Armed Neighborhood Fortress called Citadel

[Romulus]

You don't own property, you lease it from the 'owners'.

What was that project that Zietgeist was pushing? Free jetski's?

 

[TomtheTinker]

The name "III Citadel" came into the limelight last weekend, when The Drudge Report posted a prominent link to a CNS article by Gregory Gwyn-Williams, Jr.. In a nutshell, a man identifying himself as "Sam III" who is somehow loosely associated with III Arms (a legitimate company, in West Virginia) started a patriot community building project, somewhere east of St. Maries, Idaho. When I first heard about it in November, I made just one short and noncommittal "this sounds interesting" mention in my blog. (A post which I just removed.) Two days ago I was quite troubled to learn that the main promoter of Citadel III is a convicted felon. (That, according to the SipseyStreetIrregulars blog.) In the III Citadel web page and blog, Mr. Hyman /Sam Kerodin / Christian Kerodin / Sam Kerillion / Sam Hellesponte / Sam III / Nom Du Jour seems to imply that I've somehow endorsed his venture or that what they are doing fits in with my American Redoubt concept. I haven't endorsed it, and he is not my buddy. To the best of my knowledge I've never met, spoken or corresponded with the man. For some background, see: "Citadel." Convicted extortionist's latest con gets huge play on Drudge. and, Three-letter frog in Kerodin's pocket? Anecdotes of the Kerodin career. A convicted extortionist. Turns out his real name is Christian Hyman. Again, I have nothing to do with Mr. Hyman. My only nexus to him is that he chose a piece of land that is in one of the states that I recommend for relocation. He has apparently tried to capitalize on my name. According to the SipseyStreetIrregulars blog, Mr. Hyman "persuades folks to invest" in the project. My advice: Beware of III Citadel! In closing, I should point out that III Arms is a separate entity and to the best of my knowledge they are a legitimate and reputable company. - J.W.R.

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[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Turns out his real name is Christian Hyman.

rofl. Is he broke? Married first?

 

[acptulsa]

Anyone else remember Granny Warrior's proposed nirvana in one of the driest regions of West Texas?

 

[Keith and stuff]

Anyone else remember Granny Warrior's proposed nirvana in one of the driest regions of West Texas?

I remember when the Free Town Project was looking at rural West Texas before it decided on Grafton, New Hampshire. I'm not sure if these are related. Please tell me more about this failed desert project.

 

[cheapseats]

Speaking of divisions within the Liberty Moovement, there are those who are hunkering down for the next election and the next and the next election, and there are those who have recognized/accepted the futility of electoral politics unless/untill something ELSE gives...who are hunkering down to be IMPACTED AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE by Officialdom.

Life is short, and "time flies" really fast.

Speaking of COMPROMISE, I will grant that maybe electoral politics fall under IT'S DIRTY WORK BUT SOMEONE'S GOTTA DO IT. It can only persuasively be argued as a Lesser Evil from the AVOIDANCE OF BLOODSHED perspective, however.

Whether this maybe-creepy-and-kinda-posh rendition is psy-op or mercenary or impractical doesn't change that Intentional Communities DO present the possibility for superior quality of life for whatever REMAINS of, let's face it, BRIEF lives.

 

[libertariantexas]

Sounds like these people will be ready for the Zombie Apocalypse.

 

[adisongrace]

I like the idea of a citadel. I also do not see a conflict with those who are
"chosen" to live there. If you don't like the rules...don't live there.

 

[pcosmar]

I like the idea of a citadel. I also do not see a conflict with those who are
"chosen" to live there. If you don't like the rules...don't live there.

I don't and I won't.
I like the Idea of an armed population and community militia.
I think our Founders were on to something there.

 

[XTreat]

Read the agreement you must sign to become a member, a bit too draconian for me.

 

[adisongrace]

I don't and I won't.
I like the Idea of an armed population and community militia.
I think our Founders were on to something there.

Agreed.

I think the idea is sound. There are flaws with the citadel, and those should be purged.
I like the sound of a compound that focuses on liberty.

 

[reardenstone]

I don't like the idea of "one person" or business controlling the investment and planning. A far better solution would be a group committee act that would hold each member responsible for decisions and financial tracking. The story about the mastermind behind Ciii being a convicted extortionists makes me worry that this could be another scheme to seperate suckers from their money -- or it could be an elaborate false flag setup by agents who use an ex-con to sell a controlled opposition compound.

Any besides, cooperatism is a libertarian friendly form of collectivism that has multiple levels of fail-safe control. I can't speak for the FSP but it seems that it runs socially and not from a top down position. Perhaps the FSP should bring every FS'er together, agree on a contribution amount, collect some money and buy land and then plan for an intentional community with it's own safe-zone border.