Attention International RP Supporters

[Revolution9]

You are probably here due to your curiosity about Ron Paul and to see the American people take that country back for the sake of the world. You may not be able to vote in the elections [I can't as I am Canadian in Atlanta but my sons are and grandchildren will be American. I am doing what I can] but you can still do something to help us take back the reins of the country. The MSM may hold the media puppet strings in ths country but if we get the entire world buzzing about this and the hope to bring the belligerent beast to heel issuing the orders..we can win certainly.

If you have any media outlets that have what you believe would be sympathetic ears then please alert them as to what is occurring. This MSM blackout is big news and the world needs to know about it.

We are doing our best and need all the help from everywhere we can muster up.

Best Regards
'Randy

 

[Mattsa]

You are probably here due to your curiosity about Ron Paul and to see the American people take that country back for the sake of the world. You may not be able to vote in the elections [I can't as I am Canadian in Atlanta but my sons are and grandchildren will be American. I am doing what I can] but you can still do something to help us take back the reins of the country. The MSM may hold the media puppet strings in ths country but if we get the entire world buzzing about this and the hope to bring the belligerent beast to heel issuing the orders..we can win certainly.

If you have any media outlets that have what you believe would be sympathetic ears then please alert them as to what is occurring. This MSM blackout is big news and the world needs to know about it.

We are doing our best and need all the help from everywhere we can muster up.

Best Regards
'Randy

Hi Randy

I have mailed the BBC on more than one occassion about the RP phenonomen, so far to no avail. I've pointed out that aside from the actual policies RP advocates, the social upheaval that will occur in the next year is a fantastic news story in its own right

I also post regularly on www.housepricecrash.co.uk and there are several Ron Paul fans posting on the forum there.

The big differerence between the US and the UK right now is that this kind of big government control freakery we are seeing in America is a relatively new thing. In the UK however, the people are much more used to the government telling them how to behave, how to live, how to think etc. The UK isn't ready for a Ron Paul type character. Only a small number of people would find his libertarian principles attractive. This is largely due to the fact that the UK has never been a constitutional republic. People here don't understand the concept of self responsibility and self determination in the same way as Americans. We have huge numbers of people here paid by the taxpayer to stay at home everyday and watch the diet of drivel on daytime TV. We have millions.....yes...millions of Eastern Europeans coming into our country to do the jobs we are too lazy to do ourselves. They are hard working, well educated, polite and big help to our economy but we don't seem to understand that we shouldn't be paying our own citizens benefits when they should be doing these jobs themselves.The English certainly don't understand the concepts of sound money either! The average punter in the UK has absolutely no idea what money is, where it comes from, who creates it, or whether it is commodity backed.

 

[Mattsa]

You are probably here due to your curiosity about Ron Paul and to see the American people take that country back for the sake of the world. You may not be able to vote in the elections [I can't as I am Canadian in Atlanta but my sons are and grandchildren will be American. I am doing what I can] but you can still do something to help us take back the reins of the country. The MSM may hold the media puppet strings in ths country but if we get the entire world buzzing about this and the hope to bring the belligerent beast to heel issuing the orders..we can win certainly.

If you have any media outlets that have what you believe would be sympathetic ears then please alert them as to what is occurring. This MSM blackout is big news and the world needs to know about it.

We are doing our best and need all the help from everywhere we can muster up.

Best Regards
'Randy

There is one good way you could raise the awareness of the British

See if you can get any English bands to appear at the BandsforRonPaul event in July. Getting the attention of young people is really important

 

[qednick]

Mattsa, the Daily Telegraph are likely to cover RP in some shape or form. They tend to be less into the whole censorship thingy than the other papers. It's just unfortunate that they don't have the biggest circulation.

It's also very sad that "The Sun" tabloid tends to be what most Brits consider a "real newspaper". To give my American colleagues an idea of what I'm talking about: "The Sun" tabloid is like the National Inqurier on steriods.

 

[angelatc]

The thing we need from Europe and Canda, IMHO, is pressure to stop nation-building. Let the Muslims be Muslims, and run a Muslim country.

 

[angelatc]

Mattsa, the Daily Telegraph are likely to cover RP in some shape or form. They tend to be less into the whole censorship thingy than the other papers. It's just unfortunate that they don't have the biggest circulation.

It's also very sad that "The Sun" tabloid tends to be what most Brits consider a "real newspaper". To give my American colleagues an idea of what I'm talking about: "The Sun" tabloid is like the National Inqurier on steriods.

Yes, we have "The New York Post" on this side of the pond.

 

[Delivered4000]

There is a huge international following, that is of the people who know or have heard of Ron Paul, but I don't know how we could use that to our advantage.

 

[qednick]

Yes, we have "The New York Post" on this side of the pond.

Oh, I always thought the New York Post was novelty toilet paper.

 

[torchbearer]

Maybe other nations should start questioning the legitamacy of our elected officials. We are becoming like the soviet union. sure we get to go to the ballot box, but we can only vote for certain people... the people the MSM crown as "top tier" while degrading the unanointed as fringe or "second tier".
group think takes over and then you get george bush elected. deja vu?

 

[graystar]

I am an Aussie living in London, and from what I see Ron Paul's ideas would be so foreign to the general populace here that they would mix as well as oil and water. The reason being that there is now no small government party in the UK at all. All of them are now socialist to some extent, and bringing up ideas about removing the NHS gets people very angry.

The same way neocons hold on the idea of nation building, people in Europe still believe the government can help you have better health care, and save the poor.

 

[qednick]

I am an Aussie living in London, and from what I see Ron Paul's ideas would be so foreign to the general populace here that they would mix as well as oil and water. The reason being that there is now no small government party in the UK at all. All of them are now socialist to some extent, and bringing up ideas about removing the NHS gets people very angry.

The same way neocons hold on the idea of nation building, people in Europe still believe the government can help you have better health care, and save the poor.

Absolutely true! The UK has become absolutely and thoroughly socialist just like the rest of Europe. The USA will be next if we're not careful.

 

[graystar]

Absolutely true! The UK has become absolutely and thoroughly socialist just like the rest of Europe. The USA will be next if we're not careful.

To give you an example the "right" party - Conservatives or Tory Party, have taken the discussion removing the NHS off the table now. They basically have adopted it as one of their positions

I hope the US wakes up for RP, as the waves will hopefully break across the Atlantic and Pacific to Europe and Australia.

 

[maxwell]

I´m a British guy living in Spain and as far as I know he has quite a large following in the UK. Over here it´s a little too early for the Spanish media to start talking about him at a mass level but some mainstream newspaper websites have acknowledged how popular he is online with his ever increasing numbers on YouTube, myspace etc. Many Spanish political blogs are also talking about him and how important he would be both for the USA and also internationally. The funny thing is most people view him in the exact same light as some Americans do.

It is no secret that most if not all Europeans absolutely hate Bush and his foreign policy has caused animosity and even hatred towards the US. If a Bush clone is elected President I hate to think what will happen in the long term. The next British Prime Minister will not be allowed to serve such an alliegance as Tony Blair did to the US as Blair has not been forgiven for the war on Iraq. There is also tension between the current Spanish Government and the US as Condolezza´s trip to Spain recently showed.

There is much I could say about terrorism as both the UK and Spain have suffered from it. Also, here we have a National ID card which we need to carry at all times and is used whenever you buy with a credit card or if you are stopped by the police. In anyone wants to know more I´ll be glad to disuss these issues.

All I can say is that I sincerely hope Americans choose wisely their next President.

 

[Mattsa]

Mattsa, the Daily Telegraph are likely to cover RP in some shape or form. They tend to be less into the whole censorship thingy than the other papers. It's just unfortunate that they don't have the biggest circulation.

It's also very sad that "The Sun" tabloid tends to be what most Brits consider a "real newspaper". To give my American colleagues an idea of what I'm talking about: "The Sun" tabloid is like the National Inqurier on steriods.

The Telegraph is the best of a rotton bunch Nick, but there are a few journalists now writing some good stuff about Briar and Browns' 'Miracle economy' Edmund Conway and Jeff Randall clearly can see right through the spin and both have contributed excellent articles to the Telegraph. Another journo to look out for is Larry Elliot who writes for....wait for it......the Guardian, traditionally a very left wing paper. Larry Elliot has just published a book called Fantasy Island which paints the UK as a nation that has saddled the next generation with unprecedented levels of debt. We are a class obsessed nation borrowing money to buy stuff we can't possible ever pay for....apparently! Sounds familiar huh!

I was out in London with a friend last night who is trying very hard to promote his rock band. Apparently, he has found an individual who wants to finance a music video for him. This guy is £40,000 in debt and says he'll put up the money to promote my friends band because he is gonna go bankrupt anyway. That's how much people value someone elses money here. This kinda attitude is all too common over here now.

The UK is in serious trouble now. The future for the youngsters is pretty grim. The tax burden alone of Gordon Brown's 'Private Finannce Initiative', NuLab's plan to build our schools and hospitals, will bankrupt our future generation.

You know the drill Nick! Most people are too preoccupied reading about Paris Hilton, the Beckhams, the Royal family and the new series of Big Brother to give a fig about what is going on.

My plan is to get my house on the market real quick and move to Oregon with my girlfriend. Maybe I'll get a chance to participate in the Ron Paul roadshw too!

Too bad for the Brits......they should have kept their eyes on the ball alright, not the soccer variety

 

[qednick]

I´m a British guy living in Spain and as far as I know he has quite a large following in the UK. Over here it´s a little too early for the Spanish media to start talking about him at a mass level but some mainstream newspaper websites have acknowledged how popular he is online with his ever increasing numbers on YouTube, myspace etc. Many Spanish political blogs are also talking about him and how important he would be both for the USA and also internationally. The funny thing is most people view him in the exact same light as some Americans do.

It is no secret that most if not all Europeans absolutely hate Bush and his foreign policy has caused animosity and even hatred towards the US. If a Bush clone is elected President I hate to think what will happen in the long term. The next British Prime Minister will not be allowed to serve such an alliegance as Tony Blair did to the US as Blair has not been forgiven for the war on Iraq. There is also tension between the current Spanish Government and the US as Condolezza´s trip to Spain recently showed.

There is much I could say about terrorism as both the UK and Spain have suffered from it. Also, here we have a National ID card which we need to carry at all times and is used whenever you buy with a credit card or if you are stopped by the police. In anyone wants to know more I´ll be glad to disuss these issues.

All I can say is that I sincerely hope Americans choose wisely their next President.

Welcome to the forums Maxwell. I moved to the US in 2000. My mother and stepfather are looking to move to Spain in October. My father and stepmother have also considered moving away from the UK - possibly to France. I have a friend and his wife moving to Canada in a couple of months. I have other friends who really really wish they could move if they were in a position to do so.

It's such a shame that a country can go down the pan to such an extent in such a short period of time once it embraces the big government idealogy like the UK did.

 

[qednick]

The Telegraph is the best of a rotton bunch Nick, but there are a few journalists now writing some good stuff about Briar and Browns' 'Miracle economy' Edmund Conway and Jeff Randall clearly can see right through the spin and both have contributed excellent articles to the Telegraph. Another journo to look out for is Larry Elliot who writes for....wait for it......the Guardian, traditionally a very left wing paper. Larry Elliot has just published a book called Fantasy Island which paints the UK as a nation that has saddled the next generation with unprecedented levels of debt. We are a class obsessed nation borrowing money to buy stuff we can't possible ever pay for....apparently! Sounds familiar huh!

I was out in London with a friend last night who is trying very hard to promote his rock band. Apparently, he has found an individual who wants to finance a music video for him. This guy is £40,000 in debt and says he'll put up the money to promote my friends band because he is gonna go bankrupt anyway. That's how much people value someone elses money here. This kinda attitude is all too common over here now.

The UK is in serious trouble now. The future for the youngsters is pretty grim. The tax burden alone of Gordon Brown's 'Private Finannce Initiative', NuLab's plan to build our schools and hospitals, will bankrupt our future generation.

You know the drill Nick! Most people are too preoccupied reading about Paris Hilton, the Beckhams, the Royal family and the new series of Big Brother to give a fig about what is going on.

My plan is to get my house on the market real quick and move to Oregon with my girlfriend. Maybe I'll get a chance to participate in the Ron Paul roadshw too!

Too bad for the Brits......they should have kept their eyes on the ball alright, not the soccer variety

I'm with ya! I turned on the news this morning here only to immediately see a photo of a very tearful Paris Hilton in the back of a panda car being taken back to the slammer. It's amazing how some celebrity bullshit like that can get so many people riled up so much that the authorities worry about an armed uprising... yet people couldn't care less when it comes to the Patriot Act or Real ID Acts.

 

[Revolution9]

I´m a British guy living in Spain and as far as I know he has quite a large following in the UK. Over here it´s a little too early for the Spanish media to start talking about him at a mass level but some mainstream newspaper websites have acknowledged how popular he is online with his ever increasing numbers on YouTube, myspace etc. Many Spanish political blogs are also talking about him and how important he would be both for the USA and also internationally. The funny thing is most people view him in the exact same light as some Americans do.
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All I can say is that I sincerely hope Americans choose wisely their next President.

Yes indeed Maxwell. Thanks for the info on the European blogs handling his campaign news in a positive light.. If we could get internationally penned pieces as part of the campaign and individual video and blog or news article materials to show the rest of the world is truly concerned about the American People and would view a Ron Paul Presidency as returning some moral ascendancy and diplomatic trust to Nations of Thw World. If you come across any please post them here and we will disseminate rapidly.

Thanks for your input.

Best Regards
Randy

 

[Mattsa]

I am an Aussie living in London, and from what I see Ron Paul's ideas would be so foreign to the general populace here that they would mix as well as oil and water. The reason being that there is now no small government party in the UK at all. All of them are now socialist to some extent, and bringing up ideas about removing the NHS gets people very angry.

The same way neocons hold on the idea of nation building, people in Europe still believe the government can help you have better health care, and save the poor.

I'm afraid your right!

The NHS is where the buck stops for the British. People cannot understand that government interference in the HNS is what makes it sooooooo inefficient and costly. The attitude of the people is that this is a price worth paying to keep it out of private hands. The problem is, we simply can't afford it, especially when we finance it with PFI. The deals struck between the government and the private companies who will build our future schools and hospitals were very poorly done. It is reckoned, some of the deals will cost 7 times the capital costs in interest payments. How would we feel if we paid 7 times the capital we borrowed to buy a house in interest repayments????? There'd be a civil war!!! But that's what these NuLab idiots have done!

 

[maxwell]

Thanks qednick.

Yeah, it´s hard to find a safe & sane place to live in these days. I used to dream of living in the US as it´s still a beautiful and interesting country but nowadays I would definetely not move over there. I also love Britain but as you say, it´s also going down the drain in many aspects. When I hear about "police state" the good ol´blighty comes to mind. I still get chills when I remember the 2000 new year celebrations in London. Most of the people in the centre of the city that night had no way of getting home as all public transport had been semi-closed down because of the stupid millenium bug. Me and my girlfriend were trying to get on the tube, but the only open station we found had a cue circulating the block. Around it policemen on horses with batons were patrolling around and their behaviour was Orwellian to say the least. I won´t go into the actual state of politics there because it´s in shambles.

Spain is still lagging behind because of the dictatorship it once endured, so it´s still a relatively safe and healthy country to live in... and the weather is not bad either! At least they removed their troops from Iraq and have a sane foreign policy.

I´m sincerely worried about the US though and how things will pan out in the next few years or if they continue the nation buliding and pre-emptive strike policies.

 

[Mattsa]

Thanks qednick.

Yeah, it´s hard to find a safe & sane place to live in these days. I used to dream of living in the US as it´s still a beautiful and interesting country but nowadays I would definetely not move over there. I also love Britain but as you say, it´s also going down the drain in many aspects. When I hear about "police state" the good ol´blighty comes to mind. I still get chills when I remember the 2000 new year celebrations in London. Most of the people in the centre of the city that night had no way of getting home as all public transport had been semi-closed down because of the stupid millenium bug. Me and my girlfriend were trying to get on the tube, but the only open station we found had a cue circulating the block. Around it policemen on horses with batons were patrolling around and their behaviour was Orwellian to say the least. I won´t go into the actual state of politics there because it´s in shambles.

Spain is still lagging behind because of the dictatorship it once endured, so it´s still a relatively safe and healthy country to live in... and the weather is not bad either! At least they removed their troops from Iraq and have a sane foreign policy.

I´m sincerely worried about the US though and how things will pan out in the next few years or if they continue the nation buliding and pre-emptive strike policies.

I've always had a soft spot for Spain. I visited Spain alot in the early 90's, before they sold themselves to satan....THE EURO

It was fantastic, and still is in many ways. I'd still consider living there, up in the Pyrenees!