Armed Neighborhood Fortress called Citadel

[idiom]

I wonder if the ethnic composition will reflect 'pride' and 'exceptionalism'...

 

[jdcole]

What About Racial Diversity?
Rightful Liberty knows no racial barriers. We care not from which part of the globe you or your ancestors originated. We care only that you adhere to the Patriot Agreement.

What About Religion?
Rightful Liberty knows no religious barriers.
Space will be limited within the walls of the Citadel for building houses of worship. There will be plenty of space outside the walls.

Are You a Bunch of Wackos/Cultists/Racists... etc.?
Actually, quite the opposite. Rightful Liberty is a very tolerant, live and let live philosophy. We stand fully against extremists and all prejudicial philosophies. Those types of people would not be comfortable around us.

What is Jefferson's Rightful Liberty
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others." ~ Thomas Jefferson

 

[PaulConventionWV]

There's a reason we stopped building castles 500 years ago.

Why is that?

 

[gerryb1]

Why is that?

cannons

 

[Demigod]

cannons

There were fortresses up until after WW II.They were not the movie "design" with tall walls and gates though.Sevastopol is a good example of a city fortress.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

And some fortresses are built deep, so there are bunker busters, etc...

 

[compromise]

What About Racial Diversity?
Rightful Liberty knows no racial barriers. We care not from which part of the globe you or your ancestors originated. We care only that you adhere to the Patriot Agreement.

What About Religion?
Rightful Liberty knows no religious barriers.
Space will be limited within the walls of the Citadel for building houses of worship. There will be plenty of space outside the walls.

Are You a Bunch of Wackos/Cultists/Racists... etc.?
Actually, quite the opposite. Rightful Liberty is a very tolerant, live and let live philosophy. We stand fully against extremists and all prejudicial philosophies. Those types of people would not be comfortable around us.

What is Jefferson's Rightful Liberty
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Sounds pretty good to me. I don't think it will work out too well though. Locking yourself in a "citadel" makes trade pretty difficult.

 

[cheapseats]

Locking yourself in a "citadel" makes trade pretty difficult.

Business boomed in the Green Zone throughout the ill-conceived, ill-executed Iraq War...and supplies always make it into the sprawling embassy "we" built there (largest and most expensive ever built, anywhere, by anyone, in the history of diplomacy).

 

[Aeroneous]

Business boomed in the Green Zone throughout the ill-conceived, ill-executed Iraq War...and supplies always make it into the sprawling embassy "we" built there (largest and most expensive ever built, anywhere, by anyone, in the history of diplomacy).

I think the big difference here is that the embassy you mentioned was supplied by the government, whereas this citadel won't have such a tremendous organization backing it logistically.

I'm sure they can figure out a way, though. I get the impression that they're hoping to be completely self sufficient.

 

[cheapseats]

It will be called a compound as soon as they get their grimy little hands on the thing.

Sounds like a compound to me. So WHAT?

Rather than allow the word COMPOUND to imply wrong/illegal/dangerous, OWN IT. I draw attention to the preponderance of GATED COMMUNITIES among the Wealthy. Ask whether Limousine Liberals & Scaredy Cats would FEEL more comfortable if this is called a WALLED COMMUNITY. Ask what IS the difference between a Gated Community and a Walled Community. GUNS, they will accuse. MEDIAN INCOME, accuse right back.

 

[cheapseats]

I think the big difference here is that the embassy you mentioned was supplied by the government, whereas this citadel won't have such a tremendous organization backing it logistically.

I'm sure they can figure out a way, though. I get the impression that they're hoping to be completely self sufficient.

Government has failed utterly, spectacularly and steadily FAILED, to keep drugs from Druggies.

 

[tod evans]

Sounds pretty good to me. I don't think it will work out too well though. Locking yourself in a "citadel" makes trade pretty difficult.

I would hope the purpose of "locking ones self in" would be to effectively avoid such things as the state and federal "Just-Us" system...

Emissaries could of course venture into the "wild" in order to deal with the rest of the country..

I could see such a place as a net positive until the government decides they're using too many pain-killers or too much gun powder....It's almost certain that "inspectors" would be sent to assure the safety of those involved...

 

[cheapseats]

I think the big difference here is that the embassy you mentioned was supplied by the government, whereas this citadel won't have such a tremendous organization backing it logistically.

On the other hand, "our" government supplies were getting through a real-time WAR ZONE.

Granted, our government can make a war zone here...just like they made a war zone there...but they don't WANT a stateside war zone.

 

[cheapseats]

I'm not sure exactly what the point of the walls are.

I'm sure they can figure out a way, though. I get the impression that they're hoping to be completely self sufficient.

Emissaries could of course venture into the "wild" in order to deal with the rest of the country..

Maybe only as self-sufficient as the Amish...with their are-you-effing-kidding-me AMISH MAFIA "reality teevee" show.

 

[Aeroneous]

Government has failed utterly, spectacularly and steadily FAILED, to keep drugs from Druggies.

On the other hand, "our" government supplies were getting through a real-time WAR ZONE.

Granted, our government can make a war zone here...just like they made a war zone there...but they don't WANT a stateside war zone.

Valid points. All I was saying is that the government was pushing supplies to the embassy, whereas this citadel won't have a major logistics supplier working so diligently to get things to them. The government won't be able to prevent supplies getting there, but I bet they won't be very enthusiastic about helping them get there.

 

[itshappening]

Can we rename it Paulville?

 

[cheapseats]

There's a reason we stopped building castles 500 years ago.

America was never castle-happy. EUROPE, on the other hand...

"Modern" Aristocrats can and do complain about the energy, upkeep, insurance AND TAX expenses associated with castles, but imagine BUILDING castles without slave labor. MANSIONS will have to do, if labor must be PAID.

 

[Victor Grey]

"intends to purchase 2,000 to 3,000 acres"

"community will comprise of 3,500 to 7,000 families"

Sounds cramped.

Edit: 3000 acres for ~5000 families. Families, not individual people. Housing area, roadways, utilities deducted from that amount.
Businesses, and other structures. Defensive structures more area taken.

Fortress doesn't work if it starves in 2 weeks. No different than any other city.

 

[matt0611]

Sounds awesome to me.

 

[cheapseats]

I wonder if the ethnic composition will reflect 'pride' and 'exceptionalism'...

Pride in American Exceptionalism
I'm out without reading farther..............

More like, I'm NOT IN.

THAT Intentional Community doesn't sound right for ME. But it sounds FINE + NONE OF MY BEESWAX for people with whom it DOES resonate.

China Town, Little Tokyo, Little ETHIOPIA, to name but three ethnic concentrations in Los Angeles that get NO grief from PeeCee Police. Armenians go to Glendale. (Rich) Persians & (rich) Jews both favor Beverly Hills. Bel-Air has BIG GATES.

Take a gander at how "public" streets in LAFAYETTE PARK in Los Angeles, with "old world" mansions now (sadly) bordering a dodgy DARK-COMPLECTED 'hood, are simply gated to thru-traffic. Carthay Circle and West Hollywood use cement blockades to inhibit thru-traffic AND OUTSIDERS on roads paved and maintained with taxpayer funds.