ATTN: Huckleberries talking about outraising Rudys Reading List!!

[JaylieWoW]

Knowing that the media and supporters of other candidates view these forums, how does this help our cause? A lot of people are turned off of Ron Paul because they think his supporters are idiots.

Ok I'm not saying that if Judy jumps off the building then I'm going to jump off a building too. I agree, I would rather take the "moral high ground" on the mud slinging and political bashing. One of the reasons I've never gotten involved in politics is because I find all the senseless character assassination that goes on portrays a lack of confidence in one's self or in one's ideals. Further, I'm willing to bet most Americans find it distasteful as well.

However, have you ever scanned some of the real forums of other candidates' independent "grassroots" supporters?

Been to GOPUSA lately? I was banned from there for pointing out an obvious misrepresentation of fact using the exact same link the author provided. If I recall, I didn't even state that I was a Ron Paul supporter. I simply pointed out that something the author stated in his article was "at best an honest misrepresentation or at worst an outright lie".

I guess what I'm saying is I can understand how it is frustrating and the need to want to lash out against people who resort to name calling and flame wars. I guess their "judgments" of our positions and the perceived unpleasantness of a small number of Ron Paul supporters only applies to us and not to themselves. In other words, its ok for them to be name callers, but should a Ron Paul supporter do the same they think it just proves what they say about us is accurate.

I'd like to remove that assumption. I want a mud-proof, flame resistant movement to prove once and for all that we aren't mean spirited kooks and anti-government wingnuts.

So, is it hypocrisy on the part of detractors? Yeah, it is. But the important thing to remember about these people is that they aren't willing to abide by others having a different view than themselves. Keep in mind, many Americans WANT big government to protect them from having to be responsible for themselves. They WANT to be told what is right, what is wrong and they WANT government to be the vehicle to provide them with this.

We have generations of de-programming to contend with, let's not sink to their level!

Don' be lured by the temptation to lash out for being called names. Give our opponents enough rope to hang themselves ok?

 

[Dave Wood]

At least we will beat Rudy Giuliani's 3rd Quarter Fundraising Total today of $10,258,019 ... and a month early.

We really need to get us above $20 Million for the 4th Quarter. I hope it's possible, but that would be epic if we could accomplish it by making the Tea Party a huge success.

$7 Million for the Tea Party and another $2 Million for the rest of the month.

None of this from lobbyists. Awesome.

What we really need are some HONEST poll number in the double digits.

 

[Midnight77]

What we really need are some HONEST poll number in the double digits.

That could have happened, sadly, if more people would have rallied behind today's fundraiser. More time to rise in the polls and stop Huckabee's momentum. This is going to cost us, as now Huckabee has 2 more weeks to shine in the Media.

 

[Rhys]

We still have a BLIMP! That should be tomorrow, right?

Besides... we're raising a lot of money. Enough for another tv run in Iowa.

Guys, don't forget how "Amazing, amazing" Nov. 5 was. 4.3mil in a day is like seeing Jesus walk on water.

The media may dog us for not getting 2.5mil but that's our fault for thinking we could with 8 days and little advertising.

We got big for our britches on this one, but that doesn't mean we're not totally succeeding in realistic terms.

 

[jrich4rpaul]

The media may dog us for not getting 2.5mil but that's our fault for thinking we could with 8 days and little advertising.

It's because everyone wants to hold onto their money until the 16th. We won't make 12 mil and we won't even break Rudy's 3rd Q total.

 

[Rhys]

Rudy Giuliani finished with $10,258,019.

We'll get there by 8pm est.

again, it's no big deal. We're in a slump because we're getting slimed with no good press lately.

Before, there at least was no press.

I say we need to make compare and contrast videos about Huck and Paul to regain some momentum, but that's beside the point.

Besides, the goal was higher than possible, which isn't to say it shouldn't have been the goal. Nov. 5 was $10mil and we didn't even get half.

Just... set no goal for Tea Party! lol

 

[sroll2237]

We'll break rudy's total.

 

[RickNHouston]

And this one too: http://www.arkansasleader.com/2007/11/editorialshuck-flip-flops.html

just one more "huckchuck fact" for us all to appreciate. Gawd, are those commercials korny, or what? i think old man chuckles needs to lay of of the tooth whitener for a couple months ... those things get much whiter their viewers are gonna have to start wearing sunglasses to watch em.... Ya'll go on wit your bad selves Huckleberry and Chuckie !!! ROFLMAO

 

[RickNHouston]

Most of the Huck votes will be taken away from Romney and/or Giuliani. It lowers the bar for Paul to win. Huckabee and Paul have virtually nothing in common and that possibly includes integrity. Regarding integrity, congressman Paul has a home said to be middle class. Being a doctor and a congress member, surely he could have lavished himself with luxury. He didn't though. Huckabee, despite having been a pastor, lavishes himself with millions in luxury, and thereby destroys all my trust in him:

"... $1.4 million renovation of the Governor's [Huckabee's] Mansion, the first major refurbishing since its completion in 1950. And Mrs. Huckabee is attempting to raise still more money from private sources -- as much as $4 million -- to significantly expand the stately Georgian brick residence."
http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=14103

How could Huckabee claim to be a Christian and spend $4 million+ of his family fortune on renovations to enlarge his mansion? There are some Christians who would practically live in a sewer for others who are less fortunate. Huckabee gets defensive about his 2,100 ft2 temporary residence being called a trailer. For a pastor to live in anything large and lavish is an insult to the Christian religion. I don't hold it against him for believing creationism. That would be ridiculous if I held that against him. What I do hold against him is his outrageously lavish lifestyle that I expect a Christian to frown upon, and especially a pastor who is supposed to be a good example.

Dr. Paul lives in lake Jackson, Tx a small town of 27,000, 90 miles south of Houston and less than 5 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. He lives in the same middle class home that he a nd his wife raised their kids in. The most frugal and unpretentious man I know.

 

[RobertJ]

I find Hucks "surge" to be spurious. The man is a liberal neocon and everyone knows it. I think the "big media" is the only ones doing any surging. Just like the same people suppress Ron Pauls real support, they over-inflate Hucks. Why I dont know.

 

[RickNHouston]

Most of the Huck votes will be taken away from Romney and/or Giuliani. It lowers the bar for Paul to win. Huckabee and Paul have virtually nothing in common and that possibly includes integrity. Regarding integrity, congressman Paul has a home said to be middle class. Being a doctor and a congress member, surely he could have lavished himself with luxury. He didn't though. Huckabee, despite having been a pastor, lavishes himself with millions in luxury, and thereby destroys all my trust in him:

"... $1.4 million renovation of the Governor's [Huckabee's] Mansion, the first major refurbishing since its completion in 1950. And Mrs. Huckabee is attempting to raise still more money from private sources -- as much as $4 million -- to significantly expand the stately Georgian brick residence."
http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=14103

How could Huckabee claim to be a Christian and spend $4 million+ of his family fortune on renovations to enlarge his mansion? There are some Christians who would practically live in a sewer for others who are less fortunate. Huckabee gets defensive about his 2,100 ft2 temporary residence being called a trailer. For a pastor to live in anything large and lavish is an insult to the Christian religion. I don't hold it against him for believing creationism. That would be ridiculous if I held that against him. What I do hold against him is his outrageously lavish lifestyle that I expect a Christian to frown upon, and especially a pastor who is supposed to be a good example.

Better question ... how could he be a "true" christian and have a "family fortune" of 4 million+ ?

 

[steph3n]

Better question ... how could he be a "true" christian and have a "family fortune" of 4 million+ ?

so far as I can tell that is renovations of the state owned mansion

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

What surge? Oh yeah...the surge that has been manufactured by the press because Guiliani, McCain, and Thompson are utter flops that even the press can't propagandize the real people into voting for them. Huckabee is just the neo-cons last pathetic attempt at putting forth a viable candidate OTHER than Ron Paul.

The Huckabee surge is merely smoke and mirrors. Just like Ron Paul's "fringe" "longshot" "never in our lifetime" candidacy is smoke and mirrors. Problem is a Ron Paul Presidency is as much a threat to the Repub crime families as it is to the Dem crime families.

Huckabee is experiencing a little bit of a surge but its only because he is propped up by the media. All of the mainstream candidates got boosts from the MSM but when people found out about them they crashed and burned. Huckabee was exposed last night at the debate on immigration and taxes and plenty of other dirt in his closet.

 

[werdd]

im gonna laugh my ass off when they cant meet their goal lol.

 

[abbgt1]

Unfair

Unfair criticism about Huckabee and his wealth. I have no idea how generous of a person he is, but I suspect he may be very. That's a personal attack against him that is a reach to say it is unchristian because he has built wealth. It also smacks of class warfair.

Now, there are plenty of other reasons to criticize him. Minus a few social issues, why is he even running as a Republican? There are few problems he hasn't seen a Government solution for. In fact, you can say that for virtually everyone running for the Republican nomination will expand the Federal Gov't except Ron Paul.

Huckabee seems like a good guy, but we've had way to many years of big government and he'll just continue the growth.

 

[Eric23]

im gonna laugh my ass off when they cant meet their goal lol.

I think they can do it. They've raised quite a bit of money these past 3 days.

 

[JWallace]

We play our game, not their's.

 

[Rhys]

Don't laugh if they miss their bar, cause we missed ours too. Besides, Huck people aren't bad. They're like us, only with more GI Joes.

 

[mosquitobite]

Ok I'm not saying that if Judy jumps off the building then I'm going to jump off a building too. I agree, I would rather take the "moral high ground" on the mud slinging and political bashing. One of the reasons I've never gotten involved in politics is because I find all the senseless character assassination that goes on portrays a lack of confidence in one's self or in one's ideals. Further, I'm willing to bet most Americans find it distasteful as well.

However, have you ever scanned some of the real forums of other candidates' independent "grassroots" supporters?

Been to GOPUSA lately? I was banned from there for pointing out an obvious misrepresentation of fact using the exact same link the author provided. If I recall, I didn't even state that I was a Ron Paul supporter. I simply pointed out that something the author stated in his article was "at best an honest misrepresentation or at worst an outright lie".

I guess what I'm saying is I can understand how it is frustrating and the need to want to lash out against people who resort to name calling and flame wars. I guess their "judgments" of our positions and the perceived unpleasantness of a small number of Ron Paul supporters only applies to us and not to themselves. In other words, its ok for them to be name callers, but should a Ron Paul supporter do the same they think it just proves what they say about us is accurate.

I'd like to remove that assumption. I want a mud-proof, flame resistant movement to prove once and for all that we aren't mean spirited kooks and anti-government wingnuts.

So, is it hypocrisy on the part of detractors? Yeah, it is. But the important thing to remember about these people is that they aren't willing to abide by others having a different view than themselves. Keep in mind, many Americans WANT big government to protect them from having to be responsible for themselves. They WANT to be told what is right, what is wrong and they WANT government to be the vehicle to provide them with this.

We have generations of de-programming to contend with, let's not sink to their level!

Don' be lured by the temptation to lash out for being called names. Give our opponents enough rope to hang themselves ok?

*thumbs up*

I would rather Paul supporters not post opinions on places like GOPUSA, Redstate, or FreeRepublic. Tis better to post the facts/news, etc and then laugh at how clueless or hateful they are towards Dr Paul. They're intimidated. They love their war and don't like a threat to the status quo. That's basically a conservative stance We're a rEVOLution baby!

 

[JWallace]

Don't laugh if they miss their bar, cause we missed ours too. Besides, Huck people aren't bad. They're like us, only with more GI Joes.

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