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Attention!!! Deadline for NH/IA Ron Paul TV Ad Script is MONDAY (Aug 20) Morning!!!
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Would you chill already? Your motivations are well-founded and appreciated, however this has already been discussed extensively. We already have one PAC in place (Americans United for Liberty PAC) that is registered with the FEC and paperwork is being submitted for a second one. We have a certain number of days (a "grace period," if you will) before we are required to submit any paperwork for a second PAC if it turns out we need one. Please direct all your concerns to me in PM, as I am coordinating with Dj, Xar, and others to make this effort run as smoothly as possible.
Again, we also understand the marketing issues -- this is being produced professionally -- and the end product will be universally appealing and sound.
Now, as I was saying before my text got kicked off the page by more of Jennifer's concerns,
I've read ya'lls scripts, and I think they are very thoughtful, creative, and inspirational. I believe everyone that we're gonna get to submit a script idea has had the chance to do so. Our goal is to get started on production, because production could take upwards of a month or more. Therefore, I am asking that any last minute script submissions be posted today, and we can start the voting this afternoon into tomorrow, and hopefully have a clear winner come Tuesday morning so Los Angeles can do their thing.
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calm down jennifer... really though, it's unbecoming of you.
1) what myth?
that revolution has anything to do with anarchy. in fact, it is quite the opposite, particularly when talking about politics
2) i'm fully aware of what the issue is. do not patronize me.
3) are you kidding me? do you really believe....
that's not what i said... say what you want, but don't put words in my mouth. and besides, ron paul is not every president since the advent of television.
4) i'm fully aware of what you meant by "revolution," perhaps it would benefit you to look up anarchy. again, political revolutions overthrow one government and replace it with another. governments will inevitably fail and do not need violence to ensure that end, violence is how governments take everyone down with them. anarchy is the state that will inevitably follow (though it may be brief before the next bully comes along) in which 'the governed' govern themselves... which they are quite capable of doing.
i said i would consider it a personal favor if you would make an effort to consider this before posting... as a practical, personal favor.
and you spout back with:
"I would consider a personal favor if you would stop trying to tell me what to say."
really though, that sounds like something my sister would have said when she was 14 or something.... really, i was trying to be nice.
i'll repeat as you have done so eloquently:
Words have meaning (I have a bachelors in english lit, and believe me if there is one thing i know it is that words have meaning... thanks... don't patronize me.)
now let's go back to being friends, constructive criticism, all that jazz. and with your permission, i'll post another couple ideas I had... though you might not want to read or encourage them... so feel free to ignore, then discourage... i won't tell you how to live your life or anything, don't want to tell you what to do.
besides, i'm married as it is and really don't need the dramatics.
1) what myth?
that revolution has anything to do with anarchy. in fact, it is quite the opposite, particularly when talking about politics
2) i'm fully aware of what the issue is. do not patronize me.
3) are you kidding me? do you really believe....
that's not what i said... say what you want, but don't put words in my mouth. and besides, ron paul is not every president since the advent of television.
4) i'm fully aware of what you meant by "revolution," perhaps it would benefit you to look up anarchy. again, political revolutions overthrow one government and replace it with another. governments will inevitably fail and do not need violence to ensure that end, violence is how governments take everyone down with them. anarchy is the state that will inevitably follow (though it may be brief before the next bully comes along) in which 'the governed' govern themselves... which they are quite capable of doing.
i said i would consider it a personal favor if you would make an effort to consider this before posting... as a practical, personal favor.
and you spout back with:
"I would consider a personal favor if you would stop trying to tell me what to say."
really though, that sounds like something my sister would have said when she was 14 or something.... really, i was trying to be nice.
i'll repeat as you have done so eloquently:
Words have meaning (I have a bachelors in english lit, and believe me if there is one thing i know it is that words have meaning... thanks... don't patronize me.)
now let's go back to being friends, constructive criticism, all that jazz. and with your permission, i'll post another couple ideas I had... though you might not want to read or encourage them... so feel free to ignore, then discourage... i won't tell you how to live your life or anything, don't want to tell you what to do.
besides, i'm married as it is and really don't need the dramatics.
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Huh?
I gotta be honest, focus groups do not apply to Ron Paul, the truth can be seen and heard without pandering or focusing. I am sure we can do far better than an ad agency. I do agree to be careful though in presenting the message of freedom with responsibility and less Federal intervention.
I gotta be honest, focus groups do not apply to Ron Paul, the truth can be seen and heard without pandering or focusing. I am sure we can do far better than an ad agency. I do agree to be careful though in presenting the message of freedom with responsibility and less Federal intervention.
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demographics
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forums, but I just wanted to throw something out there.
We already know that RP appeals to young males age 18 - 35. I think this demographic is easier to bring in. I think what we need to try and focus on are the middle aged men and women, as well as the older generations. They are the demographic who are most likely to get their bulk of information from television and main stream media. I think a commercial showing RPs values as well as his issues is important. The commercial could include how he has delivered over 4000 babies, and has been married for 50 years. Then it could bring in his stance on Iraq and on taxes. This would definitely appeal to the demographic I just suggested, as well as a good portion of the conservative base.
I don't have a script in mind, but I will try and work on something today.
As for the youtube video mentioned in the last post, I think it would be a great commercial to run on cartoon network. The only drawback I see on cartoon network is that the people watching this network are already readily on the internet. I think MTV might be a good network to bring in the people who don't normally vote or have anything to do with politics. It's a great vid, and I think it would be effective and may draw mass media attention. I'm just throwing out some ideas.
I'm glad I came across this site. Let's keep the revolution going!!
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forums, but I just wanted to throw something out there.
We already know that RP appeals to young males age 18 - 35. I think this demographic is easier to bring in. I think what we need to try and focus on are the middle aged men and women, as well as the older generations. They are the demographic who are most likely to get their bulk of information from television and main stream media. I think a commercial showing RPs values as well as his issues is important. The commercial could include how he has delivered over 4000 babies, and has been married for 50 years. Then it could bring in his stance on Iraq and on taxes. This would definitely appeal to the demographic I just suggested, as well as a good portion of the conservative base.
I don't have a script in mind, but I will try and work on something today.
As for the youtube video mentioned in the last post, I think it would be a great commercial to run on cartoon network. The only drawback I see on cartoon network is that the people watching this network are already readily on the internet. I think MTV might be a good network to bring in the people who don't normally vote or have anything to do with politics. It's a great vid, and I think it would be effective and may draw mass media attention. I'm just throwing out some ideas.
I'm glad I came across this site. Let's keep the revolution going!!
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Jennifer, I understand your concerns completely, but my people are all professionals. They understand underlying themes and think critically towards what this advertisement will say in all underlying aspects. I mean, honestly, no need for you to call us idiots. My people *know* what their doing. After we get the script, we're going to hand it to the script writer so they can expand on it. Then, we're going to get it back, and I'll along with the other key people will see it to make sure it's good to go. Then we get to work to make a good, professional commercial.
Honestly, if we have to depend on the official campaign to make a 30 second commercial, I think we have more things to worry about.
Honestly, if we have to depend on the official campaign to make a 30 second commercial, I think we have more things to worry about.
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I do want to point out that although the work is being done pro-bono, any outsourcing for extra work will incur fees. With this is mind, Short, simple, to the point. Get people to check out the official website. Perhaps obtaining corporate sponsorship from google, youtube, meetup, facebook, etc would mitigate the cost of production and allow the commercial to be aired more.
Just my two copperless abe's worth...
Just my two copperless abe's worth...
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This is my submission as food for thought. It is based on the fact Bush had an 80% approval rating after 9/11. People wanted to kick some ass. It shows that we need a leader to make the right choices when they are not popular. Eighty percent of the population can look at this and realize they needed a leader that was making better decisions than they themselves and not the wrong ones like the other presidential candidates.
Why do we elect a President and Congress? We elect a President and Congress to represent us and make decisions that effect every American. During times of crisis is when we depend on them most to make the right decisions. After 9/11 this was such a time. Our country needed to act. It was a time of much hysteria. Our leaders were in a position where they had to make a decision that would effect each and every one of us and also most of the world. The decisions were made and in hindsight they were wrong. Our country and the world are in a worse place than before. One congressman told us the decisions were wrong at the time they were made. He did not wait to see if those decisions were working before denouncing them. We need a leader that can make the right decisions in the times of crisis. Decisions that will effect the world. Ron Paul is the Congressman that was making the right ones.
Vote Ron Paul '08.
Why do we elect a President and Congress? We elect a President and Congress to represent us and make decisions that effect every American. During times of crisis is when we depend on them most to make the right decisions. After 9/11 this was such a time. Our country needed to act. It was a time of much hysteria. Our leaders were in a position where they had to make a decision that would effect each and every one of us and also most of the world. The decisions were made and in hindsight they were wrong. Our country and the world are in a worse place than before. One congressman told us the decisions were wrong at the time they were made. He did not wait to see if those decisions were working before denouncing them. We need a leader that can make the right decisions in the times of crisis. Decisions that will effect the world. Ron Paul is the Congressman that was making the right ones.
Vote Ron Paul '08.
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in defense of Jennifer
she's right - we have to be VERY careful with what we do with this. First Impressions are the MOST important impressions, and can make or break how receptive people are to Dr. Paul's message down the road.
We should stay away from controversial or overly-intellectual things for a first impression. Revolution might be a fine word for the 30 and under crowd - but we're aiming above that as our target demographic and to the older crowd it might remind them of liberal or anarchistic nutjobs. I'd say leave it out for now, along with "wants to eliminate the income tax" and ANYTHING that implies he might do away with medicare or medicaid. We need to stick generic - but still lay out his positions.
And again... just remember... we're not making an ad directed towards what WE like and what WE want to hear - we're trying to speak to as broad an audience as possible, and get them interested in Dr. Paul. We have to speak to what might interest THEM. This shouldn't be a history lesson, or a lecture on the constitution, or a PR video for the meetup groups. This isn't about how we love Dr. Paul, how we want to overthrow the government, or how he's right and everyone else is wrong. This is about why he's worth looking into. Thats all.
anyways, JMO. i'm looking forward to voting on this.
she's right - we have to be VERY careful with what we do with this. First Impressions are the MOST important impressions, and can make or break how receptive people are to Dr. Paul's message down the road.
We should stay away from controversial or overly-intellectual things for a first impression. Revolution might be a fine word for the 30 and under crowd - but we're aiming above that as our target demographic and to the older crowd it might remind them of liberal or anarchistic nutjobs. I'd say leave it out for now, along with "wants to eliminate the income tax" and ANYTHING that implies he might do away with medicare or medicaid. We need to stick generic - but still lay out his positions.
And again... just remember... we're not making an ad directed towards what WE like and what WE want to hear - we're trying to speak to as broad an audience as possible, and get them interested in Dr. Paul. We have to speak to what might interest THEM. This shouldn't be a history lesson, or a lecture on the constitution, or a PR video for the meetup groups. This isn't about how we love Dr. Paul, how we want to overthrow the government, or how he's right and everyone else is wrong. This is about why he's worth looking into. Thats all.
anyways, JMO. i'm looking forward to voting on this.
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this would be a series commercial and you would change it for different markets.
the idea is to have different cardboard cutouts of different figures in society. have them in appropriate places.
for instance: aiming for college kids.
a cop cutout standing next to a dukes of hazzard type cop car on a back road somewhere. his arm goes up and down swinging a club into his free hand. every 5 or ten seconds some little catch phrase comes out of his speaker, "don't vote for ron paul," "hands behind your back," "i've gotta match, my club and your face" etc.
anyway... just think of generic people in society who would or wouldn't vote for ron paul and do the same 5 second repeat thing... change the props, change the cutout..
you could have a malfunctioning mitt-witt cut-out all "worth millions," "vote for me," "protect our country, join my campaign." that sort of thing.
you could do a ron paul cutout in front of constitution hall.
also, another series of commercials would be about seperate individuals going through their personal trials of the day... kinda glum... but the day ends, and the camera comes back to them at home... they shut down their computer, close the laptop and you see their ron paul shirt, then they smile, stand up and walk out the door. do about four or five different ones like that and then one commercial that follows each person as they walk up the road and converge on a ron paul event.
the idea is to have different cardboard cutouts of different figures in society. have them in appropriate places.
for instance: aiming for college kids.
a cop cutout standing next to a dukes of hazzard type cop car on a back road somewhere. his arm goes up and down swinging a club into his free hand. every 5 or ten seconds some little catch phrase comes out of his speaker, "don't vote for ron paul," "hands behind your back," "i've gotta match, my club and your face" etc.
anyway... just think of generic people in society who would or wouldn't vote for ron paul and do the same 5 second repeat thing... change the props, change the cutout..
you could have a malfunctioning mitt-witt cut-out all "worth millions," "vote for me," "protect our country, join my campaign." that sort of thing.
you could do a ron paul cutout in front of constitution hall.
also, another series of commercials would be about seperate individuals going through their personal trials of the day... kinda glum... but the day ends, and the camera comes back to them at home... they shut down their computer, close the laptop and you see their ron paul shirt, then they smile, stand up and walk out the door. do about four or five different ones like that and then one commercial that follows each person as they walk up the road and converge on a ron paul event.
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here's another
old lady #1 in workout clothes walks up a sidewalk to the door ::in a type of townhouse complex, i have a particular one in mind.. will describe in more detail if necessary:: rings doorbell.
old lady #2 (workout clothes) opens the door.
ol1: are you ready?
ol2: of course.
ol1: do you have the... trails off
ol2: yea uh... right here ::she does that shifty eye thing and reaches
behind the door:: just take this
hands ol1 two signs rolled together to obscure their contents. the two old ladies, carry the flags off lke a body and run away looking sneaky to ol1's van parked up the road. they get in and floor it.
camera fades out
camera comes back in as ol1 slams the van in park off the side of a busy access road. the two old ladies get out A-team style and grab the signs... unfurling them, they look proudly (guiltily) at each other and jog to an overpass. when the two arrive, they see two other people (old men, young people, whoever... dressed ninja style or something) who've arrived with their Ron Paul banner and loudspeaker.
the two parties make eye contact and both see each other's Ron Paul banners... smile and wave as the two old ladies begin jogging back and forth waiving their banners, and the others setup their station in the middle of the overpass to blast their message. below
gridlocked traffic.
as the camera moves away from the overpass and glides over the stalled traffic an announcer could say anything relevant to the campaign and local events taking place.
::edit:: better yet, have it be their husbands all dressed in fishing gear.
old lady #1 in workout clothes walks up a sidewalk to the door ::in a type of townhouse complex, i have a particular one in mind.. will describe in more detail if necessary:: rings doorbell.
old lady #2 (workout clothes) opens the door.
ol1: are you ready?
ol2: of course.
ol1: do you have the... trails off
ol2: yea uh... right here ::she does that shifty eye thing and reaches
behind the door:: just take this
hands ol1 two signs rolled together to obscure their contents. the two old ladies, carry the flags off lke a body and run away looking sneaky to ol1's van parked up the road. they get in and floor it.
camera fades out
camera comes back in as ol1 slams the van in park off the side of a busy access road. the two old ladies get out A-team style and grab the signs... unfurling them, they look proudly (guiltily) at each other and jog to an overpass. when the two arrive, they see two other people (old men, young people, whoever... dressed ninja style or something) who've arrived with their Ron Paul banner and loudspeaker.
the two parties make eye contact and both see each other's Ron Paul banners... smile and wave as the two old ladies begin jogging back and forth waiving their banners, and the others setup their station in the middle of the overpass to blast their message. below
gridlocked traffic.
as the camera moves away from the overpass and glides over the stalled traffic an announcer could say anything relevant to the campaign and local events taking place.
::edit:: better yet, have it be their husbands all dressed in fishing gear.
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A handful of things that I would like to see in this ad.
1. Include that he voted to go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan, but opposed weakening that force and going into Iraq. Many people think that he is against defending the US outside of our borders and MOST do not know that he voted FOR going into Afghanistan. We need to make certain that they know he is not weak, but he is constitutional.
2. This election is not about abortion. The people who are strictly pro-life voters will research this themselves. Like Carvel said in '92, "its the economy, stupid" in this case, its the economy, Iraq and Taxation/over sized government.
3. HEALTH CARE is a big issue in NH. We may want to point out that RP wants to eliminate the income tax which would allow people and companies to spend money on more important things like HEALTH CARE.
4. Lastly we may want to use a message like "America First", Stress that our infrastructure (ie. Bridges, electric grid etc.) Schools, Borders need a president who will concentrate on AMERICA and not every other country. RP says no to foreign aid, wars and military in foreign countries, Billions to the UN. We need a full time president working to repair America and make her strong.
there are so many issues, We may want to look at spending the money now for 3 commercials and link certain issues that have a more natural congruency so that we can use these in several states. I would love for us to push four states. NH, Nevada, Wyoming and S. Carolina. These are affordable markets that we can make a difference in. Overall though, we MUST WIN NH.
PS. Those that think we are idiots and are not professionals just because we work at the grass roots level..... I hold degrees in Business, BA in Political Science, and a Masters in Education. I worked on Jeb Bush's governors campaign. Tampa, Fl. Mayor Pam Iorios Campaign, and in Polk County, Bob English County Commissioner campaign. Ive also done opinion research polling and also wrote image reports to help candidates beef up their look during debates.
I may not be a high priced professional, but I am pretty good at what I do.
1. Include that he voted to go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan, but opposed weakening that force and going into Iraq. Many people think that he is against defending the US outside of our borders and MOST do not know that he voted FOR going into Afghanistan. We need to make certain that they know he is not weak, but he is constitutional.
2. This election is not about abortion. The people who are strictly pro-life voters will research this themselves. Like Carvel said in '92, "its the economy, stupid" in this case, its the economy, Iraq and Taxation/over sized government.
3. HEALTH CARE is a big issue in NH. We may want to point out that RP wants to eliminate the income tax which would allow people and companies to spend money on more important things like HEALTH CARE.
4. Lastly we may want to use a message like "America First", Stress that our infrastructure (ie. Bridges, electric grid etc.) Schools, Borders need a president who will concentrate on AMERICA and not every other country. RP says no to foreign aid, wars and military in foreign countries, Billions to the UN. We need a full time president working to repair America and make her strong.
there are so many issues, We may want to look at spending the money now for 3 commercials and link certain issues that have a more natural congruency so that we can use these in several states. I would love for us to push four states. NH, Nevada, Wyoming and S. Carolina. These are affordable markets that we can make a difference in. Overall though, we MUST WIN NH.
PS. Those that think we are idiots and are not professionals just because we work at the grass roots level..... I hold degrees in Business, BA in Political Science, and a Masters in Education. I worked on Jeb Bush's governors campaign. Tampa, Fl. Mayor Pam Iorios Campaign, and in Polk County, Bob English County Commissioner campaign. Ive also done opinion research polling and also wrote image reports to help candidates beef up their look during debates.
I may not be a high priced professional, but I am pretty good at what I do.
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jennifer...
some people have different feelings on
"what is best in the long run"
if you're not happy with the direction of the thread, read a different one. the success of the campaign is due to the "idiots" (your word, not mine) out there, not the certified pros. just drop the insults altogether. you're beginning to act like a troll.
have you not taken on a pet project?
some people have different feelings on
"what is best in the long run"
if you're not happy with the direction of the thread, read a different one. the success of the campaign is due to the "idiots" (your word, not mine) out there, not the certified pros. just drop the insults altogether. you're beginning to act like a troll.
have you not taken on a pet project?
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