At RCP Harris takes EC lead and now leads in PA

[acptulsa]

A: we are talking about the current campaign which AG pretends to believe Trump is throwing.

B: to have a stronger opponent walk all over you is not the same as allowing it.

We are not talking about any candidate in the current race, stop trying to confuse people.
We are talking about the entire deepstate that opposed him while he was in office and severely limited what he could accomplish, you are the one who tried to change the subject to that instead of this election.

The thread's about the current race. His record is relevant to the current race, both as to intent and as to ability. You said, "We are talking about the current campaign" to begin that statement. And you think it's me who is being confusing?

Do you ever read what you write?

 

[Swordsmyth]

The thread's about the current race. His record is relevant to the current race, both as to intent and as to ability. You said, "We are talking about the current campaign" to begin that statement. And you think it's me who is being confusing?

Do you ever read what you write?

Yes, you are the one who tried to change the subject back and forth to suit your twistings.
I said that Trump was not allowing anyone to walk all over him in this race, you tried to bring up the problems people caused him in his term in office even though that's not what we were talking about, so I explained how you were still being twisted and deceptive about that too, then I brought things back to the original subject of the race where nobody is walking all over him.

 

[acptulsa]

Yes, you are the one who tried to change the subject back and forth to suit your twistings.
I said that Trump was not allowing anyone to walk all over him in this race, you tried to bring up the problems people caused him in his term in office even though that's not what we were talking about, so I explained how you were still being twisted and deceptive about that too, then I brought things back to the original subject of the race where nobody is walking all over him.

No, I asked you how he was no longer a Democrat. If you responded by not answering the question, while not making it obvious that you were refusing to answer the question, that makes you the one obfuscating.

But, of course, you did answer the question, whether you realize it or not:

He's not allowing anyone to outplay him or walk all over him, that's what he's not.
What counts as a Demoncrat is constantly shifting left, but he's well outside of the current definition, more like some late 80s Democrats, and definitely to the right of many RINOs.

You do realize that his loyalties could well still lie with the DNC, even if it is no longer what he considers ideal, right? Or are we all relying on your ability to read his mind again?

In any case, what you said about him sure reads like the definition of RINO.

 

[CaptUSA]

If they thought they could steal it they wouldn't be trying to kill him.

You never heard of redundancies??

 

[Swordsmyth]

No, I asked you how he was no longer a Democrat. If you responded by not answering the question, while not making it obvious that you were refusing to answer the question, that makes you the one obfuscating.

LOL

It's all right here for everyone to see, you can't lie about it, but you try to anyway:

Can somebody please explain to me as to why Trump is allowing the Democrats to outplay him and walk all over him every step of the way?

He's not, and you know he's not.

Me: "he's not throwing the race" that's clearly what I was talking about, it's the main point of AG's post.

He was for sixty years.

How do you know he isn't? How do you know what AG knows? You have an awful lot of faith in your ESP, but considering how many of us have been lied to about what we know or what we're thinking, it's all humorous at this point.

He's not a Democrat because Democrats threw him out of the party the way you think you threw Miss Lindsay out of the GOP?

You: tries to change the subject to whether he's a D or not.

He's not allowing anyone to outplay him or walk all over him, that's what he's not.
What counts as a Demoncrat is constantly shifting left, but he's well outside of the current definition, more like some late 80s Democrats, and definitely to the right of many RINOs.

Me: points out what I actually was saying, then answers your attempt to change the subject.

Something something "veto proof" something.

He has footprints all over him. And an army of hypocrites making excuses for that.

You: tries to change the subject to Trump's time in office vs. the deepstate.

A: we are talking about the current campaign which AG pretends to believe Trump is throwing.

B: to have a stronger opponent walk all over you is not the same as allowing it.

Me: points out you are changing the subject and then points out you are being deceitful and manipulative about the new subject you changed to.

Stronger candidate? Stronger candidate?

Are we talking about Biden or Harris?

According to you, those footprints were left on him by people like Bolton, Pelosi and Fauci. And he had the power to fire two of the three at any time, and didn't.

You: tries to change the subject back in order to be deceitful and manipulative again but then also continues with the other subject you brought in and continues to be disingenuous about it.

We are not talking about any candidate in the current race, stop trying to confuse people.
We are talking about the entire deepstate that opposed him while he was in office and severely limited what he could accomplish, you are the one who tried to change the subject to that instead of this election.
He had limited power to fire the people who needed to be fired, both because of unconstitutional civil service laws and because of the political balance of power and the RINOs, and yet he did fire a number of people.
Bolton got absolutely nothing out of him, he gave him a powerless job and proceeded to ignore his ideas and humiliate him.
In this campaign nobody is walking all over him, and he certainly is not allowing it.

Me: straightens out the tangled mess you are trying to tangle the conversation in and continues to point out how wrong you are about all of it.

The thread's about the current race. His record is relevant to the current race, both as to intent and as to ability. You said, "We are talking about the current campaign" to begin that statement. And you think it's me who is being confusing?

Do you ever read what you write?

You: tries to gaslight about how you have been twisting the conversation in knots to try to score cheapshots. (but never successfully landing any because your spin is so weak)

Yes, you are the one who tried to change the subject back and forth to suit your twistings.
I said that Trump was not allowing anyone to walk all over him in this race, you tried to bring up the problems people caused him in his term in office even though that's not what we were talking about, so I explained how you were still being twisted and deceptive about that too, then I brought things back to the original subject of the race where nobody is walking all over him.

Me: straightens out what happened that everyone can see happened again.

You: tries to gaslight about it all in the post I quoted at the top.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You never heard of redundancies??

They didn't need them in 2020, and it's too dangerous to resort to unless they think he will beat the cheat this time, they could set off a revolution if they succeed, but they count that outcome as less bad than if he wins.

 

[acptulsa]

Dizzy yet?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Dizzy yet?

You'll never achieve that, no matter how hard you try to spin the conversation around.

 

[acptulsa]

You'll never achieve that, no matter how hard you try to spin the conversation around.

How hard I try to spin..?

Well, your basic point is certainly correct. Trying to make you dizzier than you already are would be like trying to make the Pacific flood by pissing in it.

 

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[TheTexan]

If they thought they could steal it they wouldn't be trying to kill him.

I don't think "they" are trying to kill him. If "they" wanted to kill him, he'd be dead. "They" aren't some amateur hour punks who's at their first rodeo.

Nah, I think the assassins so far are just incompetent weirdos who hate Trump. There is no shortage of those

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don't think "they" are trying to kill him. If "they" wanted to kill him, he'd be dead. "They" aren't some amateur hour punks who's at their first rodeo.

Nah, I think the assassins so far are just incompetent weirdos who hate Trump. There is no shortage of those

There is clear evidence of federal complicity in the events, and random nuts don't have chemical/laser/other DEW weapons.

 

[Swordsmyth]

 

[TheTexan]

There is clear evidence of federal complicity in the events, and random nuts don't have chemical/laser/other DEW weapons.

Have there been assassination attempts with chemical/laser/DEW stuff? I haven't seen that.

In any case, whatever "they" have tried, hasn't been a serious effort, because, well, Trump is still alive.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Have there been assassination attempts with chemical/laser/DEW stuff? I haven't seen that.

In any case, whatever "they" have tried, hasn't been a serious effort, because, well, Trump is still alive.

Failure doesn't prove a lack of seriousness.

[h=3]AZ - 20 people fall ill with possible chemical burns after attending Trump rally[/h]

 

[Swordsmyth]

 

[Swordsmyth]

 

[devil21]

Publicly released polls are designed to form public opinion, not report it.

It'll be neck-and-neck close to election day, then October surprise that tanks the election for the Al Smith Dinner loser.

That's probably crazy talk tho.....AI will report the fax.

 

[Anti Federalist]

A month later and Harris leads in PA by 0.7

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-harris

 

[CaptUSA]

A month later and Harris leads in PA by 0.7

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-harris

AF, the best way to look at these polls is the same way we look at the corporate press. "We see what you're doing and you are only steeling our resolve to fight against you!"

And it's not just the pollsters. The online algorithms are putting discouraging numbers in front of Trump supporters. Kinda makes me think that the steal is not a foregone conclusion.