Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

[Origanalist]

The feds didn't back down because of fear of getting shot, they backed down because a bloodbath in the desert over a few cows eating grass would have turned horrible bad for them and could have seen congressional action to curtail the feds power over land management. That is what they fear.

Would they have had to fear that with a crowd of protesters armed with flowers?

 

[Carson]

Apparently the solar plan made by Harry Reid was cancelled years ago and wasn't even on the Bundy Ranch.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/12/1291433/-Right-wing-media-overtly-stoking-violence-in-Nevada

I find it hard to believe that the solar company mentioned was the only company to work in Nevada somehow connected to Reid. Also, I love how Kos is slamming the "Right-Wing web" yet they think it's ok to trust a leftist website like their's.

I heard before this came off that the power plant proposed was 200 miles south of somewhere and the ranch is 200 miles north.

I also heard that 1000'S of ranchers are getting along with the BLM.

Maybe that is kind of part of the beauty of what happened. Enough people are hearing about the little guys being forced out for reasons that usually have less merit than the support spins merit. So perhaps even with everyone being somewhat misguided, people are willing to come the the aid of a fellow American.


I made a comment;

Don't forget. As long as they can fire up the fake money presses and print up what ever it takes to get their way, we walk on eggshells.

And a Patriot responded with this;

no eggshells here.
more like time to form "Liberty response teams"
this game is NOT over, by a longshot.
and now I understand the meaning of the term "Minutemen"

Or I should say a MINUTEMAN responded.

Maybe this will be a growing trend!

 

[youngbuck]

For what it's worth. This could all be BS, but stay vigilant:

http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=877

I agree, stay vigilant, but Steve Quayle dispenses extremely unreliable, the-sky-is-falling type information on a regular basis. He's continually claiming to be privy to confidential information from the inner circles of government and elsewhere, yet nothing ever comes to fruition or unfolds how he authoritatively asserts.

 

[klamath]

Would they have had to fear that with a crowd of protesters armed with flowers?

Yep if the crowd would have impeded their actions to steal the cattle forcing them to use brutal force against the protesters would not have worked for them as well. Do you really believe they couldn't have brought overwhelming firepower and won? They sure as hell had that option but they knew they would have lost the propaganda war which would have lost them great power.
The fact that there was guns on both side only made the possibility of a faster, larger bloodbath more likely, again making them lose the propaganda war.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

 

[Red Green]

I watched Meet the Press and Faux News Sunday this morning and not a peep about the standoff. MSM blackout? They don't want to announce that the emperor has no clothes?

 

[Carlybee]

Libtard comment I saw on a Bundy support page on Facebook:

They should have taken out every member of the family and every person stupid enough to back this idiot. He knows he is not on his land and has no rights there. This ignorant bastard has inflamed a bunch of radical fools to back his illegal play. I hope he ends up losing every thing including his life.

 

[pcosmar]

Yep if the crowd would have impeded their actions to steal the cattle forcing them to use brutal force against the protesters would not have worked for them as well. Do you really believe they couldn't have brought overwhelming firepower and won?

Yes.. I believe that.

I believe that they found their sniper nests (Observation posts) filled with Cow shit. And knew those positions were compromised and targeted.

I believe that they could see the reflection of scopes in the hills surrounding them

I believe the Highway patrol report (that I heard) that verified 200 rifles trained on them.

I believe that if they had started shooting at the peaceful protesters,, they would have been cut to ribbons in seconds..

And their starting it would have been recorded.

I also believe the all the resources of the US and Russia have not been able to "win" in Afghanistan.

They would have no better success in Nevada.

 

[AuH20]

BLM is pissed:

 

[AuH20]

If that BLM agent wants us to change the courts, but unfortunately I don't have billions of dollars lying around. It's such a copout. Secondly, Article 1 Sec 8 Clause 17 states that Cliven Bundy is in the right.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/a1_8_17.html

 

[AuH20]

 

[ghengis86]

Here's my one thought after all of this: the Feds 'lost' this battle for one simple reason. The Internetz. Facebook, Twitter, RPFs, numerous other forums, e-mails, etc were used to get this story out. There was an MSM blackout for a reason. And it continues.

Before there can be a 'next time' they will figure out a way to blackout the decentralized distribution of information so they Minutemen can't be scrambled quickly or effectively. The next battle will be over the virtual landscape before they try it in the physical world. That you can bet on.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Here's my one thought after all of this: the Feds 'lost' this battle for one simple reason. The Internetz. Facebook, Twitter, RPFs, numerous other forums, e-mails, etc were used to get this story out. There was an MSM blackout for a reason. And it continues.

Before there can be a 'next time' they will figure out a way to blackout the decentralized distribution of information so they Minutemen can't be scrambled quickly or effectively. The next battle will be over the virtual landscape before they try it in the physical world. That you can bet on.

Now see, I don't get MSM at all so I don't see the blackout. I've talked to people about this and they didn't even know it was going on, which confused me at first, but it quickly made sense. I am guessing the M$M is scarcely carrying anything about this at all?

 

[JK/SEA]

MSM blacks themselves out....fuck em..

 

[GunnyFreedom]

BLM is pissed:

@6:00 actually, yes, legal decisions ARE made 'at the surface.' They are made by everybody who has sworn the Oath. This requires you to not do anything that you, personally, believe is in violation of the Constitution. This is why the Constitution itself requires the Oath of office. It is the last, and best defense of Constitutional government, and the brainwash this BLM man has suffered and is trying to express is distressing. "Of course it's Constitutional!! I AM TEH GOOBEMINT!"

This part is important. Everybody who swears the Oath, swears to first and above all, to not do whatever abrogates the Constitution, no matter what someone higher on the food chain may have once said about the matter.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Libtard comment I saw on a Bundy support page on Facebook:

Perfect. I only wish he had added "And I voted for OBAMA!"

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Has anyone seen any footage from Santilli of the final showdown? He was charging his camera with it pointed at traffic, then a few minutes of it repeated over and over while the final showdown and release of the cattle was happening. People viewing his live stream were getting pissed that he didn't stream what was happening live.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Has anyone seen any footage from Santilli of the final showdown? He was charging his camera with it pointed at traffic, then a few minutes of it repeated over and over while the final showdown and release of the cattle was happening. People viewing his live stream were getting pissed that he didn't stream what was happening live.

Yeah, you win and lose. AJ had it live for those who wanted it. Santilli got into this BLM guy though and got him to say some pretty next-level stuff for a (partially hidden?) microphone. That was before they backed off, April 10 I believe. This will make the case all the more damning if DHS returns in force.

Obama has to be freaking out right now. He is President and you have an armed freaking uprising of Americans...

 

[Tod]

Has anyone seen any footage from Santilli of the final showdown? He was charging his camera with it pointed at traffic, then a few minutes of it repeated over and over while the final showdown and release of the cattle was happening. People viewing his live stream were getting pissed that he didn't stream what was happening live.

That was the last I saw too. I think he made technical errors regarding battery changing/charging/life and filming location and missed the story.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Obama either has to acknowledge that RKBA has accomplished what the Framers intended, or somehow brand the Bundy uprising as unlawful, regardless of his response. If he chooses to brand the uprising as unlawful, then he will be politically forced to respond in some way. Enter the DHS and domestic terror units. Cooperating with the NSA to identify and locate patriots in the region. Or maybe something less overt, but in either case expect a "message" of some kind to come down from the Powers that be in the near future.