As of 1/9/16, we don't make the cut.

[RecoveringNeoCon]

Need some good polling results from now until Monday evening to even have a chance at getting in.

http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/january-gop-debate-cutoff/

 

[CPUd]

Rand will be in the debate.

 

[Jan2017]

Don't recall seeing Christie that high nationally in polls done since his "zinger" at the last debate . . .



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[hells_unicorn]

This article doesn't mention whether or not the polls being cited are the ones that Fox Business plans to use, and if Paul doesn't make the main stage and opts to boycott the debates, I don't plan on watching. There is no point in wasting my time with an 11 person echo-chamber.

 

[Antwan15]

Rand will be in the debate.

I hope your right. I don't think he's getting in though. If done correctly, It could really help to be left out of the debate. I hope the campaign has a plan for what to do as an alternative. I would go nuclear on the media, nothing boosts support right now like attacking the media (see Trump, Cruz, ect). They are not kingmakers and should not be allowed to get away with this shit anymore.

 

[timosman]

I hope your right. I don't think he's getting in though. If done correctly, It could really help to be left out of the debate. I hope the campaign has a plan for what to do as an alternative. I would go nuclear on the media, nothing boosts support right now like attacking the media (see Trump, Cruz, ect). They are not kingmakers and should not be allowed to get away with this shit anymore.

Rand should go medieval on their asses.

 

[thatpeculiarcat]

Rand will be in the debate.

Optimism, hope, or do you know something we don't?

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

I hope your right. I don't think he's getting in though. If done correctly, It could really help to be left out of the debate. I hope the campaign has a plan for what to do as an alternative. I would go nuclear on the media, nothing boosts support right now like attacking the media (see Trump, Cruz, ect). They are not kingmakers and should not be allowed to get away with this shit anymore.

Get away with what? The fact that Paul doesn't poll higher or as high as Cruz or Trump is completely the fault of the media and not the campaign? Anyway, media railing or not, the moderators aren't going to roll over if Paul boycotts a debate he wouldn't qualify for. He's not a media magnet like Trump. The fact that Paul is calling for getting rid of the undercard debate when he's on the verge of being in that would seem petty in the media's eye. If he wanted the undercard debate gone, why not say that from the start? Why wait until he's on the bubble again?

 

[TheNewYorker]

Optimism, hope, or do you know something we don't?

CPUd has been right before...

 

[kbs021]

Get away with what? The fact that Paul doesn't poll higher or as high as Cruz or Trump is completely the fault of the media and not the campaign? Anyway, media railing or not, the moderators aren't going to roll over if Paul boycotts a debate he wouldn't qualify for. He's not a media magnet like Trump. The fact that Paul is calling for getting rid of the undercard debate when he's on the verge of being in that would seem petty in the media's eye. If he wanted the undercard debate gone, why not say that from the start? Why wait until he's on the bubble again?

Simple, the polls are drastically undercutting the youth vote/independent vote. The polls are not accurately portraying the electorate. Leaving Rand out of the debate despite being in 6th in Iowa, NH (despite the poor polling) and 7th nationally is absolutely incorrect. That is what they are getting away with. The campaign is doing their part in Iowa and NH. Best ground game in Iowa and pretty amazing in NH as well.

 

[CPUd]

Get away with what? The fact that Paul doesn't poll higher or as high as Cruz or Trump is completely the fault of the media and not the campaign? Anyway, media railing or not, the moderators aren't going to roll over if Paul boycotts a debate he wouldn't qualify for. He's not a media magnet like Trump. The fact that Paul is calling for getting rid of the undercard debate when he's on the verge of being in that would seem petty in the media's eye. If he wanted the undercard debate gone, why not say that from the start? Why wait until he's on the bubble again?

Rand is correct on this; having an undercard debate with just a few weeks left before people start voting, it would destroy those candidates. Doing it in the summer still gives those candidates a chance to improve enough to be on the main stage or ride it out until the field gets smaller and they can put everyone on the same stage.

 

[idiom]

Eschew the undercard debate.

Go up against Sanders on another channel same time, way higher ratings.

Cause a giant ruckus, and have an intellectual 1 vs 1 debate on the issues.

 

[derek4ever]

I see positive mo for rand! Debate schwabate! He makes it or not might seem to be important, believe it or not... All we need is to do well in both states, even if it's top 3 or top 4. I've been in touch with some acquaintances from ia and tried to sell my pitch for rand. Hope it works too, even if i can get 2 or 3 to caucus for rand, i'll be happy! Is there anyway the campaign hq in ia and nh has a list of possible converts? I'll even skype or facebook them if needed!

 

[Antwan15]

"Get away with what? The fact that Paul doesn't poll higher or as high as Cruz or Trump is completely the fault of the media and not the campaign? "

Never said anything close to that. Believe me, I have critiques on the campaign as well. Were not getting in the debate people, realize this now. My point is that this could be turned into a BIG WIN for us. Remember how pissed people got when Ron got left out of that NH debate in 2007, and that was 2007. Deep down, people want Rand in the debate, and would be sympathetic to his non participation. The narrative needs to be crafted correctly, and will boost his numbers and help raise money. I would give to a F the media mini money bomb.

"Anyway, media railing or not, the moderators aren't going to roll over if Paul boycotts a debate he wouldn't qualify for. He's not a media magnet like Trump. The fact that Paul is calling for getting rid of the undercard debate when he's on the verge of being in that would seem petty in the media's eye. If he wanted the undercard debate gone, why not say that from the start? Why wait until he's on the bubble again?"

No, they will just ignore like they always do. Your right there. So Rand needs to take the fight to them, call out names if you have to. Trump does. Have a PAC run ads off it. Raise money. Make it net positive. I know it can be done.

 

[Schifference]

I think the debates should be done differently. I think they should put all candidates in sound proof rooms and ask each candidate the identical questions. Don't interrupt or put any time limit on any answer. Allow the same amount of time for each candidate. Let's say 7 minutes. If one candidate chooses to digress and spend his entire time on the first question let them do it. If another chooses to answer each question concisely and answer all questions okay. After each candidate gets his/her 7 minutes bring them all onstage, allow them, to view all responses and give time to debate their answers.

 

[squirl22]

CPUd is always right. (MrNoSmile, do you ever smile? Why play the blame game.) It's the polling....those things are always rigged. Plus the media black out is for real. After the last debate, when Rand literally won the debate (even sauerkraut thought so), the media basically did not talk about him. Kelly Paul mentions this in one of her interviews; how she wanted to throw something at the tv because they were talking about everyone but him and he had been the shining star. This is how they, the media, manipulate the viewers. In spite of people saying they hate the media and the media is biased, they are still directly impacted by it. Maybe it is unconscious but then of course most people are unconscious most of the time. Notice, they then give Rand all of these interviews but only after the initial impact has faded and they have convinced the viewers that he is really not even worth talking about. They did the same thing with Ron. He got tons of interviews when it didn't count and they had already degraded his viability. Same old same old and it seems that most people never figure it out.

 

[Dianne]

Don't recall seeing Christie that high nationally in polls done since his "zinger" at the last debate . . .



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Christie is over inflated.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

CPUd is always right. (MrNoSmile, do you ever smile? Why play the blame game.) It's the polling....those things are always rigged. Plus the media black out is for real. After the last debate, when Rand literally won the debate (even sauerkraut thought so), the media basically did not talk about him. Kelly Paul mentions this in one of her interviews; how she wanted to throw something at the tv because they were talking about everyone but him and he had been the shining star. This is how they, the media, manipulate the viewers. In spite of people saying they hate the media and the media is biased, they are still directly impacted by it. Maybe it is unconscious but then of course most people are unconscious most of the time. Notice, they then give Rand all of these interviews but only after the initial impact has faded and they have convinced the viewers that he is really not even worth talking about. They did the same thing with Ron. He got tons of interviews when it didn't count and they had already degraded his viability. Same old same old and it seems that most people never figure it out.

Well said

 

[francisco]

Christie is over inflated.

hahaha

 

[thoughtomator]

Eschew the undercard debate.

Go up against Sanders on another channel same time, way higher ratings.

Cause a giant ruckus, and have an intellectual 1 vs 1 debate on the issues.

I've been saying this from the beginning - Rand should do a Lincoln-Douglas style debate schedule with Sanders, it would be far more interesting and substantive than the sound-bite competitions that pass for debates these days.