Atlas Shrugged Part 2

[idiom]

It would be better as a full television series. A complete adaptation. Possibly with airlines instead of trains.

It would take a lot of creative license to make it watchable for people who are not already fans. It would take serious writing to keep the themes and ideas in there and let them develop.

Take Rands name off it. It needs the sort of pacing of Breaking Bad, or Mad Men. It can be done, but we live in a world where shows like firefly get cancelled and Jericho gets cancelled twice.

It needs to feel like a regular show that just gets more and more dystopian. It needs to tie into day to day events more.

Think of Newsroom. Create a show that cuts to behind the scenes action of Acta and Sopa and the NDAA in the Whitehouse. Put words in the mouths of TPTB.

 

[losinglife]

watched the first one twice, after watching it a second time i realized the movie was horrendous.

The acting...script... well.... everything, ass! The did a good job on picking some of the roles tho, i will give them that.

 

[Carehn]

I saw Part One. I don't think it was horrible - but it wasn't particularly good, either. That's pretty much what I expected. I doubt Part Two will be any different.

The problem is that, by its nature, Rand's fiction just isn't well-suited to cinematic treatment. Her stories are "concrete" representations of highly abstract & very interwoven concepts. Using cinema (pictures & sounds) to convey those representations - instead of (written) words - just doesn't work very well. The result is flat, cold & lifeless.

This guy did a good job with it.

 

[TomtheTinker]

Ahdio book can be found on YouTube.

 

[Occam's Banana]

This guy did a good job with it.

That's just Galt's speech - which is just an extended piece of exposition. When taken out of it's larger context, it's not hard to add some evocative visuals and come up with something interesting. It quite another thing to cinematically tell the much larger "surrounding" story in which Galt's speech is embedded. For that, the cinematic form just does not work well. Viewers cannot stop and think about what they've just seen & heard before they're swept along to the next scene. And in a story like Atlas Shrugged, there is a *LOT* that needs to be "stopped-and-thought-about." Those sorts of stories just do not make for good movies, no matter how you try to adapt them.

 

[Carehn]

That's just Galt's speech - which is just an extended piece of exposition. When taken out of it's larger context, it's not hard to add some evocative visuals and come up with something interesting. It quite another thing to cinematically tell the much larger "surrounding" story in which Galt's speech is embedded. For that, the cinematic form just does not work well. Viewers cannot stop and think about what they've just seen & heard before they're swept along to the next scene. And in a story like Atlas Shrugged, there is a *LOT* that needs to be "stopped-and-thought-about." Those sorts of stories just do not make for good movies, no matter how you try to adapt them.

Ya your right. I for one would have changed no part of the boook if i was making the movie. I would have made it darker though. and fallowed paragraph by paragraph ever single thing. The trick is finding ways to express thought and emotion because you cant have it narrated.

Well I guess that is the trick.

 

[idiom]

Actually, you could reasonably sensibly transpose it to airlines...

1. Airlines get blamed for global warming when climate scientists decide the exhaust at high altitude is far more damaging
2. Huge Carbon tax gets placed on airlines
3. Air tickets sky rocket
4. People complain
5. Fair travel Act fixed tickets at low prices, mandates airlines maintain routes even when unprofitable.
6. Airlines start dying.
7. Rearden Alloy is used to make a new super clean/efficient aircraft
8. John Galt route is established between LA and New York or something.

It wouldn't take much to update it. A lot of airlines in countries basically went that route and were driven into the ground until they could be nationalised.

 

[king_nothing_]

Wouldn't even feel like the same story if it was anything other than railroads, in my opinion.

 

[juliusaugustus]

It would be better as a full television series. A complete adaptation. Possibly with airlines instead of trains.

It would take a lot of creative license to make it watchable for people who are not already fans. It would take serious writing to keep the themes and ideas in there and let them develop.

Take Rands name off it. It needs the sort of pacing of Breaking Bad, or Mad Men. It can be done, but we live in a world where shows like firefly get cancelled and Jericho gets cancelled twice.

It needs to feel like a regular show that just gets more and more dystopian. It needs to tie into day to day events more.

Think of Newsroom. Create a show that cuts to behind the scenes action of Acta and Sopa and the NDAA in the Whitehouse. Put words in the mouths of TPTB.

Railroads are better example because it was government action that caused the railroads to go out of business and the Airline industry subsidy is part of the reason why railroads went out of business.

 

[WilliamShrugged]

Saw the movie yesterday. Overall good. I liked the guy that played Hank Rearden in the first one more. Same with dagney. This one though did better imo at going into Rands philosophy. If this one would have had some of the same actors it would be a lot better. That and i feel if they would have had dagney say "oh who is John Galt?" just before the crash and blackscreen, rather than about a minute before she crashes while still up in the sky. Some reason that bothered me lol