carolina voters need to make the right choice. IMO its a great interview for not endorsing Paul. real positives for Paul in their.


#Winning!

His ass needs to endorse Paul, NOW. That's the only way he'll ever make up for not supporting Rand in the NDAA fight.

 

[angelatc]

I saw some sort of poll this morning on tv that was taken in S. Carolina. The question to voters was something like which politican's endorsement would carry the most weight for your vote for a candidate, and Demint was at the top of the list with the highest percentage. He probably does like Paul best but to actually come out and endorse him, would require to step out of line with the establishment. The question is does he or anyone else have the backbone to do it. It sounds like he's sort of trying to influence people without actually coming out personally with an endorsement. But I'll take it just the same!

Well, he isn't running for reelection, so that might make it a little easier. But OTOH, I don't think that the odds of Paul getting any endorsements from sitting Senators is very high unless he can actually win a primary or two.

 

[brandon]

There's an interesting political dynamic to all of this. A prominent Republican who endorses Paul will probably be disliked, at least temporarily, by the party.... but he stands to gain a ridiculously large, active, and donation-prone, following for doing so - especially if he can paint himself as a Rebel or Maverick for doing so. From a strictly political, completely unprincipled standpoint, it is an intriguing thing to consider.

Yep and I'm surprised no big shot politicians have jumped on this chance yet. Demint has a real opportunity here. Then again, if he is thinking about running in 2016 for the nomination against Rand, his endorsement here would wind up pretty inconsequential in regards to his political future.

 

[WIRP]

Demint has been one of the more reasonable establishment representatives. No doubt he's still a mainsteam politician, but he does seem to have some principles he tries to stick with, and that's what he's sympathetic to Ron Paul.

 

[bobmurph]

 

[tsai3904]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...emint-urges-republicans-to-listen-to-ron-paul

"One of the things that's hurt the so-called conservative alternative is saying negative things about Ron Paul," DeMint told conservative radio host Laura Ingraham. "I'd like to see a Republican party that embraces a lot of the libertarian ideas."

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/10/demint-predicts-romney-win-in-sc/

“I’m still not going to endorse, Mark, because Republicans are yet united and I want to focus on the Senate,” he said. “I think whoever gets elected as a Republican, I want to help deliver a conservative Senate, otherwise it doesn’t matter who is in the White House.”

Later in the program, DeMint predicted a Romney win in his state.

 

[jsgolfman]

Not sold on him, yet. That interview in the DC mentioned RP zero times. He made note of Santorum and Gingrich, but no Paul.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Wow!

Come on Jim, do what's right bro. Stand up for principle and endorse Ron.

 

[enrique]

He way Paul could get an endorsement before the SC primary is either he catches fire and looks competitive to win (which he's not in the latest poll) or Demint sees something that few in Washington do - there is a huge growing movement for Paul's positions. I don't think the movement is that big yet but maybe he'd like to hop on early. Him not endorsing is better than him endorsing Romney or santorum

 

[virginiakid]

As stated in the other thread, I think in a way he has already endorsed Ron Paul. It may not be the "I endorse Ron Paul," mantra, but it certainly speaks volumes when he has been on two national shows in one day praising Paul.

 

[Jack Bauer]

DeMint WANTS to endorse us.

He knows EVERYONE other than Paul is a PHONY.

But he will NOT endorse us because the GOP will NEVER forgive him if he does.

Basically, Jim DeMint is a COWARD.

 

[dusman]

I have had absolutely no time to get involved much recently, but I just wanted to contribute this, just for wishful purposes at the least.

Shortsightedness aside.. the impression we should make, must rest upon history and what could be:

Forgive the lack of quality and sloppiness.