Arrested And Deported For Exercising First Amendment Rights?

[familydog]

1) Certainly they have rights, including due process. Can non-citizens be accused of murder, taken to the nearest tree, and hung without due process?

2) For legal visas, if they violated the terms and conditions, then they should be deported. But specifically in this situation, she is being deported for opposing the Israeli government.

3) Come on, man! (Read in Joe Biden voice).



Exactly. And there is a process. In general, when there is reasonable and probable cause that people are in the nation illegally, they are detained. They are released when they show evidence that they are legal. It can happen in 10 seconds by showing a valid ID, or it may take a day or two to provide evidence. If not, then they are in line for deportation. This is not hypothetical. This is from recent incidents locally.

In the unlikely case that an American citizen is deported, they can return as soon as they show evidence that they can legally enter.

Fine. I'll grant you they need due process...they can be processed right out of the country in an orderly manner.

It's not like these people are bleeding heart patriots for Heritage America. If it takes the excuse of being anti-Israel to get them out, then so be it.

 

[acptulsa]

Well, you see. We have these magical things called computers that have this technology called the internet. The overpaid workers there can type in some words on a keyboard to find this information out.

Because libertarians are supposed to love the idea of kidnapping citizens and shipping them halfway around the world before asking their name, processing them properly, and -- what? Making taxpayers pay again to ship them back? Making them pay their own way back?

You figure it'll help the airlines out? This the Alt Right Broken Window Fallacy for Boeing's benefit?

 

[familydog]

Because libertarians are supposed to love the idea of kidnapping citizens and shipping them halfway around the world before asking their name, processing them properly, and -- what? Making taxpayers pay again to ship them back? Making them pay their own way back?

You figure it'll help the airlines out? This the Alt Right Broken Window Fallacy for Boeing's benefit?

Your ridiculous, hyperbolic and ad hominem responses do not merit any more replies.

 

[acptulsa]

Your ridiculous, hyperbolic and ad hominem responses do not merit any more replies.

It's possible to sort them out before shipping them out. Possible and desirable. Denying due process because if they really are who they're accused of being they don't deserve it is the mentality lynch mobs are made of.

 

[Invisible Man]

Well, you see. We have these magical things called computers that have this technology called the internet. The overpaid workers there can type in some words on a keyboard to find this information out.

Interesting. So all a noncitizen needs to do then is give the overpaid worker the name of an American citizen for them to type into their computer.

I am surprised that you consider that acceptable.

 

[acptulsa]

I am surprised that you consider that acceptable.

You'll notice it's only acceptable in an embassy on foreign soil.

Here in the U.S. it might be considered giving someone who may or may not be the citizen they claim to be the dreaded due process before we go to the trouble and expense of deporting them.

 

[PAF]

 

[Swordsmyth]

And we have the right to deport them for any or no reason, especially when they commit crimes.

 

[PAF]

And we have the right to deport them for any or no reason, especially when they commit crimes.

Obama: "If you see something, say something."

You are so far off the deep end that I can't even begin to wrap my head around your illogical hatred.

The Bill of Rights applies to all people. If person is in this country and has committed no crime, there is no ground to violate their 4th Amendment right [papers-please warrantless search], let alone their 1st Amendment, in order to do anything with them.

The United States of Tyranny: America Is Becoming a Constitution-Free Zone​

 

[Swordsmyth]

Obama: "If you see something, say something."

You are so far off the deep end that I can't even begin to wrap my head around your illogical hatred.

The Bill of Rights applies to all people. If person is in this country and has committed no crime, there is no ground to violate their 4th Amendment right [papers-please warrantless search], let alone their 1st Amendment, in order to do anything with them.

The United States of Tyranny: America Is Becoming a Constitution-Free Zone​

Foreigners have no right to be here, they have no right to agitate for foreign causes here, they have been committing crimes which they certainly don't have a right to do.

They are guests and we not only can but should eject them for bad behavior.

You are a globalist who is siding with criminals seeking to destroy America.

 

[Swordsmyth]

And I repeat, whoever is misleading Ron about the facts is an enemy and committing Elder Abuse.

 

[PAF]

And I repeat, whoever is misleading Ron about the facts is an enemy and committing Elder Abuse.

YOU are seeking to destroy America by shredding each and every Bill of Right in the Constitution. YOU are the globalist by working overtime to emulate other countries; ie: Israel and their Unit 8200.

 

[Swordsmyth]

YOU are seeking to destroy America by shredding each and every Bill of Right in the Constitution. YOU are the globalist by working overtime to emulate other countries; ie: Israel and their Unit 8200.

Utter garbage, you are seeking to flood America with 3rd world trash who hate liberty.
You lie and claim to support liberty but you do everything you can to destroy it.
And when you are less behind your cover you show your disdain for the very Constitution you pretend to care about.

 

[PAF]

Utter garbage, you are seeking to flood America with 3rd world trash who hate liberty.
You lie and claim to support liberty but you do everything you can to destroy it.
And when you are less behind your cover you show your disdain for the very Constitution you pretend to care about.

I have noticed one thing about you, BOT; any support or reference to of any one of the Bill of Rights, you immediately resort to calling person a globalist. YOU and your ilk are seeking to destroy this country from the inside.

If you hate the Bill of Rights so much, why don't you just go live in Israel with Miriam and Netanyahu where you'll be in your caged in paradise. I'm sure they'll give you a free necktie too.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I have noticed one thing about you, BOT; any support or reference to of any one of the Bill of Rights, you immediately resort to calling person a globalist. YOU and your ilk are seeking to destroy this country from the inside.

If you hate the Bill of Rights so much, why don't you just go live in Israel with Miriam and Netanyahu where you'll be in your caged in paradise. I'm sure they'll give you a free necktie too.

Absolute balderdash, you are the one trying to flood the country with hostile foreign trash that hate the BoR (as you hate it).
The BoR doesn't contain a right for foreigners to come here, let alone a right for them to commit crimes.

You hate the Constitution, you hate Americans, you hate America, and you seek the destruction of all of them in favor of globalism.

 

[PAF]

Absolute balderdash, you are the one trying to flood the country with hostile foreign trash that hate the BoR (as you hate it).
The BoR doesn't contain a right for foreigners to come here, let alone a right for them to commit crimes.

You hate the Constitution, you hate Americans, you hate America, and you seek the destruction of all of them in favor of globalism.

I don't know any foreigner, not a single one, who hates and despises the Bill of Rights as much as you.

Over and out. BOT.

 

[familydog]

Interesting. So all a noncitizen needs to do then is give the overpaid worker the name of an American citizen for them to type into their computer.

I am surprised that you consider that acceptable.

Yep. That's exactly what I said. You got me there.

 

[Voluntarist]

The Bill of Rights applies to all people. If person is in this country and has committed no crime, there is no ground to violate their 4th Amendment right [papers-please warrantless search], let alone their 1st Amendment, in order to do anything with them.

The United States of Tyranny: America Is Becoming a Constitution-Free Zone

Justice Department Memo Claims Alien Enemies Act Allows Warrantless Home Searches and No Judicial Review

Newly uncovered guidance from the Justice Department claims the Alien Enemies Act (AEA) allows federal law enforcement officers to enter the houses of suspected gang members without a warrant and remove them from the country without any judicial review.

In a March 14 memorandum, obtained by the open government group Property of the People through a public records request and first reported by USA Today, Attorney General Pam Bondi instructs federal law enforcement officers on how to carry out arrests on members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua (TDA), which President Donald Trump has declared are "alien enemies" under the AEA.

 

[PAF]

Justice Department Memo Claims Alien Enemies Act Allows Warrantless Home Searches and No Judicial Review

“The home under all constitutional law is the most sacred place where you have a right to privacy,” Sherman said. “By this standard, spurious allegations of gang affiliation means the government can knock down your door.” [emphasis mine]

“I would anticipate this will be challenged in court,” Bush-Joseph said. “It would be a departure from the law. It would allow searches of homes without warrants.”


Full article:

Exclusive: DOJ memo offers blueprint to Tren de Aragua deportation plan

Trump administration officials directed police to circumvent courts and pursue gang members into their homes without a warrant, a new document shows.

www.usatoday.com

 

[CCTelander]

Justice Department Memo Claims Alien Enemies Act Allows Warrantless Home Searches and No Judicial Review

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Bout I was told that the rights of Americans were not endangered by all this.