Arizona Latinos Lose Their Cool While the Cameras Roll

If congress gave the President the power then there would be almost no reason to have the PCA. Since it was repealed in 2008 it is illegal for troops to help any law enforcement unless it was one of the exclusions.
 
When jobs are a plenty and nobody "lives off the government", only racists would have a concern about immigration.

Yep, jobs and supply and demand of labor is a major concern. If you eliminate that issue, racists might still have a concern about immigration. But also xenophobes. And some environmentalists. And Malthusians. And people who suffer from demophobia, metathesiophobia, enochlophobia, ochlophobia, macrophobia or hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia.

Yes the Latins voted for Obama and the whites voted for McCain. What is your point?

And those that are a mix voted for Bob Barr? ;)
 
Why is it that the Cuban population in Florida is so orderly and upstanding whereas we see riots out West?

You cannot really compare Cubans with the Mexicans. Cubans are cut from a wholly different cloth. I would say the upper class Mexicans are similar. Not all hispanic people are the same. I can tell a Cuban from a Puerto Rican from Brazillian from Dominican from... They are pretty distinct. The low-class Mexican culture is utter shit like any ghetto culture is, whether black, white, or what have you. That is mainly what comes across the border and that is what people object to here and I do not blame them.
 
Exactly. Our president invited them to come. They aren't here illegally.

I don't think that has much of anything to do with it. Cubans are conservative by nature and they LOVE the USA. They are industrious, well educated (generally), and do not have nearly the cultural degeneracy of the Mexicans. Mexicans take the macho thing to the point of laughable stupidity. They are, for the most part, a bunch of yahoo idiots whose egos are so frail that they are compelled to live their entire lives trying to prove to the world how tough they are. It is pathetic. Anyone recall a 60 Minutes deal on MX gangs in LA, maybe ca. 1987? Stupid kid about 14 shows off his pistola to the cameramen and then unceremoniously shoots himself, then walks around saying "oh chit... I thin I chot myselp", trying to look all manly about it. They are imbeciles and the Cubans are not. It is as simple as that. It is the difference in the cultures, which in this case constitutes a yawning chasm.
 
You can't blame the illegals for being unhappy. Government has not enforced the immigration law in nearly 20 years and now suddenly Government decides to crack down. Some of these illegals have been working in the United States for over 20 years. Illegals who have worked in the US for over 6 years should be legalized.

No. You boot their manky asses across the border, make them stay there at least 2 years and then you allow them to apply for a work visa. If after 9 years they don't go to jail, remain gainfully employed, and keep their grubby mitts off the government tit, they they may apply for citizenship. This is the way it used to be done and it worked rather well.
 
If the police pull over a drunk who can't speak English, then they should have the right to check out his citizenship status. It's no different than checking for outstanding warrants.

Not really. What if the guy is Polish, just became a citizen, but still speaks English poorly? It isn't right to ask people for their papers and it is a violation of the 4th Amendment. People really DO have the right to secure in their effects etc. All people. If we accept exceptions for one group, we have accepted them for any and all in principle.

If there is probable cause, that is different. Get a warrant and execute it. That is the way things are supposed to be done here.
 
If the police pull over a drunk who can't speak English, then they should have the right to check out his citizenship status.

Agreed. If we have a new Polish citizen who can't converse in basic English (probable cause of illegal entry), our new American should be accompanied by a companion who can converse in basic English, carry his papers on his person until he can speak conversational English, or face the possibility of being detained to sort out the confusion. The key is "conversational English" which the overwhelming majority of Americans will pass in flying colors without the need for any documentation whatsoever.
 
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You're right, though, on one thing. As long as this board has a few choice people who talk about entire groups as being "beyond help" and "responsible for all the ills," the few of us who fit the description will wonder what the fuck we're doing here, and anyone else who sees themselves dismissed might wonder if it's worth donating time or money to any of these efforts at all.
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